I will start by pointing out that there were a number of us who were not only responsible for the banner but stand by what was written on it.

The facts are that this squad of players is easily the best we have ever had. Look at Birmingham, Fulham, Stoke and Blackburn and tell me they have better players than us. We find ourselves up to 12 points behind some of them and unable to record a single victory against any of them (For the record I have paid good money to see all seven games). We have conceeded eight more goals (with pretty much the same back five as under Bruce) than we did in the whole of last season and there are still ten games to go. The facts are that under Martinez we are unable to defend even though he sets us up with one up top and at least one holding midfielder. Apart from a wonder goal from Scharner against Stoke the performances offensivley against Bolton, Stoke and Spurs (to name a few recent ones)were just inept.

I take foolsgold point, but no-one supports the players as much as I do. It is the managers inability to see what is happening and his ineptness to make decisions to impact on the game that brings me to the decision that he is just not up to the job. Numerous times this season he has just changed players like for like when a change in the system was required.

Tini, for the record I had not left and neither had any of the people I was with. We all clapped the players off which was fully deserved.

As for James C, I have been watching Wigan Athletic for 33 years. I remember players like Noel Ward, Peter Houghton, Joe Hinnigan and Colin Methven to name a few. I have been to Brighton, Bournmouth, Torquay, Barnet and Aldershot amongst other remote parts of the UK. I wont even get started on pre season trips to Holland.

Loudmouthblue points out the facts and they are alarming to say the least. Theres no point bleating on about beating Chelsea and Liverpool (Both of who never turned up) and then getting rolled over 4-0 at Portsmouth etc…etc…

As for standish walkerman you will be delighted to know I am sure that I have played semi pro and used to get paid for turning out half baked on a Saturday. I know ex-pros both in business and personally who I know share our views on Martinez. If you think this squad of players is good enough to fight out relegation along with Hull and Wolves then I am afraid it is you that is the idiot. And what is Xenophobic? It sounds like a playstation game that you clearly spend all your pocket money on.

Finally,I must point out that I love Wigan Athletic. I have never booed them and would NOT condone anyone who did.