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Yeah very sustainable, That’s why we can’t pay transfer fee’s for anyone and keep selling any player on any kind od decent wage. All those hundreds of millions that were made and now all of a sudden wages can no longer be paid.
:- I said Dave Whelan would walk if Latics weren’t promoted within the parachute payments and every asset will be sold – I was right
:- I said the club would end up in a far worse state than when he arrived, it’s starting to look as if i am right.
:- When it becomes obvious that David Sharpe can’t get the club back Granddad will tell him to take what he can and walk
:- Wigan Athletic will eventually get to the stage where they can’t afford the rent and will eventually get kicked out of the stadium. Anyone who thinks this isn’t possible because Uncle Dave said they will always play there, long term lease etc blah blah. He has never screwed any business over that doesn’t turn a profit has he?
:- Ground sharing at Leigh Sports Village looking forward to local derbies with FC United and Stockport.
I presume you’re fishing Yosser, but I’ll humour you and bite:
- Yes is it very sustainable. You buy young players, develop them, and sell them on for a profit. It’s how Crewe and to a lesser extent, Middlesbrough have operated for years. If/when the new training ground and academy is finished, this can be used as a farm for young players as we simply do not have the resources to buy a new squad every season.
- When have wages not been paid? I think you’re confusing Wigan with someone like Leeds or Portsmouth who were poorly financially managed.
- The hundreds of millions have gone on the running of the club, servicing debts, and paying players’ wages (all of which available to read the club’s published accounts)
- Whelan walked because of his monumental cock-up in appointing and attempting to support Mackay. Nothing to do with not winning promotion.
- Whelan hasn’t made a profit from the club. What he got from his association with the club was the chance to get in front of the TV cameras at the drop of a hat, and once he’d made himself look silly and nobody wanted his views anymore, that’s when he decided to quietly slip away into the background.
- And if he has left with parachute payments, no wonder all those players left in January because they obviously weren’t being paid.
- In what way is the club in a worse state than when he arrived? I am genuinely baffled by that statement.
- How is David Sharpe supposed to ‘get the club back’? He’s not the manager, nor a player. He’ll be going nowhere as buyers aren’t exactly queuing up and there’s too much Whelan money invested into the club to merely walk away.
- Do Wigan Athletic actually pay rent? I’m sure they don’t pay anything for using the stadium. The stadium is owned by the Whelan family so why would they throw the football club out while they still own both? If the club is ever sold, they will invariably include the stadium within that sale.
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Thanks for the reply Standish, I genuinely appreciate the feedback. However, naturally, i can’t agree. Also you have mistaken me saying we are in a worse state that we were pre-Whelan. I said we will be as a consequence of the asset stripping. Think about the logics of it all, Yeah we played under the guidance of Whelan’s financial master plan on our way up the leagues and there was no danger. Now we are heading in the opposite direction, a 25,000 seater stadium which carries all it’s bills (and rent’s, i assure you Wigan Athletic pay Dave Whelan, Whelco, Wigan Athletic holdings or whatever he calls his business account these days, A rent) The3 maths don’t add up. This club is going to drain money every single week. It will bleed straight out of the council funded sides of the stadium quicker than a hemophiliac on a belt sander. I know you all think i am ‘Thick’ ‘Know nowt’ ‘idiot’ ‘clown’ and whatever other profanity you want to throw my way but can somebody prove me wrong? you can trawl through my past posts over the past 5 years or so and you can prove me right if you like because i assure you, About 90% of what i have been predicting for this club has come true so far. I don’t just brazenly make these comments for attention or to cause a stir (well not all the time) I don’t understand why everyone thinks the sun shines out of his (whelan’s) anus apart from the old clichés obviously.
Standish your assumption that we and Crewe are the same is wrong. They don’t buy young players and move them on they have a great youth academy, One that Wigan Athletic will never have because it will be another big fat lie. The policy of Wigan Athletic is simply to buy cheap and sell big (for no reason) that i can see.
Whelsn walked because of his cock up, Sorry but that is bullshit. He has been threatening to walk for one reason or another since Martinez’s last season, Blaming the faithful fans most of the time (lovely man)
Yeah very sustainable, That’s why we can’t pay transfer fee’s for anyone and keep selling any player on any kind od decent wage. All those hundreds of millions that were made and now all of a sudden wages can no longer be paid.
:- I said Dave Whelan would walk if Latics weren’t promoted within the parachute payments and every asset will be sold – I was right
:- I said the club would end up in a far worse state than when he arrived, it’s starting to look as if i am right.
:- When it becomes obvious that David Sharpe can’t get the club back Granddad will tell him to take what he can and walk
:- Wigan Athletic will eventually get to the stage where they can’t afford the rent and will eventually get kicked out of the stadium. Anyone who thinks this isn’t possible because Uncle Dave said they will always play there, long term lease etc blah blah. He has never screwed any business over that doesn’t turn a profit has he?
:- Ground sharing at Leigh Sports Village looking forward to local derbies with FC United and Stockport.
I presume you’re fishing Yosser, but I’ll humour you and bite:
- Yes is it very sustainable. You buy young players, develop them, and sell them on for a profit. It’s how Crewe and to a lesser extent, Middlesbrough have operated for years. If/when the new training ground and academy is finished, this can be used as a farm for young players as we simply do not have the resources to buy a new squad every season.
- When have wages not been paid? I think you’re confusing Wigan with someone like Leeds or Portsmouth who were poorly financially managed.
- The hundreds of millions have gone on the running of the club, servicing debts, and paying players’ wages (all of which available to read the club’s published accounts)
- Whelan walked because of his monumental cock-up in appointing and attempting to support Mackay. Nothing to do with not winning promotion.
- Whelan hasn’t made a profit from the club. What he got from his association with the club was the chance to get in front of the TV cameras at the drop of a hat, and once he’d made himself look silly and nobody wanted his views anymore, that’s when he decided to quietly slip away into the background.
- And if he has left with parachute payments, no wonder all those players left in January because they obviously weren’t being paid.
- In what way is the club in a worse state than when he arrived? I am genuinely baffled by that statement.
- How is David Sharpe supposed to ‘get the club back’? He’s not the manager, nor a player. He’ll be going nowhere as buyers aren’t exactly queuing up and there’s too much Whelan money invested into the club to merely walk away.
- Do Wigan Athletic actually pay rent? I’m sure they don’t pay anything for using the stadium. The stadium is owned by the Whelan family so why would they throw the football club out while they still own both? If the club is ever sold, they will invariably include the stadium within that sale.
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Thanks for the reply Standish, I genuinely appreciate the feedback. However, naturally, i can’t agree. Also you have mistaken me saying we are in a worse state that we were pre-Whelan. I said we will be as a consequence of the asset stripping. Think about the logics of it all, Yeah we played under the guidance of Whelan’s financial master plan on our way up the leagues and there was no danger. Now we are heading in the opposite direction, a 25,000 seater stadium which carries all it’s bills (and rent’s, i assure you Wigan Athletic pay Dave Whelan, Whelco, Wigan Athletic holdings or whatever he calls his business account these days, A rent) The3 maths don’t add up. This club is going to drain money every single week. It will bleed straight out of the council funded sides of the stadium quicker than a hemophiliac on a belt sander. I know you all think i am ‘Thick’ ‘Know nowt’ ‘idiot’ ‘clown’ and whatever other profanity you want to throw my way but can somebody prove me wrong? you can trawl through my past posts over the past 5 years or so and you can prove me right if you like because i assure you, About 90% of what i have been predicting for this club has come true so far. I don’t just brazenly make these comments for attention or to cause a stir (well not all the time) I don’t understand why everyone thinks the sun shines out of his (whelan’s) anus apart from the old clichés obviously.
Standish your assumption that we and Crewe are the same is wrong. They don’t buy young players and move them on they have a great youth academy, One that Wigan Athletic will never have because it will be another big fat lie. The policy of Wigan Athletic is simply to buy cheap and sell big (for no reason) that i can see.
Whelsn walked because of his cock up, Sorry but that is bullshit. He has been threatening to walk for one reason or another since Martinez’s last season, Blaming the faithful fans most of the time (lovely man)[/quote]
You continually say that Whelan lines his pockets from Wigan Athletic.
The accounts, plus numerous posters on here, continually prove that to be incorrect.
Yet you persist. And you wonder why no-one has any time for you.
Standish your assumption that we and Crewe are the same is wrong. They don’t buy young players and move them on they have a great youth academy, One that Wigan Athletic will never have because it will be another big fat lie. The policy of Wigan Athletic is simply to buy cheap and sell big (for no reason) that i can see.No, we are not like Crewe at present. But it looks like that’s the sort of model the club are aiming to emmulate.
The reason why the club buys low and sells high is because it’s one of the club’s main income streams, but I guessed you wouldn’t see this because you think Whelan takes all the profit.
Yeah very sustainable, That’s why we can’t pay transfer fee’s for anyone and keep selling any player on any kind od decent wage. All those hundreds of millions that were made and now all of a sudden wages can no longer be paid.
:- I said Dave Whelan would walk if Latics weren’t promoted within the parachute payments and every asset will be sold – I was right
:- I said the club would end up in a far worse state than when he arrived, it’s starting to look as if i am right.
:- When it becomes obvious that David Sharpe can’t get the club back Granddad will tell him to take what he can and walk
:- Wigan Athletic will eventually get to the stage where they can’t afford the rent and will eventually get kicked out of the stadium. Anyone who thinks this isn’t possible because Uncle Dave said they will always play there, long term lease etc blah blah. He has never screwed any business over that doesn’t turn a profit has he?
:- Ground sharing at Leigh Sports Village looking forward to local derbies with FC United and Stockport.
I presume you’re fishing Yosser, but I’ll humour you and bite:
- Yes is it very sustainable. You buy young players, develop them, and sell them on for a profit. It’s how Crewe and to a lesser extent, Middlesbrough have operated for years. If/when the new training ground and academy is finished, this can be used as a farm for young players as we simply do not have the resources to buy a new squad every season.
- When have wages not been paid? I think you’re confusing Wigan with someone like Leeds or Portsmouth who were poorly financially managed.
- The hundreds of millions have gone on the running of the club, servicing debts, and paying players’ wages (all of which available to read the club’s published accounts)
- Whelan walked because of his monumental cock-up in appointing and attempting to support Mackay. Nothing to do with not winning promotion.
- Whelan hasn’t made a profit from the club. What he got from his association with the club was the chance to get in front of the TV cameras at the drop of a hat, and once he’d made himself look silly and nobody wanted his views anymore, that’s when he decided to quietly slip away into the background.
- And if he has left with parachute payments, no wonder all those players left in January because they obviously weren’t being paid.
- In what way is the club in a worse state than when he arrived? I am genuinely baffled by that statement.
- How is David Sharpe supposed to ‘get the club back’? He’s not the manager, nor a player. He’ll be going nowhere as buyers aren’t exactly queuing up and there’s too much Whelan money invested into the club to merely walk away.
- Do Wigan Athletic actually pay rent? I’m sure they don’t pay anything for using the stadium. The stadium is owned by the Whelan family so why would they throw the football club out while they still own both? If the club is ever sold, they will invariably include the stadium within that sale.
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Thanks for the reply Standish, I genuinely appreciate the feedback. However, naturally, i can’t agree. Also you have mistaken me saying we are in a worse state that we were pre-Whelan. I said we will be as a consequence of the asset stripping. Think about the logics of it all, Yeah we played under the guidance of Whelan’s financial master plan on our way up the leagues and there was no danger. Now we are heading in the opposite direction, a 25,000 seater stadium which carries all it’s bills (and rent’s, i assure you Wigan Athletic pay Dave Whelan, Whelco, Wigan Athletic holdings or whatever he calls his business account these days, A rent) The3 maths don’t add up. This club is going to drain money every single week. It will bleed straight out of the council funded sides of the stadium quicker than a hemophiliac on a belt sander. I know you all think i am ‘Thick’ ‘Know nowt’ ‘idiot’ ‘clown’ and whatever other profanity you want to throw my way but can somebody prove me wrong? you can trawl through my past posts over the past 5 years or so and you can prove me right if you like because i assure you, About 90% of what i have been predicting for this club has come true so far. I don’t just brazenly make these comments for attention or to cause a stir (well not all the time) I don’t understand why everyone thinks the sun shines out of his (whelan’s) anus apart from the old clichés obviously.
Standish your assumption that we and Crewe are the same is wrong. They don’t buy young players and move them on they have a great youth academy, One that Wigan Athletic will never have because it will be another big fat lie. The policy of Wigan Athletic is simply to buy cheap and sell big (for no reason) that i can see.
Whelsn walked because of his cock up, Sorry but that is bullshit. He has been threatening to walk for one reason or another since Martinez’s last season, Blaming the faithful fans most of the time (lovely man)[/quote]
You do realise our U18s just won the Lancashire Cup and came within a bugs dick of winning the league don’t you? Also that 3 of those were given debuts in the first team? Two being Wigan season ticket holders? Not bad for a club with no academy.
- Do Wigan Athletic actually pay rent? I’m sure they don’t pay anything for using the stadium. The stadium is owned by the Whelan family so why would they throw the football club out while they still own both? If the club is ever sold, they will invariably include the stadium within that sale.
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I don’t know if Latics pay rent or not but the majority shareholder at Latics are Wigan Athletic Holdings Ltd who are also the majority shareholder in the company that operate the DW Stadium – Wigan RL have no ties to either. The Whelan family own 100% of WAH Ltd
Whilst it might look like the same thing, technically what the Whelan family are doing is reducing their risk exposure. Therefore if, for whatever reason, Latics went belly up WAH Ltd would still have the stadium as an asset no matter what was stripped from Latics. I’ve no problem with that coz it makes perfect sense from their point of view
By the same token though because of this situation, it would be perfectly possible for WAH Ltd/The Whelan’s to sell the DW stadium to whoever they wanted whilst retaining ownership of Latics. They could also sell Latics whilst retaining all their controlling stake in the stadium – It is a situation that can be open to abuse & if memory serves me right I think Crystal Palace or Brentford ended up in bother when Ron Noades flogged them coz he had a similar set up & didn’t sell the ground when he sold the club meaning he was able to keep charging rent & the club couldn’t make any money off any of the stadium’s facilities.
Not that I’m saying anyone at WAH Ltd would do that, but it would be possibleDave Whelan has spent huge amounts of money to realise his dream of getting his small hometown team to the highest levels in football, to win the FA Cup 53 years after you-know-what, and see his team play in Europe. He is not going to let it sink now.
If it were me the only thing that would make me want to throw up my hands in despair and walk away in disgust – is people saying I needed to invest more and was only in it to line my own pocket.
That would irritate me more than a little.
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