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11 July 2013 at 3:34 am #117675
I see Martinez has signed on loan a talented 19 yr old Barca forward for 12 months. He’ll no doubt get a few minutes game play in the Capital One cup . He should have given Henriquez a quick bell before making his move.
11 July 2013 at 3:53 am #117676Not wrong mate .
Can’t wait to see the Evertons fans faces the first 5 times Kone gets a great ball straight to his feet, oops bounced off me, worst first touch of any pro ! Fact .11 July 2013 at 4:04 am #117677I’ve just come in.
Have I missed anything important?
11 July 2013 at 1:36 pm #117681As I said earlier, I believe Managers involvement differs depending on who they are and the clubs they’re involved with, we disagree and I can handle that, not sure that giving my opinion automatically makes you right .You’re the club owner and about to sign a player, and soon you’ll be to and froing with offers, working out payment schedules that will satisfy both parties and ensure your club doesn’t over commit, whilst tying the club into several millions pounds of signing on fees, payments to agents, bonuses, extras, release clauses etc, and negotiating your way through a legal minefield and all the red tape that comes with contracts.
Who better to get in and sort it out than an ex-footballer?
Or alternatively, Martinez says to Jonathan Jackson ‘I want to sign Kone. I’ve spoken to his manager and he’s willing to let him go.’ and is told ‘Okay, leave it with us’.
And the manager’s involvement in the transfer process starts and ends there.
11 July 2013 at 3:07 pm #117683I don’t disagree that, that is probably very often the case, one of my points is that as a season nears its end, a manager will get wind of players that are nearing the end of their contracts or have get out clauses & ordinarily you would think that he would ask his Chief Exec, Chairman or whoever to do their best to keep them (& maybe he did) if its in his and the clubs interests, I am suggesting that his view may have become distorted by a conflict of interest .
11 July 2013 at 3:34 pm #117685I don’t disagree that, that is probably very often the case, one of my points is that as a season nears its end, a manager will get wind of players that are nearing the end of their contracts or have get out clauses & ordinarily you would think that he would ask his Chief Exec, Chairman or whoever to do their best to keep them (& maybe he did) if its in his and the clubs interests, I am suggesting that his view may have become distorted by a conflict of interest .I don’t disagree. I’m positive managers are alerted of things like that, however, so are the Chief Execs – and they make decisions based on the best interests of the club.
So even if Martinez intended all along to take Alcaraz with him, there’s no way a player of Alcaraz’s importance to the club would be allowed to simply leave if it could have been avoided.
In our case, I think the threat of relegation deterred some of the players from renewing their contracts, and in the case of people like Figueroa, it was a case of getting more money elsewhere – so even if they were offered new contracts, they chose not to sign them.
11 July 2013 at 4:31 pm #117687Wigan were a Premier League club paying Premier League wages. They are now a Championship team with Championship income, plus parachute payments of course. They need to reduce the wage bill.
There may well be relegation clauses in players’ contracts, but it may also be necessary for some of the first team pool to leave. So it’s probably a good thing – financially – that some contracts have come to an end, including Figueroa, Alcaraz, Stam and Di Canio.
Some first team players will be sold too – Kone is just the first to go. So the transfers in and out of Wigan seem inevitable to me.
In these circumstances, I’m rather surprised that Wigan can afford to buy Grant Holt and then match the wages offered to him by Norwich. But perhaps Coyle thinks a proven goal scorer is the key to success.
This report looks at Holt’s statistics; The Downfall of Grant Holt; http://www.eplindex.com/35087/downfall-of-grant-holt-stats-comparison.html
11 July 2013 at 4:47 pm #117690Relegation clauses – paras 2 and 3:
“The Spaniard says he has a relegation clause in the contract he signed last summer, adding it’s only fair his wages drop in line with his players if the Latics go down.
He said: “There are relegation clauses in all of the contracts. I have one too. It’s about having a sound financial plan and if you drop your league status, you’re dropping your budget. Everyone should be affected.”
http://www.questia.com/library/1G1-327767250/lack-of-cash-in-the-latics-martinez-admits-wigan
11 July 2013 at 5:19 pm #117693Barnsley, I think Di Canio was too old for us even in the Championship
11 July 2013 at 5:48 pm #117700What was I thinking of – I meant Di Santo of course.
That’s the trouble with foreign players – they all sound the same!
11 July 2013 at 9:40 pm #117707Even the groundstaff had a relegation clause in their contract.
11 July 2013 at 11:55 pm #117711Even the groundstaff had a relegation clause in their contract.I also understand that as a consequence of being relegated staff have to to re-apply for the fewer jobs that are now available.
12 July 2013 at 12:26 am #117713Will the pies be cheaper now we are in the championship
lol
12 July 2013 at 12:51 am #117717Will the pies be cheaper now we are in the championshiplol
No – but there will be fewer prawn and onion ones
12 July 2013 at 12:52 am #117718Relegation clauses – paras 2 and 3:“The Spaniard says he has a relegation clause in the contract he signed last summer, adding it’s only fair his wages drop in line with his players if the Latics go down.
He said: “There are relegation clauses in all of the contracts. I have one too. It’s about having a sound financial plan and if you drop your league status, you’re dropping your budget. Everyone should be affected.”
http://www.questia.com/library/1G1-327767250/lack-of-cash-in-the-latics-martinez-admits-wigan
It just show what a two faced lying cheat Martinez is, coming our with all that “WE” stuff when he had already agreed to move to Everton.
Before anyone disputes that statement, the Spurs game was on the 27th April over a week after Martinez had held talks with Everton and agreed a deal.
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