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    natdannatdan
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    Please enlighten me and tell me:

    How much should DW spend?
    Who should he buy?
    How much should he invest with no return?
    What is your current occupation?

    I look forward to your answers.

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    BobbyswiganBobbyswigan
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    Please enlighten me and tell me:

    How much should DW spend?
    Who should he buy?
    How much should he invest with no return?
    What is your current occupation?

    I look forward to your answers.

    1. Cant spend anything now
    2. Cant buy anybody
    3. Nothing at all, cant invest a bean now.
    4. Chemical Engineer

    There you go, hope you enjoyed my answers.

    #7698
    natdannatdan
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    How much should he have spent?
    Who should he have bought?
    How much should he have invested?
    Have the chemicals got to your head?

    How much did he invest from 1995 to 2008?

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    filmossfilmoss
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    How much did he get for the sale of Springfield Park ?
    How much money has he received from being in Prem ( TV etc ) ?
    How much money did he receive for getting into Prem ?
    How much money has he made from transfers ( sales minus purchases ) ?
    How much money has he made from gratuitous advertising ?

    #7704
    jimmy_cornflakeCRAIG
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    I don’t know….but in all fairness neither do you….

    How much should DW spend? – Depends on the type of player that the club deem appropiate
    Who should he buy? as above
    How much should he invest with no return? He has probably been doing this since 1995…investing with no return. If you think of the money we had spent in the lower leagues on trying to gain promotion etc….bet it all adds up.
    What is your current occupation? Managing Director

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    loudmouthbluedamian walker
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    Please enlighten me and tell me:

    How much should DW spend?
    Who should he buy?
    How much should he invest with no return?
    What is your current occupation?

    I look forward to your answers.

    how has david whelan not had any return ?
    you explain that to me after reading what i posted on numerous occaisions on both this and other message boards.

    David Whelan CHOSE to do all those things,we as fans did not ask him,he gave with one hand and now seems to be taking back with the other.
    lets examine mr whelans motives and what it actually cost him.

    Many of you on here,those who seem to be in the “whelan can do no wrong camp” keep saying how much it cost him,others accuse his critics of having no business sense well i am now going to say something that some of you will not agree with.

    IT COST HIM NOTHING

    why you may ask ?

    It costs up to £50,000+ for a 30 second tv advert,but these have to be bought in groups, peak and off peak and this 50k is the tip of the iceberg,this figure does not include any of the production fees,
    well all the way through the latics meteoric rise JJB had more free advertising airtime than a company of its size could ever wish for,
    they even managed to get FREE airtime on the BBC,nigh on impossible seeing as the beeb dont do commercial adverts,
    Latics never EVER got a mention without a link to whelan himself or JJB plc. in particular.
    This was a marriage of two organisations that was a marketing company’s dream come true, and for a man who seems to crave publicity and a media attention as much as he does it was priceless.

    I suggest that mr whelans motives for ‘investing’ in wigan athletic were the same as the reasons he gave for ‘not investing’ in manchester united,every football fan in the lower leagues wanted their own david whelan and instantly recognised his company.
    Now that the need for the ‘marriage’ is no longer required, or latics are not part of his long term business outlook, disposal is very high on his agenda.

    david whelan has had a motive for everything he has done in life and wigan athletic are no longer needed in his overall outlook and that is why he is doing what he is now,he has clawed back every penny he has ever spent on wigan athletic and is now making sure it will not cost him any more.

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    jewelstuart prescott
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    Please enlighten me and tell me:

    How much should DW spend?
    Who should he buy?
    How much should he invest with no return?
    What is your current occupation?

    I look forward to your answers.

    the point of the above is what exactly ???

    what does my occupation have to do with anything ???

    this , and other similar forums are where people are allowed to voice their opinion , get over it

    the tic’s are in a bad place at the moment , big dave was quiet happy to take all the back slapping when things where going well , he , and the pro DW brigade , should now be man enough to take the criticism of frustrated fans when things look to be going tits up at a rapid rate of knots

    #7999
    natdannatdan
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    The Tics are in a bad place hahahah

    1, We are in the premier league
    2, We have just played Aston Villa, Manchester United, Everton & Wolverhampton Wanderers and got 3 points as expected out these games.
    3, We have a new manager and a new style of play
    4, We have a chairman who supported us through the divisions
    5, We have avergae crowds up from 1850 to 17000 in 14 years

    We realy are in trouble.

    Compare with Leeds United, Newcastle United, Southampton, Wimbledon, Charlton Athletic need I go on.

    Why should DW invest all HIS money into one of his business ventures. He spent how many million on JJB sports fitness centres as this was a worthwhile business venture.

    Still nobody answered the post of who we should have bought and how much should we have spent.

    If we stay up this year will this not be an amazing business decision of DW?????

    Where were you when we were shxt, where were you, where were you, where were you when we were shxt.

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    ZeniamonNeil.W
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    “Now that the need for the ‘marriage’ is no longer required, or latics are not part of his long term business outlook, disposal is very high on his agenda.”

    Wouldnt DW Sports replace the “marriage” that was once JJB , why would he give up the free ads for his new company?

    You didnt really think it through that much did you?

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    loudmouthbluedamian walker
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    ”Now that the need for the ‘marriage’ is no longer required, or latics are not part of his long term business outlook, disposal is very high on his agenda.”

    Wouldnt DW Sports replace the “marriage” that was once JJB , why would he give up the free ads for his new company?

    You didnt really think it through that much did you?

    i beg to differ,and suggest you typed your drivel without any thought,

    pray tell me which are better bed fellows with a football club, a company that sells football related sports items as ‘a major part of its total sales output’, who every football fan in this country has probably purchased something from at one time or another,
    or an company that panders to poseurs, overweight mothers and wanabe mr universe’s, who are that wrapped up in looking at themselves in the ‘gym’s mirrors’ they dont know that football even exsists.

    please tell me

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    NorthernprimateNorthernprimate
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    ”Now that the need for the ‘marriage’ is no longer required, or latics are not part of his long term business outlook, disposal is very high on his agenda.”

    Wouldnt DW Sports replace the “marriage” that was once JJB , why would he give up the free ads for his new company?

    You didnt really think it through that much did you?

    i beg to differ,and suggest you typed your drivel without any thought,

    pray tell me which are better bed fellows with a football club, a company that sells football related sports items as ‘a major part of its total sales output’, who every football fan in this country has probably purchased something from at one time or another,
    or an company that panders to poseurs, overweight mothers and wanabe mr universe’s, who are that wrapped up in looking at themselves in the ‘gym’s mirrors’ they dont know that football even exsists.

    please tell me[/quote]

    After reading that, it struck me that a sports retailer with every football fan in the country as a potential customer would probably be best advised NOT to associate itself too closely with ONE team.
    After all, we’re a fickle bunch us supporters. We tend to be loyal to one team, no matter what. Well, some of us are, but maybe not all?

    This loyalty is usually to the exclusion of all others and even shows itself as hatred of some rival teams. How do you think the average Bolton fan felt knowing that if he spent his money in JJB then it would benefit Wigan Athletic?

    Now, I only gave this about 30 seconds thought and maybe 2 mins to type it. Hope it’s not drivel.

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    loudmouthbluedamian walker
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    —————–After reading that, it struck me that a sports retailer with every football fan in the country as a potential customer would probably be best advised NOT to associate itself too closely with ONE team.
    After all, we’re a fickle bunch us supporters. We tend to be loyal to one team, no matter what. Well, some of us are, but maybe not all?

    This loyalty is usually to the exclusion of all others and even shows itself as hatred of some rival teams. How do you think the average Bolton fan felt knowing that if he spent his money in JJB then it would benefit Wigan Athletic?

    Now, I only gave this about 30 seconds thought and maybe 2 mins to type it. Hope it’s not drivel.——————

    No your point is not drivel in fact you have hit the nail on the head,but the picture is much bigger than an odd noblot fan.

    That was the reason whelan gave for not buying manchester united, because every man and his dog(except man u fans)hate them,and he thought that would effect his business.
    Now with wafc it was different we were an insignificant poxy little club who nobody gave a hoot about,people just saw the way a little club was making good and apart from the odd jealous fan,everybody loves a fairytale,and whelan and the jjb empire exploited this to the full, which i fully support.
    Look at that first premiership season,we were everybodies favourite second team,who gives a toss about a few bolton or preston fans that hate us when 99% of lower division teams fans saw the story unfolding and wanted there own david whelan,they loved him for it,they loved us and they loved JJB,we were the media’s darlings and as i said before a marketing mans dream come true.

    The whole point i have made throughout this ‘whelan love or loathe topic’ is, in general terms whelan and his then jjb company had millions and millions in free publicity and marketing and the sums whelan has ‘invested’ in wigan athletic pales into insignificance when this is taken into consideration.
    I have always maintained david whelan has had an agenda/motive for every thing he has ever done in life and the latics ownership and investment sat easily in that plan.

    The question / point i am trying to get across now, is does he need wigan athletic anymore?
    It now no longer fits into his business plan as neatly as it once did, the evidence is there for all to see,his drastic cost cutting measures,and requirement to pay back its debts(albiet to himself) has led to the most inexperieced squad we have had in our short premiership tenure,

    and i for one want to know why.

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    griffChris Griffin
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    After reading that, it struck me that a sports retailer with every football fan in the country as a potential customer would probably be best advised NOT to associate itself too closely with ONE team.
    After all, we’re a fickle bunch us supporters. We tend to be loyal to one team, no matter what. Well, some of us are, but maybe not all?

    This loyalty is usually to the exclusion of all others and even shows itself as hatred of some rival teams. How do you think the average Bolton fan felt knowing that if he spent his money in JJB then it would benefit Wigan Athletic?

    Now, I only gave this about 30 seconds thought and maybe 2 mins to type it. Hope it’s not drivel.

    This was (allegedly) the exact reason why Whelan didn’t want to buy United because he was afraid it would alienate supporters in Liverpool and London, etc.

    Other than that, I found your post to be complete drivel. Please don’t be insulted

    #8025
    ZeniamonNeil.W
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    Do you think that people all over this country would have heard of DW Sports in such a short space of time if it wasnt for Wigan Athletic? I think not.

    So WAFC are indeed a very important “bed fellow” to DW and his new company!

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    StandishWalkerStandishWalker
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    —————–After reading that, it struck me that a sports retailer with every football fan in the country as a potential customer would probably be best advised NOT to associate itself too closely with ONE team.
    After all, we’re a fickle bunch us supporters. We tend to be loyal to one team, no matter what. Well, some of us are, but maybe not all?

    This loyalty is usually to the exclusion of all others and even shows itself as hatred of some rival teams. How do you think the average Bolton fan felt knowing that if he spent his money in JJB then it would benefit Wigan Athletic?

    Now, I only gave this about 30 seconds thought and maybe 2 mins to type it. Hope it’s not drivel.——————

    No your point is not drivel in fact you have hit the nail on the head,but the picture is much bigger than an odd noblot fan.

    That was the reason whelan gave for not buying manchester united, because every man and his dog(except man u fans)hate them,and he thought that would effect his business.
    Now with wafc it was different we were an insignificant poxy little club who nobody gave a hoot about,people just saw the way a little club was making good and apart from the odd jealous fan,everybody loves a fairytale,and whelan and the jjb empire exploited this to the full, which i fully support.
    Look at that first premiership season,we were everybodies favourite second team,who gives a toss about a few bolton or preston fans that hate us when 99% of lower division teams fans saw the story unfolding and wanted there own david whelan,they loved him for it,they loved us and they loved JJB,we were the media’s darlings and as i said before a marketing mans dream come true.

    The whole point i have made throughout this ‘whelan love or loathe topic’ is, in general terms whelan and his then jjb company had millions and millions in free publicity and marketing and the sums whelan has ‘invested’ in wigan athletic pales into insignificance when this is taken into consideration.
    I have always maintained david whelan has had an agenda/motive for every thing he has ever done in life and the latics ownership and investment sat easily in that plan.

    The question / point i am trying to get across now, is does he need wigan athletic anymore?
    It now no longer fits into his business plan as neatly as it once did, the evidence is there for all to see,his drastic cost cutting measures,and requirement to pay back its debts(albiet to himself) has led to the most inexperieced squad we have had in our short premiership tenure,

    and i for one want to know why.

    You’re right in a lot of what you say, and although I‘ve disagreed with some of the anti-Whelan comments and opinions on here recently, I agree with the principle of this argument.

    Whelan isn’t The People’s Champion, growing up on the terraces of Springfield Park, and returning as a local hero to save his beloved club, and I fully agree that his primary motive for buying the club in the first place was more than likely to make money – whether that be directly through the club, or to use as a vehicle for advertising JJB.

    The only thing bigger than Whelan’s bank balance however, is his ego, and I’m sure it didn’t take him long to realise that it is nigh-on impossible to run a club like Wigan and make a profit, however, it did ensure that no longer was he Dave Something-Or-Other who owns a chain of sports retailers, he suddenly became Dave Whelan, football club chairman, pictured and quoted in the national press and on tv.

    I still maintain the opinion that the club’s policy of buying low-selling high is to manage debts, rather than to merely line Whelan’s pockets, but it is his club, and he was the one who stumped up the millions to buy it and save it from administration, so if he does make money on it all, so be it.

    As long at the club exists, I’ll still pay my money to watch, and as none of us have shares or a financial interest in the club, we don’t technically have the right to ask Whelan to explain himself.

    I believe Whelan does still need the club, not for financial motives, but to service his ego, and until another multi-millionaire Latics fan appears on the horizon, I’ll pay my dues to what he has done and support him for as long as he is involved in the club.

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