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19 September 2026 at 9:19 pm #207708
To be fair after today’s painful post match interview it wouldn’t be a surprise if he walked. The owner has rightly f####### him over …..and us. Scratching around the transfer market……constantly having to loan academy players. What happened to the owners pledge to invest any sales back into the squad ?……he meant using the money to run the business as a whole……Having to hope his gambled on ,cheap fix signings like Perkins can bare fruit. That’s all it is …..hope.!!!…Kids,Perkins,Costelloe, Sze,Saydee absolutely relegation material. As previously stated every man and his pooch knew where we needed serious recruitment but the t##t of a billionaire owner pulled Caldwells and supporters kecks down and rubber sausaged us. We are a f####### laughing stock. Can’t win,score…..and against Wimbledon, Orient, Cambridge,Wycombe and the embarrassing Stockport farce. Don’t know how we rescue this season……relegation looks nailed on. As long as this Thugby cracking one off owners still in charge then it really looks bleak……our survival has only one saviour……..results on the pitch…….but with this squad……looks impossible.
20 September 2026 at 9:06 am #207714“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”,
I was speaking with a friend who said he’d have Perkins all day long over Costelloe.
I’m not sure what game he’s watching but he must be wearing the same rose tint glasses Caldwells wearing.
Sony Perkins is simply not good enough. He’s levels below what we need.
We’re playing as bad as last season but the difference is, in the second half of last season we had a guy who would put half chances away
I am lost as to why Moseley was sent out on loan. If you wanna find out if he can swim, throw him in at the deep end.
But the problem stems right from the top
I’m not quite sure Maloney didn’t warn Caldwell because he’s getting the exact same treatment
NO FUNDS AVAILABLE
Since Danson took over
Incoming £12 million
Outgoing £600k-£700k
Self sufficient??
More like
Self Suffication
20 September 2026 at 9:18 am #207718I’ve just thought the same about Caldwell, this could see him walk. And not just with what’s happened this week, he’s not looked great recently. I’ve seen it with managers before. When I worked at the ‘Death star’ in Horwich, when I first met Phil Parkinson, he was cheerful, upbeat, down to earth and was polite and talkative. A year down the line when all their owner stresses were going on, he looked like he had aged 6 years and was locking himself away in his hotel room. I was also told that when Neil Lennon was there, he was buying and drinking a bottle of whisky a night. And that Sam Allardyce would go to Tesco, come back with bags of red wine and cans, and go back to his room.
So its a stressful job at the best of times, never mind with what’s happened this week. But with these owners…bloody hell. I couldn’t work like that. Trying to put a team together with buttons. I’m not a GC fan, but I wish him no harm. Same with Ryan Lowe. These fuckers have ruined 3 managers so far. We could bring Pep in and it wouldnt be any different. There aren’t many managers who would work like this. Lowe was definitely misled when he took the job on. And considering Caldwell left the relative tranquility of Exeter behind, he was as well.
It would take a really brave man to come out and call it as it is. Lowe no doubt signed an NDA, so can’t say anything. They’re absolutely shitheads these owners. Killing the club.
It’s only heading in one direction. The club is dying. Less and less turning up, yesterday was worse than the previous game. No excuses of people away on holiday now, that’s gone. Kids back in school, etc. People are not turning up because its SHIT. It’s that simple.
You go to be ENTERTAINED. You go to ENJOY it.
I’m getting neither out of it. It has become a chore. Really had to make an effort to go yesterday. We can’t even do the simple things. Can’t keep clean sheets, and can’t score goals. Whatever the level you’re at, you’re only heading one way. We have some of the worst strikers I have ever seen. No wonder Leyton Orient fans were laughing when we signed Perkins. And Caldwell paid for him! So out of his depth. And so is Sze. Why they persevere with him is beyond me. Utter shite. And as for Costelloe…I keep thinking he will come good. But he’s gone backwards if anything. We think he should pack in football and take up running.
The only bright lights are the two young lads on loan, Gray and Walsh. We actually don’t think Walsh is quite ready for first team mens football. He IS only 17 still and a bit raw and naive. Gray though, you can see how good he is and how good he will be. But they’re playing surrounded by shit. Carragher and Weir who are only footballers because of their dad’s. No, its true. But for them, they wouldn’t be playing professional football. No way. Its clear Nepotism. We have a goalkeeper that makes me look tall, and I am under 6 foot. Smallest keeper I’ve ever seen. These signings baffle me. Fraser Murray has some ability, but is too slight and knocked over too easy. Max Power POINTS a good game. He only came back to be handy for the school run. Let’s be honest. Connor Barrett, I actually like. But he isn’t getting played enough. The whole formation is shite….
I dont like anything about us, do I?
Simple fact is we got rid of too many players in the sunmer. The turnaround in staff has been too big. Massive mistake. We’ve made a poor team, a shite team. With such changes, recruitment had to be done early as possible, to ‘let them gel’. Yet we were still signing players right upto the deadline, and 3 weeks after the seasons start! The whole shitshow has been a recipe for disaster. And thats what this season is becoming, a disaster.
No doubt its been a shite week for GC and all at the club. I totally get that and am not without sympathy. To see him crumble in that post match presser yesterday, it was a disgrace it was allowed to happen. Whoever is the media manager at the club, should’ve intervened and called halt…”Gents, can we call a halt to it there? The gaffer will speak further about today’s game in a couple of days time. Thank you very much”. That’s what I would’ve done.
Any criticism I have of GC is purely down to whats happening on the park, nothing personal. We said weeks ago the way things are going he won’t make Christmas. I think that even more so now. He’s working to such constraints, we all know. And it would be no different for anyone else. The club is actually being killed. Ran into the ground. Pep or Klopp wouldn’t be any different. (Although I doubt either would select Perkins or Sze)
These bastards have ruined Maloney, Lowe, and are doing the same to Caldwell. They’re actually doing far more damage to us than Al Jasmi ever did. They didn’t Asset strip us. And thats clearly what this gobshite and his gormless son have done. A knobhead owner and his son ruining a club this side of the Pennines. Its been done before….
That club have bounced back in a big way. (As much as I/we hate them, they have done) But I can’t see Latics bouncing back like that. Not unless something massive and major happens. And I can’t see it.
I’m watching more football on telly now than I have in years. Why? Because I might enjoy it. Without the emotional attachment, I might just enjoy it more. I watch it and think a lot of the time ‘why can’t we play it about like that?’ Or ‘that was good, neat play’. We can’t even do the basics.
Borrowed time. Read into that how you want. Manager, club, ownership. Could be any of those. How we are existing and heading, there’s no future in Wigan Athletic FC.
20 September 2026 at 9:34 am #207719“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”, I was speaking with a friend who said he’d have Perkins all day long over Costelloe. I’m not sure what game he’s watching but he must be wearing the same rose tint glasses Caldwells wearing. Sony Perkins is simply not good enough. He’s levels below what we need. We’re playing as bad as last season but the difference is, in the second half of last season we had a guy who would put half chances away I am lost as to why Moseley was sent out on loan. If you wanna find out if he can swim, throw him in at the deep end. But the problem stems right from the top I’m not quite sure Maloney didn’t warn Caldwell because he’s getting the exact same treatment NO FUNDS AVAILABLE Since Danson took over Incoming £12 million Outgoing £600k-£700k Self sufficient?? More like Self Suffication
Anybody who thinks Perkins is a good player really should f*** off and not watch football ever again. Because they haven’t got a clue. He makes Pat Gavin look like Ronaldo R9 (the Brazil one)
This element of our support is doing as much damage as the ownership. At any other club, fans would have reacted by now. But we are so apathetic. Its staggering. We have some proper retards in our support. A lot just go out of habit. They’d still go if we sank to the North West Counties.
It was really telling as we walked down the steps on 82 mins yesterday. Just as they were putting Sze on. (The introduction of ‘Pencil’ as my lad calls him, was the final straw) The amount of people sat there playing on and looking at their Phones, Facebook, YouTube, News channels…it was unbelievable. 6 minutes from full-time and a goal down. Yet the onfield action was so riveting, people weren’t even watching! That’s telling in itself. No near misses, no balls whizzing across the 6 yard box with players sliding in. Just the same docile shit Performance as ever.
Weird, clueless fan base. No other club would get away with whats going on. Not a chance. We’re crumbling to obscurity.
20 September 2026 at 11:15 am #207720Well said…….read some of the happy clapping goons on other forums makes my blood boil. GC is Wigan to the core and this tosspot miser owner and his vacuum headed son need to be held accountable for the way they’ve treated a Wigan Legend!!!!
20 September 2026 at 7:38 pm #207721The thing is though, if Caldwell walks or get potted, it will not be any better for the next person to take the job on. Theyve had THREE managers now, all struggling to different degrees.
Ryan Lowe has had so much stick and abuse, and clearly its not the manager(s) that’s the problem.
I just think this whole thing will get a lot worse yet. I may have a Season ticket, but I’m not going wasting Saturday afternoons like I did yesterday. No chance.
21 September 2026 at 12:55 pm #207875Cannot see anything but relegation now for Latics unfortunately , steady decline for many years and with no money to spend on players we have had it.
League 2 and maybe even Non league is imminent unless things dramatically change.
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