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with any player worth a few being sold off and replaced with inferior ones or youth players then we will be back in non league before you know it !
another relegation battle beckons in my opinion – rookies running the club and has beens and kids in the squad!?
But no it’s ” how great it is to go to burton aren’t we lucky?”
FFS we used to play on the same pitch as chelsea and arsenal and the legacy should be championship at least.
With little or no investment in the squad we are going nowhere and its a fecking disgrace but with so much apathy from our supporters the ridiculous policies will continue and we will struggle!Hats off to the young Mr Sharpe in my opinion , he’s backed Mr Calamity and the money being spent in division 1 by us is off the scale yes it may be a little of the parachute payments and next season may give us more of an idea but at the moment well done , as for Burton watch this space there a very good outfit with an exellent manager in Mr Hasselbaink their my tip for promotion along with us.
Questions for lightsiders
Would you have picked Caldwell for manager?
Why are we selling our best players when we have raised several million on transfers and are still in receipt of parachute money?
Why are people so deluded ?
Does anyone think seriously that people will come to watch a team in a season that has 1993 -94 ( kenny swain era) written all over it?
Why are we selling our best players when we have raised several million on transfers and are still in receipt of parachute money?
If you need to ask that then you really do not understand football and its finances.
Talk about “deluded”!
Dearie me…….. but anyway:
– No
– Because financially, we have to. (Surely, you understand this really ?!)
– You couldn’t make it up ………….. seriously ?
– If they support Wigan Athletic, yes.I don’t know why I bother, but let me try and explain the finances again.
Imagine you’ve had a job that pays £40,000 pa. You’ve got yourself a nice house and bought a BMW.
However you lose that job. You’ve got some redundancy money coming your way, that will last a you a couple of years maybe, but after that you will have to claim benefits if you don’t find a job. You almost had one, but it fell through. Your income has hugely dropped.
Now – do you hold onto your BMW in the belief that it will get you to job interviews better (although it isn’t as reliable as it used to be and costs a fortune in petrol), or do you sell it, get yourself a smaller more economical job that could still get you to job interviews?
Are you able to now use the money you now have to continue to pay the gas, electric, council tax etc that still have to paid, while still being able to feed yourself and the family? Or do you hold onto the BMW, see your redundancy money disappear, and find you can’t pay the bills and become bankrupt?
Which is it to be?
I think to be fair to Gary Caldwell, he’ll be on a hiding to nothing unless he plays Grigg and Davies, that will give him his best chance.To lose so many senior players and replace them all with only possibly 2 players at least as good, leaves too much to find find no matter what level were at. Too many changes all for the sake of this wage bill bollocks everybody is swallowing. How do you think we get to the Premier League? That’s right spending a few quid not getting Blackpool rejects in.
Just get used to watching lower league football again and losing that generation of support we were developing. Shameful really.
Please stop supporting my club. I don’t want pillocks like you anywhere near Wigan Athletic. Your posts are negative and you are literally getting on my pips.
Yes we are shyte, yes we will get relegated again, yes we’ve sold all our best players, yes our crowds will drop, so goodbye and enjoy whatever you decide to spend your money on this August to May.Forgot to mention, thanks for the negative karma Mr Hill.
From Matlock to ManU
What a journey!I think to be fair to Gary Caldwell, he’ll be on a hiding to nothing unless he plays Grigg and Davies, that will give him his best chance.
To lose so many senior players and replace them all with only possibly 2 players at least as good, leaves too much to find find no matter what level were at. Too many changes all for the sake of this wage bill bollocks everybody is swallowing. How do you think we get to the Premier League? That’s right spending a few quid not getting Blackpool rejects in.
Just get used to watching lower league football again and losing that generation of support we were developing. Shameful really.
Please stop supporting my club. I don’t want pillocks like you anywhere near Wigan Athletic. Your posts are negative and you are literally getting on my pips.
Yes we are shyte, yes we will get relegated again, yes we’ve sold all our best players, yes our crowds will drop, so goodbye and enjoy whatever you decide to spend your money on this August to May.Forgot to mention, thanks for the negative karma Mr Hill.
[/quote]Anytime you want to come and have a chat with me to express the view I shouldn’t watch my local club who I’ve watching week in week out for 30 years and even call me me a wanker and a pillock to my face, feel free, you know where you’ll be going, you obviously know who I am.
Your club. You utter cock.
Just to piss you off further me and the lad already have our season tickets at OUR club, he has his kit too. We’re in ES3 this year just in case you’re struggling to find us.
Actually John I now realise who you are and I’m quite surprised by your post.
I presume you were pissed when you wrote it.
Quite a shameful post if not, from someone like you, when this board is all about opinions with a bit of wind up chucked in.
My original comments weren’t negative, they were how I see it, Gary Caldwell has a very tough job with such a vast turnaround in players. For that reason I don’t expect a great start to the season but I look forward to being proved wrong by YOUR club.
I don’t know why I bother, but let me try and explain the finances again.Imagine you’ve had a job that pays £40,000 pa. You’ve got yourself a nice house and bought a BMW.
However you lose that job. You’ve got some redundancy money coming your way, that will last a you a couple of years maybe, but after that you will have to claim benefits if you don’t find a job. You almost had one, but it fell through. Your income has hugely dropped.
Now – do you hold onto your BMW in the belief that it will get you to job interviews better (although it isn’t as reliable as it used to be and costs a fortune in petrol), or do you sell it, get yourself a smaller more economical job that could still get you to job interviews?
Are you able to now use the money you now have to continue to pay the gas, electric, council tax etc that still have to paid, while still being able to feed yourself and the family? Or do you hold onto the BMW, see your redundancy money disappear, and find you can’t pay the bills and become bankrupt?
Which is it to be?
Garswood…that is a very poor analogy indeed and in no way does it reflect how the finances of such a large organisation, such as we have, operates. To oversimplify in this manner does more damage to peoples perceptions than it does explain.
I agree that transfer dealings, wages, signings, contracts, buildings and fixtures, fluidity, profit and loss etc are complex matters to grasp, however, I think a better, maybe bullet point, set of notes would have been better rather than a rambling shaggy dog story.
Some people may just not grasp these concepts…it does not make them thick, deluded or stupid; they just have different skill levels.
I think to be fair to Gary Caldwell, he’ll be on a hiding to nothing unless he plays Grigg and Davies, that will give him his best chance.
To lose so many senior players and replace them all with only possibly 2 players at least as good, leaves too much to find find no matter what level were at. Too many changes all for the sake of this wage bill bollocks everybody is swallowing. How do you think we get to the Premier League? That’s right spending a few quid not getting Blackpool rejects in.
Just get used to watching lower league football again and losing that generation of support we were developing. Shameful really.
Please stop supporting my club. I don’t want pillocks like you anywhere near Wigan Athletic. Your posts are negative and you are literally getting on my pips.
Yes we are shyte, yes we will get relegated again, yes we’ve sold all our best players, yes our crowds will drop, so goodbye and enjoy whatever you decide to spend your money on this August to May.Forgot to mention, thanks for the negative karma Mr Hill.
[/quote]Anytime you want to come and have a chat with me to express the view I shouldn’t watch my local club who I’ve watching week in week out for 30 years and even call me me a wanker and a pillock to my face, feel free, you know where you’ll be going, you obviously know who I am.
Your club. You utter cock.
Just to piss you off further me and the lad already have our season tickets at OUR club, he has his kit too. We’re in ES3 this year just in case you’re struggling to find us.[/quote]
Can you please read the post back very carefully and tell me where I called you a wanker. That’s unless your name is Mr Hill as in Vince.
From Matlock to ManU
What a journey!I don’t know why I bother, but let me try and explain the finances again.Imagine you’ve had a job that pays £40,000 pa. You’ve got yourself a nice house and bought a BMW.
However you lose that job. You’ve got some redundancy money coming your way, that will last a you a couple of years maybe, but after that you will have to claim benefits if you don’t find a job. You almost had one, but it fell through. Your income has hugely dropped.
Now – do you hold onto your BMW in the belief that it will get you to job interviews better (although it isn’t as reliable as it used to be and costs a fortune in petrol), or do you sell it, get yourself a smaller more economical job that could still get you to job interviews?
Are you able to now use the money you now have to continue to pay the gas, electric, council tax etc that still have to paid, while still being able to feed yourself and the family? Or do you hold onto the BMW, see your redundancy money disappear, and find you can’t pay the bills and become bankrupt?
Which is it to be?
I think its a very good analogy.
In 2003, DW contributed a (then) significant sum of money on quality players in an attempt to get Wigan from 3rd division to Premier league as quickly as possible. In 2015, the amount that would be needed to repeat the feat would be around 10 times the amount spent on the likes of Roberts, Ellington etc.
Wigan circa 2015 is about developing young local players, not buying imported merceneries.
if I am a wanker for having an opinion then so be it – is this board a corporate website or somewhere for long standing supporters ( 37 years) like myself to put their opinion on regardless of whether other posters agree or not?
that’s called debateI think its a very good analogy.In 2003, DW contributed a (then) significant sum of money on quality players in an attempt to get Wigan from 3rd division to Premier league as quickly as possible. In 2015, the amount that would be needed to repeat the feat would be around 10 times the amount spent on the likes of Roberts, Ellington etc.
Wigan circa 2015 is about developing young local players, not buying imported merceneries.
Your understanding of that analogy is as subtle as a hand grenade is a barrel of sh1t. The ruse is to provide more information about a difficult concept by comparing it to an already understood idea. But then, it’s what I expected.
You ‘scattergun’ some information in your post relating to the money Mr Whelan contributed during a specific period in the clubs history. How much is ‘significant’? How do you realise the cost differential to be ’10 times the amount spent on the likes of Roberts, Ellington etc’? Why do you think that the boards policy may or may not have included the purchase of ‘imported merceneries’ (sic)? How would you explain or consider the relationship between total revenue profits of player purchases/sales and total costs when you calculate the overall value of the clubs overall business.
Now tell us all again how that was a good analogy.
I think to be fair to Gary Caldwell, he’ll be on a hiding to nothing unless he plays Grigg and Davies, that will give him his best chance.
To lose so many senior players and replace them all with only possibly 2 players at least as good, leaves too much to find find no matter what level were at. Too many changes all for the sake of this wage bill bollocks everybody is swallowing. How do you think we get to the Premier League? That’s right spending a few quid not getting Blackpool rejects in.
Just get used to watching lower league football again and losing that generation of support we were developing. Shameful really.
Please stop supporting my club. I don’t want pillocks like you anywhere near Wigan Athletic. Your posts are negative and you are literally getting on my pips.
Yes we are shyte, yes we will get relegated again, yes we’ve sold all our best players, yes our crowds will drop, so goodbye and enjoy whatever you decide to spend your money on this August to May.Forgot to mention, thanks for the negative karma Mr Hill.
[/quote]Anytime you want to come and have a chat with me to express the view I shouldn’t watch my local club who I’ve watching week in week out for 30 years and even call me me a wanker and a pillock to my face, feel free, you know where you’ll be going, you obviously know who I am.
Your club. You utter cock.
Just to piss you off further me and the lad already have our season tickets at OUR club, he has his kit too. We’re in ES3 this year just in case you’re struggling to find us.[/quote]
Personal threats eh?, how grown up is that. If you’ve been watching them 30 years then you should know better than being sooooo negative before the season has started. Grow up man and act like you are a middle aged man who has spent more than half your life supporting the tics.
Yes you are allowed your opinion like the next man, but to think I’m phished off cos you’ve got a season ticket, you must be even thicker than I thought. As for calling it my club, that’s how this thing works. You pick a team to support and that becomes your club, along with the thousands of other fans of that club.I’ve pointed out on a previous post that I didn’t call you a wanker, I did however say you was a pollock and will say the same to your face if I ever met you, cos that’s exactly what you come across like on this forum. Oh and by the way my dads bigger than your dad. Lol
From Matlock to ManU
What a journey!
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