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Just you’re opinion though, isn’t it?
The thing is, having picked Martinez partly because he promised a new philosophy of playing the game – whether you agree with it or not – to then go for Allardyce takes you to the completely opposite end of the spectrum, further on than Bruce ever was.
Anyway, as the media seems to think that Allardyce is God, I fully expect him to turn up his nose at Wigan, even if offered, and to show up very soon at West Ham.
Yes it is just my opinion. That’s why i said “that I’ve paid to watch” & i fully admit to not paying to watch it anywhere near as much as I used to
I would also have no problem going for Bobby’s philosophy to the other end of the spectrum because at a club like Latics & in the division we are in, Bobby’s philosophy (IMO) will never work
You could argue that the players would have to adapt to a completely different style of play, but IMO the majority of em have never adapted to Bobby’s style of play coz many of em aren’t suited to it so I don’t think that would be a problemYou’re probably right about the last bit but I think it’d all depend on what other offers there were on the table. I can’t imagine West Ham going for him to be honest – their fans, of which Sullivan & Gold are 2 of em, buy hook line & sinker into that Academy of football rubbish that the media spouts about West Ham so I just can’t see em going for Allardyce & his acquired taste style of football as successful as it seems to be
To clarify, I was referring to Whelan’s choosing Martinez’s philosophy and how it would be quite strange to go to the polar opposite. But, as we know, Whelan has been known to change his tune now and again.
For the record, I will back any manager we have. I just hope that when we do change Bobby it’s not for Allardyce.
Personally I don’t think Bobby’s style of play had that much to do with Whelan choosing him as manager
I don’t think Bobby will sack Whelan & I think Allardyce would only come if Latics were the only other top flight option but in reply to the “Big Sam for Bob anyone??” question that started the thread – for me its yes please & the sooner the better
I’m really sad that people are agreeing with this thread.
Of course Bob is testing our patience at the moment but I believe we will come out of this an more exciting and successful team – within limits. If it means relegation that’s the way it goes.
To get Fatty in would take us back to a style lower than Bruce and that it would be like a slow, painful death even if we stayed up. Imagine the stick we would get off Bolton?
If you seriously want Allardyce you know nothing about football.
Blinkers off and up the revolution!
“Some of the biggest $h!te I’ve paid to watch at Latics has been served up under Bobby.
Slow, plodding, tepid, gutless, low scoring, high conceding & boring rubbish on the whole”I agree with a lot of that, but I wouldn’t want Allardyce anywhere near our club.
Martinez’s football – in the main, 2 touch with no running off the ball, no width and no purpose other than keeping the ball is the worst sort of pseudo intelligent football. There is no obvious intent to move forward and score
I personally think the best football played at our club in the top flight were in two periods:
1. The first half of 2005/6 under Jewell. Fast, purposeful, effective counterattacking football with two very mobile centre forwards in Camara and Roberts and two mobile full backs with Baines and Chimbonda providing the width. Kav, Bullard and others in midfield could play and looked forward, not sideways.2. The period under Bruce with Scharner/Bramble at the back, Valencia down the right, Palacios down middle and Heskey/Zaki up front. I watched that season review again recently and I had forgotten how effective that team was, playing pretty decent football.
Both those teams played way more effective and attractive football than Bobbys, because they had more forward intent.
Just keep Allardyce away.
Of course Bob is testing our patience at the moment but I believe we will come out of this an more exciting and successful team – within limits. If it means relegation that’s the way it goes.
Do you really believe we will come out more successful under Martinez?
In the 18 months or so he has been in charge we have gone backwards. Never since we have been in the Prem have we looked as lost for ideas when going forward. Under Bruce we looked like we could have sneaked into a European place if we could have kept hold of our better playersOf course Bob is testing our patience at the moment but I believe we will come out of this an more exciting and successful team – within limits. If it means relegation that’s the way it goes.
Do you really believe we will come out more successful under Martinez?
In the 18 months or so he has been in charge we have gone backwards. Never since we have been in the Prem have we looked as lost for ideas when going forward. Under Bruce we looked like we could have sneaked into a European place if we could have kept hold of our better playersWhether we come out of it more successful or not, I would not want Sam Allardyce at our club.
If Bob was to go, there are far better alternatives out there.Quite how anybody can say this:
“Of course Bob is testing our patience at the moment but I believe we will come out of this an more exciting and successful team”
then this:
“If you seriously want Allardyce you know nothing about football.”
and finally this:
“Blinkers off”
and keep a straight face is beyond me
Of course Bob is testing our patience at the moment but I believe we will come out of this an more exciting and successful team – within limits. If it means relegation that’s the way it goes.
Do you really believe we will come out more successful under Martinez?
In the 18 months or so he has been in charge we have gone backwards. Never since we have been in the Prem have we looked as lost for ideas when going forward. Under Bruce we looked like we could have sneaked into a European place if we could have kept hold of our better playersWhether we come out of it more successful or not, I would not want Sam Allardyce at our club.
If Bob was to go, there are far better alternatives out there.[/quote]Personal opinion but I would be interested to know how many tried & tested premier league managers there are available out there with a track record for progressing their club’s on a shoe string budget
“Personal opinion but I would be interested to know how many tried & tested premier league managers there are available out there with a track record for progressing their club’s on a shoe string budget”
Apart from Allardyce, who I don’t want anywhere near our club, I can immediately think of two in that criteria who are ready and available
Curbishley – took a small club to a few top 10 finishes with little cash. Look where they are now.
O’Neill – did wonders on little cash at Leicester including a major trophy. May think he is too big for us now though.
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