Bob please stop

EXCELLENT thread fellow tics men, lets hope it ends here and doesn’t get hijacked by some moaning, grumpy, gloomy darkside twort..

No you don’t – losing as much face as possible is exactly what you want Roberto to do

Well said

We are all in this together. Sick and tired of the same supposed fans rolling out the same old crappy lines every week. We played well yesterday in spite of some of the biggest refereeing errors Ive ever seen.
Denied a pen, changed the formation and 5 players from the Wolves game, 2nd Blackburn goal was a farce, then NINE minutes injury time.. NINE?!?

Then you read this muck and its all Caldwells fault or Bobbys fault..

This place is full of people desperate to be proved right if/when we go down.

Worst fans in the country by a country mile.

Too many fans still gloss over the individual errors the players in the team are making but Roberto’s job is to coach these out of them. If the same players keep making the same mistakes then that’s a massive downfall of a coaching team.

Every game we have lost this year has had a massive contribution from our own stupid errors, it just so happens yesterday we managed to get a foothold in the game and score 3 goals to cover some of the shockers we are making every single week. If you look at us now 1/3 of the way through the season, we seem to make 2 howlers a game consistently so now do we have to score 3 to even have a chance of getting anything? It seems so.

people moan that MOTD look down their noses at us, that rival fans scoff at our crowds, that the media never talk up our achievements..

why should they when our own fans right us off so soon into the season.
we are on an awful run. confidence is low and some of our defending as been embarrassing..

BUT, the club needs their fans. they need us behind them for every minute of every match.

some of the crap spouted on here by people who claim to love the club is pointless/ridiculous/and quite frankly, boring. if your a fan, act like one.

we played well yesterday. lets try and take that into the next match and see if we can snatch a point or three.

Phil, you and the rest of your lot are like a broken fucking record, mate.

None of us thinks we’re a particularly good team. None of us thinks that Roberto is the best manager if the world. None of us is under any illusion that this current form is relegation form and there is a better than even chance we will, finally, go down this season.

None of us would be too unhappy if Whelan ditched his pragmatic financial strategy and went out and bought a couple of world class defenders on about £80k a week, and none of us would object greatly if the FA opened up the transfer window a little but early to allow him do it as soon as possible. But it isn’t going to happen is it, so we’re stuck with what we’ve got.

We also know that Whelan’s oft-stated intention is that he will not sack Roberto so, whether you like it or not, you’re stuck with him too. It’s therefore moot whether another manager would fare any better with this set of players and therefore pointless to continually post “Martinez Out” or “Sack him now” because it looks like it simply isn’t going to happen.

So, as fans, you, I and everyone else has a choice.

We can get behind the team and the club and try to help them to survive this predicament, however remote a possibility that might seem at the moment.

Or, we can simply spend the time slagging off the manager, bringing up the same ineptitudes over and over again, forgetting that we are merely a collection of IT Project Managers, window cleaners (no disrespect), fishermen, doleites, students and other assorted dickheads who have not the first idea of how to run a professional football club*

I know my place and how I can best help my club, so I’ll go with option A. You carry on as you see fit.

* I’ve opened a book on who will be the first one to respond with “neither does Martinez”

Phil, you and the rest of your lot are like a broken fucking record, mate.

None of us thinks we’re a particularly good team. None of us thinks that Roberto is the best manager if the world. None of us is under any illusion that this current form is relegation form and there is a better than even chance we will, finally, go down this season.

None of us would be too unhappy if Whelan ditched his pragmatic financial strategy and went out and bought a couple of world class defenders on about £80k a week, and none of us would object greatly if the FA opened up the transfer window a little but early to allow him do it as soon as possible. But it isn’t going to happen is it, so we’re stuck with what we’ve got.

We also know that Whelan’s oft-stated intention is that he will not sack Roberto so, whether you like it or not, you’re stuck with him too. It’s therefore moot whether another manager would fare any better with this set of players and therefore pointless to continually post “Martinez Out” or “Sack him now” because it looks like it simply isn’t going to happen.

So, as fans, you, I and everyone else has a choice.

We can get behind the team and the club and try to help them to survive this predicament, however remote a possibility that might seem at the moment.

Or, we can simply spend the time slagging off the manager, bringing up the same ineptitudes over and over again, forgetting that we are merely a collection of IT Project Managers, window cleaners (no disrespect), fishermen, doleites, students and other assorted dickheads who have not the first idea of how to run a professional football club*

I know my place and how I can best help my club, so I’ll go with option A. You carry on as you see fit.

* I’ve opened a book on who will be the first one to respond with “neither does Martinez”[/quote]

So what your saying Griff is that we should make do with what we have? Sorry Griff but sometimes a change at a club works wonders and lets have it right even if the change was a disaster how could it be worse?

Should that not be on the none football forum???

Do you practice at not understanding things you read or does it come naturally?

If you take my contention that HE IS NOT GOING TO BE SACKED as a given, and you may as well because Whelan says it is so, then it is a complete and utter waste of energy to even bother debating or asking for it to happen.