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The media in Argentina say that Boselli has been offered to San Lorenzo on a six-month loan in January.
They can’t afford to sign him permanently so I guess the plan is for him to go back home, bang in a few goals, in the hope that some Spanish team decides to take a chance on him and take him off our hands in the summer so we get some of our money back.
Must mean we are looking to get another striker in though :?
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Surely this should bring into serious question our manager’s judgement if this story is true
From what I can gather Boselli was scouted for a long time & this culminated in John Benson reporting back that he didn’t think Boselli would fit into Martinez’s system and/or adapt to the British game & that Whelan shouldn’t buy him.
Martinez by all accounts then kicks up the mother of all stinks & insists he knows what he’s talking about, he’s the manager & he should be given a club record some to buy him. Benson leaves the club
Now I know every manager buys their fair share of stinkers from Alex Ferguson & Arsene Wenger with loads fo money to the Kenny Swain’s of this world who had none but come on I see the alleged activity of Martinez over this transfer as very much staking his reputation on him & it would appear that he has bombed & that the club is looking to ship him out (I read in a sunday paper that he was gonna go out to the UAE on loan) & its not simply a case of needing time to adaptOn top of that he’s spent a total of £12mill on 3 strikers in the 18 months he’s been here. 1 has already been shipped out, the club appear to be looking to ship another one out & the 3rd has yet to score for us & with a top flight record of 1 goal in about 40 games doesn’t look like he will any time soon.
Its a bad record from a significant amount of money investedI find it rather a shame if these stories are correct as we clearly haven’t played the kind of football likely to get the best out of him.
I suspect, however, that much of Boselli’s problems have stemmed from him not being able to adapt to the rigours of the Premier League. He is not the most robust of strikers and the pace of the Premier League is unlike any in world football.
I think he would probably score a lot of goals in La Liga though.
He is just the type of player who could feed off a big man. I think if he was playing off big Emile he would be banging the goals in. But he isn’t and as the lone prong in our attack he doesn’t stand a chance
i think its more a case of the system he is being asked to play in – The Argentinian league may not be played at the pace the premier league is but it can be very physical
At times (very brief ones) I think he’s looked like he could be a decent player but its painfully obvious that he doesn’t have the attributes to play as a lone striker. That should be clear to anyone who has even a smidgin of footballing knowledgeBut it wasn’t to Martinez when he made his stand over the player & who he ultimately spent a massive chunk of Latics very small transfer budget on him
Surely this should bring into serious question our manager’s judgement if this story is trueFrom what I can gather Boselli was scouted for a long time & this culminated in John Benson reporting back that he didn’t think Boselli would fit into Martinez’s system and/or adapt to the British game & that Whelan shouldn’t buy him.
Martinez by all accounts then kicks up the mother of all stinks & insists he knows what he’s talking about, he’s the manager & he should be given a club record some to buy him. Benson leaves the club
Now I know every manager buys their fair share of stinkers from Alex Ferguson & Arsene Wenger with loads fo money to the Kenny Swain’s of this world who had none but come on I see the alleged activity of Martinez over this transfer as very much staking his reputation on him & it would appear that he has bombed & that the club is looking to ship him out (I read in a sunday paper that he was gonna go out to the UAE on loan) & its not simply a case of needing time to adaptOn top of that he’s spent a total of £12mill on 3 strikers in the 18 months he’s been here. 1 has already been shipped out, the club appear to be looking to ship another one out & the 3rd has yet to score for us & with a top flight record of 1 goal in about 40 games doesn’t look like he will any time soon.
Its a bad record from a significant amount of money investedI think there has to be a serious amount of truth in this story. I got translations from four different papers.
In terms of Martinez’s judgements, it is true his signings in terms of strikers has so far not proved to be good. What baffles me is that he is determined to play a certain way, so if that is the case why are we signing poachers (which is what Boselli and Scotland are) when we need to be going for an all-action centre forward who can link up the play as well as bang in the odd goal.
If we had someone like Heskey, I am convinced we could make this system work as he used to take up the attentions of both centre halves and was great at bringing others into the game. Okay his scoring record wasn’t great, but at least we looked like scoring with him in the team.
The trouble is, we are looking for this type of player by shopping in the bargain basement and it is not going to come off more often than not because of this.
I noted with interest that one of our reported signings from last January, Marco Ruben has been a regular for Villareal and has been scoring a few goals, so I’m sure Martinez can spot a good player – it’s getting the right player who can perform in our system and also in the Premier League.
All good points.
Perhaps it is the player who has personally been unable to settle in England and wants to leave, regardless of what style of football we play.
Not saying it is, just a possibility that’s all.
But it wasn’t to Martinez when he made his stand over the player & who he ultimately spent a massive chunk of Latics very small transfer budget on himI agree that £6m for us is a lot of money, but plenty of other managers have spent big money on players who don’t work out.
Although I think Martinez may have ultimately got this transfer wrong, we could just have easily been saying ”wow” what a player had Boselli made the same start as Zaki. We would then be dreaming of selling him on for a big profit to keep our club ticking over.
That was what I was hoping for when we signed him in the summer, which was why I was keeping such a close eye on his transfer and posted, admittedly bull’s poo translations, on this site.
The trouble is, we are Wigan and we have to take a punt with players. I’m afraid we have become all too good at plucking players from obscurity and turning them into top level players making a quick buck in the process.
Unfortunately, I think most of us think we should be doing that will all our signings but it just doesn’t work like that.
Beat me to it Griff…
I’d be very surprised if the decision to ship him out is Martinez’s otherwise he is merely compromising his own position and I don’t see him as the type of man to do this.
I’d have thought it more likely that Boselli has spat is dummy out at not playing regularly or can’t settle in the UK, and his agent is now trying to engineer a move.
I agree about the settling in issue and indeed the spitting of the dummy.
In one of the stories I read, it also mentioned the possibility of him going to Zaragoza or Deportivo, which for me would be a better option as at least we may be able to get some of our money back.
Maybe we could see a cunning swap deal with a striker who has that extra bit of physicality? ;)
Or maybe Picsu is involved somewhere along the line :lol:
I agree about the settling in issue and indeed the spitting of the dummy.In one of the stories I read, it also mentioned the possibility of him going to Zaragoza or Deportivo, which for me would be a better option as at least we may be able to get some of our money back.
Maybe we could see a cunning swap deal with a striker who has that extra bit of physicality? ;)
Or maybe Picsu is involved somewhere along the line :lol:
Bloody Piscu! What’s the latest on him? Is he still living in a secret hideaway in the Wigan Borough?
Piscu is still hiding in the Wrightingdon I think. No update on this one.
It has all gone quiet because we will wrap up some kind of compensation deal with Deportivo when the window reopens – just watch!
Don’t worry though, as soon as I get an update I will post it on here together with another masterclass in interpretation :lol:
I don’t doubt for a second that him not settling or spitting his dummy out at not playing could well be the major reasons for the rumours now surfacing about him moving on
If they are the reasons however it still doesn’t alter the main issues I’ve highlighted above – in my opinion at least
He wouldn’t be spitting any dummy out if he was playing regularly. To be playing regularly he’d need to be able to adapt to Bobby’s system & be scoring goals. He’s doing neither so it doesn’t answer how someone who is convinced 1 up front is the correct (& only) way to play can spend so much money on someone who quite clearly isn’t suited to playing in that system. You can even at a push forgive the signing of Scotland in respect because at least he’d been successful in playing that system for him in the past (whether a 30 odd year old journeyman who’d never played in the top flight was ever likely to be a success is another matter)On top of that, the only players you ever hear about having trouble “settling” are those who aren’t being a great success at their new clubs
As I’ve said I know all manager’s can spend money on duds but the basic flaw in Boselli should have (and were obvious to some) been obvious prior to him signing – that they don’t appear to have been & that the club now seems prepared to move him on reflects very, very badly on Bobby IMO
I think it will all be forgotten about if he can ship out Boselli and replace him with someone decent. Let’s wait and see. For all we know Boselli might start against Wolves and get a hat-trick ;)
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