BY “relatively cheap”, do you mean the same price that our lodgers payed for thier Cup final.
£22 for adults and £9 for kids is pretty damn cheap for a football game, which is the usual excuse trotted out for the lack of away following. Spurs on a Tuesday night £40+, and travel etc – I get it why only 100 turned up, but its Bolton on a Saturday afternoon at £22. Its about £3 on the bus or train, and its a massive game, then I’d have expected more than 1900 to pitch up – wasnt there 4,000 at Blackburn last season? Or maybe my expectations are too high.
I dont see what prices for the rugby have to do with only selling 1900 relatively cheap tickets for a huge fixture. Unless you are saying that people would rather not go to Bolton because they have a cheap ST for the rugby and would rather be there. I didnt realise the 10,000 or so fans that havent got their ticket for the Bolton game were all ST holders for the Warriors!
Maybe the Egg (as a supporter of both clubs) will be along soon to tell us where he is spending his Saturday?
I presume we only asked for 1900 tickets, ie one tier. The way it sometimes works is if you ask for the rest of the allocation and don’t sell them, you have to pay for them all anyway. We would NOT have sold 4000 tickets.
This is what happened with Stoke away last season.
I presume we only asked for 1900 tickets, ie one tier. The way it sometimes works is if you ask for the rest of the allocation and don’t sell them, you have to pay for them all anyway. We would NOT have sold 4000 tickets.
This is what happened with Stoke away last season.
Visiting teams are entitled to 10% of the capacity or 3,000 if the capacity is more than 30,000, with half of that being sale or return. If you ask for more than that the remainder have to be bought by the club, so they have to ensure they will sell or be out of pocket.
“7. Unless otherwise agreed by the Board or between the Clubs, each Home Club shall make
available to its Visiting Club:
7.1 3,000 tickets or, if the capacity of the Home Club’s ground is less than 30,000, such
number of tickets as is equal to 10 per cent. of its ground capacity; and, whether or not
that allocation is taken up,
7.2 tickets for a minimum of 10 per cent. of the Home Club’s disabled spectator
accommodation.
8. At least half of the tickets referred to in Rule J.7 above must be made available on a sale or
return basis and the balance must be ordered by the Visiting Club (subject to the conditions
set out in Rule C.100) at least 4 weeks before the League Match to which they relate.”
(Premier League Handbook)
I presume we only asked for 1900 tickets, ie one tier. The way it sometimes works is if you ask for the rest of the allocation and don’t sell them, you have to pay for them all anyway. We would NOT have sold 4000 tickets.
This is what happened with Stoke away last season.
Visiting teams are entitled to 10% of the capacity or 3,000 if the capacity is more than 30,000, with half of that being sale or return. If you ask for more than that the remainder have to be bought by the club, so they have to ensure they will sell or be out of pocket.
“7. Unless otherwise agreed by the Board or between the Clubs, each Home Club shall make
available to its Visiting Club:
7.1 3,000 tickets or, if the capacity of the Home Club’s ground is less than 30,000, such
number of tickets as is equal to 10 per cent. of its ground capacity; and, whether or not
that allocation is taken up,
7.2 tickets for a minimum of 10 per cent. of the Home Club’s disabled spectator
accommodation.
8. At least half of the tickets referred to in Rule J.7 above must be made available on a sale or
return basis and the balance must be ordered by the Visiting Club (subject to the conditions
set out in Rule C.100) at least 4 weeks before the League Match to which they relate.”
(Premier League Handbook)[/quote]
so, based on a capacity of 28,000 we should be able to get 2,800 tickets without fear of having to sell any more than 1,400 (that figure already passed);
if the bottom tier is 1,900 we should be able to get 900 tickets for the upper tier on a pay or return basis
then, if the top tier was open anyway, if more than 2,800 were to turn up (which they won’t) they could easily have a pay gate for anybody without tickets
so, based on a capacity of 28,000 we should be able to get 2,800 tickets without fear of having to sell any more than 1,400 (that figure already passed);
if the bottom tier is 1,900 we should be able to get 900 tickets for the upper tier on a pay or return basis
then, if the top tier was open anyway, if more than 2,800 were to turn up (which they won’t) they could easily have a pay gate for anybody without tickets
Simples !!
Although something tells me that is far too logical to actually happen.
If those rules still apply or clubs abide by them we should have had 2800 tickets on a sale or return for the Stoke game last season but we didn’t. The club released a statement saying they took a small allocation as they would have had to pay for the rest even if they didn’t sell.
We always take a reduced allocation of tickets for all away games.
BY “relatively cheap”, do you mean the same price that our lodgers payed for thier Cup final.
£22 for adults and £9 for kids is pretty damn cheap for a football game, which is the usual excuse trotted out for the lack of away following. Spurs on a Tuesday night £40+, and travel etc – I get it why only 100 turned up, but its Bolton on a Saturday afternoon at £22. Its about £3 on the bus or train, and its a massive game, then I’d have expected more than 1900 to pitch up – wasnt there 4,000 at Blackburn last season? Or maybe my expectations are too high.
I dont see what prices for the rugby have to do with only selling 1900 relatively cheap tickets for a huge fixture. Unless you are saying that people would rather not go to Bolton because they have a cheap ST for the rugby and would rather be there. I didnt realise the 10,000 or so fans that havent got their ticket for the Bolton game were all ST holders for the Warriors!
Maybe the Egg (as a supporter of both clubs) will be along soon to tell us where he is spending his Saturday?[/quote]
I think you’ll find that being bottom of the league has something to do with it as well. This should be obvious to you as a rugby fan seeing as when Wigan RLFC were bottom of the league there were struggling to get 3,000 on AT HOME most weekends.
If those rules still apply or clubs abide by them we should have had 2800 tickets on a sale or return for the Stoke game last season but we didn’t. The club released a statement saying they took a small allocation as they would have had to pay for the rest even if they didn’t sell.
We always take a reduced allocation of tickets for all away games.
Sorry but there seems to be a misunderstanding here.
With a 28,000 stadium we can ask for up to 2,800.
If you read the Handbook that I posted above a half, that is 1,400, are on a sale or return basis – the remainder have to be bought up front by the visiting team 4 weeks in advance – they are not sale or return. If they don’t sell then we are left with them on our hands.
Roberto Martinez has reported a clean bill of health for his squad ahead of the game with everybody fit and available. Antolin Alcaraz sat on the bench for last week’s game against Everton along with Mohamed Diame who had only just return from the African Cup of Nations. The Paraguayan defender and Senegal midfielder could provide a much need spark to turnaround the team’s fortunes.