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    not that anyone needs to be clever to do a good job – look at martinez.

    Now, that’s a clever answer, LB ;) [/quote][/size]

    it was meant to be a sarcastic quip – you lot seem to think hes doing a good job and i dont think hes very bright,actually he could well be bright its just he is not very good at his job.

    #22506

    My question to Loudmouth is, whatever your opinion of Martinez and those who support him, during the first half against Stoke, would you still stand by your opinion that we are a long ball team?

    watch a replay of the second half all we did -or caldwell and bramble did was hoof it,or give it straight to a stoke player.[/quote]
    Second half, maybe. We are all agreed that it was poor.

    Now, back to the question……during the first half against Stoke, would you still stand by your opinion that we are a long ball team?

    #22507
    MickyCMike
    Player

      My question to Loudmouth is, whatever your opinion of Martinez and those who support him, during the first half against Stoke, would you still stand by your opinion that we are a long ball team?

      watch a replay of the second half all we did -or caldwell and bramble did was hoof it,or give it straight to a stoke player.[/quote]
      Second half, maybe. We are all agreed that it was poor.

      Now, back to the question……during the first half against Stoke, would you still stand by your opinion that we are a long ball team?[/quote]

      Wow…this is a first for me.

      In support of fair debate (and shared opinions), I watched in awe the statistic on SSN about the ‘long ball’ game and thought about………well you all know the rest. I could not believe that we are THIRD, yes 3RD, in that statistical league.

      Look at “itownvillan”s post that confirms what I saw/heard on tv.

      http://www.myfootballforum.com/showthread.php?p=421893

      I can’t help knowing what I know……….and I know it it ‘goes against some people’s grain’, however, the figures show a different story.

      Sorry guys……………..I remain fair in all debate.

      #22509

      We may have been dragged into a long ball game in the secodn half because the midfield didnt want the ball, the amount of times when the ball went into midfield, without looking to turn they played the ball straight back. Bramble and Caldwell had little option.

      #22514

      it was meant to be a sarcastic quip – you lot seem to think hes doing a good job and i dont think hes very bright,actually he could well be bright its just he is not very good at his job.

      Yes, I know it was. We also know how you feel. You’ve told us so a milion times. No real need to come on saying exactly the same things, dropped point after dropped point.

      Just because some of us are prepared to give him time to rectify some of the shortcomings he undoubtedly has doesn’t make us all imbeciles and you Guus Hiddink.

      #22517

      Interesting stat Micky.

      I posted one the other week which showed Wigan as having one of the highest passes completed averages.

      Without splitting hairs, have they perhaps taken both long passes and long balls (there is a difference – one is aimed at a team mate, and the other is a hopeful punt into an area of the pitch) to try and prove a point?

      I’d hardly put Liverpool or Spurs into the long ball team category.

      #22523
      MickyCMike
      Player
        Interesting stat Micky.

        I posted one the other week which showed Wigan as having one of the highest passes completed averages.

        Without splitting hairs, have they perhaps taken both long passes and long balls (there is a difference – one is aimed at a team mate, and the other is a hopeful punt into an area of the pitch) to try and prove a point?

        I’d hardly put Liverpool or Spurs into the long ball team category.

        Thank you Mr Walker…

        I did indeed feel a little ‘uncomfortable’ with that statistic. However, after further investigation I now find that it is based on passes over 30 yards.

        Well there you go………………SSN will dress up their figures/stats (just like any other ‘redtop’ I suppose) to suit their own agenda.

        Hey Ho! We live and learn. I feel a little better now ;) phew!

        #22529

        I’d never manipulate figures to try and prove a point. ;)

        #22530
        MickyCMike
        Player
          I’d never manipulate figures to try and prove a point. ;)

          I know what you mean…………

          …………..for instance have you also noticed how the world’s getting warmer. ;)

          #22532

          …and to paraphrase Vic Reeves, 65.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.

          #22546
          SammySammy
          Player
            …and to paraphrase Vic Reeves, 65.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.

            It was 88.2% actually.
            If you’re going to quote statistics at least get them right.

            #22549

            …and to paraphrase Vic Reeves, 65.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.

            It was 88.2% actually.
            If you’re going to quote statistics at least get them right.[/quote]
            Hence the word paraphrase.

            I do hope that was tongue in cheek Sammy.

            #22551

            I do hope that was tongue in cheek Sammy.

            Probably. 56.4% of the time Sammy is tongue-in-cheek ;)

            #22552
            SammySammy
            Player

              I do hope that was tongue in cheek Sammy.

              Probably. 56.4% of the time Sammy is tongue-in-cheek ;) [/quote]
              56.399% actually!

              #22553

              Glad you weren’t being serious. We already have enough pedants on this site, allegedly.

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