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Sorry for being a web site cut and paste job, but worth making the point…..
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/03/wigan-athletic-ticket-prices
Wigan have sixth-cheapest season ticket of all 92 English clubs, Only Accrington, Bradford, Hereford, Crewe, Port Vale cheaper.
Wigan Athletic offer the sixth-cheapest season ticket of all 92 English professional clubs, according to a magazine survey. The Premier League club’s most expensive season ticket for the 2010-11 season comes in at £295, with only Accrington Stanley, Bradford City, Hereford United, Crewe Alexandra and Port Vale coming out cheaper in the FourFourTwo report.
Arsenal offer the most expensive season ticket in the country at £1,825, with the most expensive single ticket for a match at the Emirates costing £94.
Championship side Ipswich Town’s most expensive season ticket was more than the equivalent at Newcastle or Manchester United.
Six most expensive season tickets
1 Arsenal £1,825
2 Tottenham Hotspur £1,695
3 Chelsea £1,210
4 Ipswich Town £1,001
5 Newcastle United £975
6 Manchester United £931
Six least expensive season tickets
1 Accrington Stanley £230
2 Bradford City £250
3 Hereford Town £270
4 Crewe Alexandra £285
5 Port Vale £289
6 Wigan Athletic £295
Thought it was worth pointing out in the recent ticket price discussions, that Wigan fans do expect more than the world of football can offer. !
Yep, you do wonder how cheap the club actually have to make it to attract people.They’d have to pay fans to come at watch, and even then most would stay in the concourse :lol:
I was having this discussion with a contractor who came into work last Friday & is a Latics fan.
As well as simply blaming the Wigan public for being apathetic, lazy and/or just plain tight (& Bobby’s “style” of football) we both agreed that there were 2 reasons/decisions taken by the club that have had a massive repercussion on the crowds Latics get & it’d be interesting to know what other people think:
1) The decision in the summer of 1996 to hoik up the matchday ticket prices to as much as £35 under the excuse that “this is what most other clubs charge”. I think just at the time that Latics following had reached unprecedented levels & could have kicked on that this knocked a good couple of thousand off our regular attendance & it killed the upward momentum in crowds stone dead. Both myself & the contractor knew directly of people who had started to come in that first premier league season who just turned round & flatly refused to pay the much of a price hike – and they’ve never been back.
2) The decision made by Whelan in January 2009 to order Steve Bruce to dismantle his team, the public declaration that “all our players are available” and the further declarations that “we’ve achieved our sole aim of staying up we need to get the funds in now to build up next season’s squad” & the less than subtle insinuation that that would be our sole aim from then on in. Again, excitement was building up, Latics were 7th & looking good for a possible challenge for Europe, everyone started talking about the next level, other clubs, fans & even the media were praising our players & (IMO) we were playing some decent stuff.
In one fell swoop it crushed alot of people’s ambitions for the club (as unrealistic as they may have been), turned some former regulars away & so I assume turned any new punters away. Who wants to follow a club with no ambition??
That one in particular still sticks in my throat – i can understand Latics needing to sell players to survive & rebuild but I can see no reason why the decision was made that it had to be doen at that time. Palacios could still have gone for big money in the summer as Valencia (whi the club also tried to sell from what I can gather) did & the money we received for Heskey was pretty much what the club lost in prize money for slipping from 7th to 11th. Not to mention the signal that it sent out to our manager & the players whose form noticeably dipped post January1) The decision in the summer of 1996 to hoik up the matchday ticket prices to as much as £35 under the excuse that “this is what most other clubs charge”. I think just at the time that Latics following had reached unprecedented levels & could have kicked on that this knocked a good couple of thousand off our regular attendance & it killed the upward momentum in crowds stone dead. Both myself & the contractor knew directly of people who had started to come in that first premier league season who just turned round & flatly refused to pay the much of a price hike – and they’ve never been back.Sorry, can’t agree. Although I agree with what you say about ticket prices in 1996 (though surely you mean 2006?) the fact remains that today they are comparatively ridiculously cheap and anyone who doesn’t come because they used to be expensive is, quite frankly in my book, fishing for an excuse.
That’s like saying I’m not buying a laptop for £400 because they used to be £2000.
2) The decision made by Whelan in January 2009 to order Steve Bruce to dismantle his team, the public declaration that “all our players are available” and the further declarations that “we’ve achieved our sole aim of staying up we need to get the funds in now to build up next season’s squad” & the less than subtle insinuation that that would be our sole aim from then on in. Again, excitement was building up, Latics were 7th & looking good for a possible challenge for Europe, everyone started talking about the next level, other clubs, fans & even the media were praising our players & (IMO) we were playing some decent stuff.
In one fell swoop it crushed alot of people’s ambitions for the club (as unrealistic as they may have been), turned some former regulars away & so I assume turned any new punters away. Who wants to follow a club with no ambition??I am prepared to bow to your superior memory but I do not recall Whelan saying that “all our players are available” and if even if he did, when did we start believing what Whelan says?
And again, I don’t know for a fact (but neither, probably, does anyone else on this forum) but I believe that Heskey wanted to go when he did and would have gone for nothing in the summer anyway and, presumably, the Tottenham money was on the table at the time that Palacios left and that Palacios himself wanted to go then. As you say, Valencia stayed until the summer.
Back to the point of ambition, where do these ‘fans’ who say the club lacks ambition realistically think we could/should be?
Having seen the club accounts as we all have, because they’ve been posted or alluded to numerous times on this forum in recent times, what would be the financial state of the club now had we not raked in around £2m(?) for Heskey, £12 for Palacios and £16m for Valencia?
The fact ticket prices were £35 in 2006 has got nothing to do with our current cr^p crowds.
We just don’t have many supporters I’m afraid. I’ve said this before but our tickets are cheaper than those down here at Swindon Town and they are playing League 1 football!
Aside from our poor fan base, there is also a lot of supporter apathy around at the moment and you can see that from the number of empty seats at grounds around the country.
To be honest who can blame fans for staying away when you see these overpaid prima donnas strolling around on the pitch and then the next day tales of how they have been shagging around are in the Sunday papers. They are hardly role models and England’s poor showing in the World Cup hardly endeared them to the football public.
But back to Latics, our crowds have hit a level (12k ish) and we won’t get bigger home support this season until we start climbing the league, scoring goals and playing winning football. I’m sure though that in a few years’ time we will start to see our fan base increasing as the next generation come through – my son being one of them.
We are a young club and it takes time to grow.1) The decision in the summer of 1996 to hoik up the matchday ticket prices to as much as £35 under the excuse that “this is what most other clubs charge”. I think just at the time that Latics following had reached unprecedented levels & could have kicked on that this knocked a good couple of thousand off our regular attendance & it killed the upward momentum in crowds stone dead. Both myself & the contractor knew directly of people who had started to come in that first premier league season who just turned round & flatly refused to pay the much of a price hike – and they’ve never been back.
Sorry, can’t agree. Although I agree with what you say about ticket prices in 1996 (though surely you mean 2006?) the fact remains that today they are comparatively ridiculously cheap and anyone who doesn’t come because they used to be expensive is, quite frankly in my book, fishing for an excuse.
That’s like saying I’m not buying a laptop for £400 because they used to be £2000.[/quote]
I think people must have a problem with football in general as ticket prices have gone up over time, they should see Latics as making a positive effort by keeping them so low.
I wonder if people complain about everything going up in price?
The fact ticket prices were £35 in 2006 has got nothing to do with our current cr^p crowds.We just don’t have many supporters I’m afraid. I’ve said this before but our tickets are cheaper than those down here at Swindon Town and they are playing League 1 football!
Aside from our poor fan base, there is also a lot of supporter apathy around at the moment and you can see that from the number of empty seats at grounds around the country.
To be honest who can blame fans for staying away when you see these overpaid prima donnas strolling around on the pitch and then the next day tales of how they have been shagging around are in the Sunday papers. They are hardly role models and England’s poor showing in the World Cup hardly endeared them to the football public.
But back to Latics, our crowds have hit a level (12k ish) and we won’t get bigger home support this season until we start climbing the league, scoring goals and playing winning football. I’m sure though that in a few years’ time we will start to see our fan base increasing as the next generation come through – my son being one of them.
We are a young club and it takes time to grow.It will take a new generation of kids to come through, which is why we need to give free tickets away to encourage them….
It will take a new generation of kids to come through, which is why we need to give free tickets away to encourage them….Am I right in thinking that away fans have to be charged the same as home fans? In which case, if we let home kids in for nowt, don’t we have to do the same with away kids?
It’s clear we are nowhere near filling our stadium every week so why don’t we look at our pricing structure for juniors?
I know the Junior Stripes membership means a significant reduction, but why don’t we go further and introduce a quid a kid offer until the end of the season? It would be a bit unfair on those mums and dads who have bought season tickets for their children, but think of the benefits it would bring to the club and the team playing in a significantly fuller stadium, while trying to hook our fans of the future?
With my professional hat on, it would be great PR for the club.
can’t beleive all these ‘reasons’. some do add to the problem of course.
but THE main reason is…………….
football live in pubs.
simple. :roll:
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