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  • #55003

    Now come on, I’m not having that you didn’t get the point of my post

    #55007
    MickyCMike
    Player
      i should now start to give you loads of abuse and call you a bald headed big mouthed opinionated no nothing rant about nothing swear word to get my 2011 points up …. ….. would that be okay with you to get my 2011 point scoring up a bit :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

      What we need, for the picky ones, would be a series of awards; how about:

      British Independant Forum posts (February)
      Golden Globe Forum writer (April)
      Writers Guild of Wigan forums (June)
      BAFTA Forum awards (August)
      Academy Award for best post (October)

      and for the grand finale…..

      ……Let’s drink at the Cannes festival to celebrate the OSCAR of all posts for the year (December)

      There……it can become an “everybody gets a medal day” at school.

      Oh! are you bald Mr Griff? and I thought it was a fashion statement. Silly me…… ;)

      #55010

      i should now start to give you loads of abuse and call you a bald headed big mouthed opinionated no nothing rant about nothing swear word to get my 2011 points up …. ….. would that be okay with you to get my 2011 point scoring up a bit :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

      What we need, for the picky ones, would be a series of awards; how about:

      British Independant Forum posts (February)
      Golden Globe Forum writer (April)
      Writers Guild of Wigan forums (June)
      BAFTA Forum awards (August)
      Academy Award for best post (October)

      and for the grand finale…..

      ……Let’s drink at the Cannes festival to celebrate the OSCAR of all posts for the year (December)

      There……it can become an “everybody gets a medal day” at school.

      Oh! are you bald Mr Griff? and I thought it was a fashion statement. Silly me…… ;) [/quote]
      How about a batman of the year award Micky?

      I’m not sure about a Cannes festival. A Cansfield festival might be more achievable.

      #55011
      MickyCMike
      Player

        What we need, for the picky ones, would be a series of awards; how about:

        British Independant Forum posts (February)
        Golden Globe Forum writer (April)
        Writers Guild of Wigan forums (June)
        BAFTA Forum awards (August)
        Academy Award for best post (October)

        and for the grand finale…..

        ……Let’s drink at the Cannes festival to celebrate the OSCAR of all posts for the year (December)

        There……it can become an “everybody gets a medal day” at school.

        Oh! are you bald Mr Griff? and I thought it was a fashion statement. Silly me…… ;)

        How about a batman of the year award Micky?

        I’m not sure about a Cannes festival. A Cansfield festival might be more achievable.[/quote]

        Splendid idea Sir….

        we could follow it with a Green Hornet award in the Summer..
        …a Spiderman award in September and..
        …a Radioactive Man to coincide with the bestestestest ever poster award at a Cansfield festival….outragious!

        ;)

        #55013

        I find the banter on here very amusing and in truth unlike some other message boards, at least we get differing views and oppinions. Football grabs us all and the passion shown on here makes this a great site. The pro-anti Martinez scenario makes good reading and i find myself sometimes agreeing with both the fabled lightside / darkside brigade. This board gives me hours of entertainment and long may it continue. Keep up the quality posting.

        you did not make the list either and sucking up to both sides will not help pick a side or pick a fight i am not picking on you you but if i was being picky you could be the person i picked on just to pick up some brownie points so i could be picked in the review for next year if you get what i mean but if you do not get what i mean then i am sorry for picking up on this point :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: [/quote]

        I dont suck up to anyone on here jungle my owd tayter if you missed my point then fair enuff but football has and will always be about opinnions and just like our wonderful British weather they can change at the drop of a hat. All i do is read every post and try to either agree or disagree with them and give what i believe to be my honest take on each subject.

        #55022
        jimmytJimmyT
        Player
          but there seems to be room in that world for the onions who brag about the day they stormed the veg rack and gave the leeks and shallots a good kicking

          There was a lot more of those sort of tales in the Cockney Latic fanzine, I should know I edited 46 of them.

          You seem to be criticising one website for posting a certain type of article (in the past) yet you have no problem posting on another website whose fanzine has published exactly the same articles (in the past), very often by the same people.

          If you had complained vociferously at the time when I was editor of the CL about these articles, I would have gladly addressed your concerns.

          You didn’t so to complain about them now makes you a massive hypocrite as well as a liar (which we’ve all previously established)

          #55023
          jimmytJimmyT
          Player
            However, it’s a crying shame that reference to another board brought out comments from the sentinal………..shame really (me thinks there is a self esteem thing going on here).

            And it’s funny how my re-appearance suddenly brings out your re-appearance. ;)

            What can I say Micky, I’m a busy man. I defend my corner though, and believe me I spent many years defending many corners with regards to the Cockney Latic over the years. In print, online or in a social setting, either in the pub, arranging charity events and spending eight hours on a Saturday morning counting, delivering and selling fanzines on a usually freezing bridge. Where were you then Micky, oh staunch defender of the Cockney Latic?

            I have no self esteem issues, I know I’ve put in a decent shift over the years sacrificing hundreds of hours doing something I enjoy and laying a lot of the foundations for making this great site what it is today. No need to thank me though, I know my 2010 contribution was non existent.

            But Kudos to your post, you might call it an exercise in self congratulatory back slapping (as indeed you did when similar stuff appeared on MHM a couple of years ago), but it is in essence a nice bit of recognition for contributors to a particular section of the WAFC online community, or in simpler terms ‘a bit of fun’. No hierarchies, no conspiracies, no talk of generals or foot soldiers, just a bit of fun.

            #55024

            but there seems to be room in that world for the onions who brag about the day they stormed the veg rack and gave the leeks and shallots a good kicking

            There was a lot more of those sort of tales in the Cockney Latic fanzine, I should know I edited 46 of them.

            You seem to be criticising one website for posting a certain type of article (in the past) yet you have no problem posting on another website whose fanzine has published exactly the same articles (in the past), very often by the same people.

            If you had complained vociferously at the time when I was editor of the CL about these articles, I would have gladly addressed your concerns.

            You didn’t so to complain about them now makes you a massive hypocrite as well as a liar (which we’ve all previously established)[/quote]

            the reason i took umbridge to you and your board was an article YOU did having a dig at latics fans for moaning or not turning up -then linked them same fans to fc united fans (who for some reason you and your magazine seem to worship, or at the least have very close links with), when those same fans have done the same,deserting their club, the very same thing you accused some of our fans of doing, perhaps they had different reasons but its still the same, but i am not a closet mufc fan so i dont hold back when it comes to anything about them, i dont hate anything in this life with the exception of all things mufc – fc united or any of their plastic fans.

            this proof of me being a liar stuff was based on a couple of things -i said i was not being lectured to by,and gave you 3 options to choose from chav/stone island wearing/hooligan, the latter being the only statement you took exception to – i pointed out to you that the magazine you edit still had people eulogizing about such past events (your response was a disclaimer spin) to my knowledge no-one on the top floor of CL headquarters take this line any more and if they did i would sound off at them as well.
            if that makes me a liar so be it, but i would have not made any comment in the first place about mudhutter if you had not written your inaccurate,condescending rant about latics fans who dont quite come up to your rather eletist standards.

            #55147
            jimmytJimmyT
            Player
              the reason i took umbridge to you and your board was an article YOU did having a dig at latics fans for moaning or not turning up –then linked them same fans to fc united fans (who for some reason you and your magazine seem to worship, or at the least have very close links with), when those same fans have done the same,deserting their club, the very same thing you accused some of our fans of doing, perhaps they had different reasons but its still the same, but i am not a closet mufc fan so i dont hold back when it comes to anything about them, i dont hate anything in this life with the exception of all things mufc – fc united or any of their plastic fans.

              Ooh a debate on ownership of football clubs and their finances, I’m in mr loudmouth!!

              First of all, you appear to be confused? Are you comparing Wigan Athletic with FC United? Or as it would appear more logical are you are comparing Wigan Athletic with Manchester United? Do you have even the faintest idea why FC United were formed?

              Let’s concentrate on the four key football finance areas of ownership debt, operating profits/losses, servicing interest payments & ticket pricing

              Wigan Athletic is backed by one man whom without him we would be at best playing three or four levels below where we are. He has not got the club into debt – he IS the debt covering the £55m losses with a £40m interest free loan and a £15m bank overdraft secured on his personal land and assets.

              Manchester United have been purchased by nearly £650m of leveraged buyout funds (that’s someone else’s money in layman’s terms) by a bunch of American sharks who draw up to £30m per annum out of the football club in personal funds and have laden the club with £60m of debt interest charges per annum meaning that the likelihood of them making any profit at EBITDA level is nigh impossible.

              The average season ticket price at Old Trafford has increased from £487 in May 2005 to £722 this year, the season tickets in this time at Wigan have increased from £250 to £250, just over half the price that United tickets were five years ago.

              Club saddled with expensive debt while the owners take millions out in drawings and even more debts to service the large interest payments running at 14% of turnover and eating away at profits and expensive ticket prices = unhappy fans

              Interest free loans from owners without which club would be insolvent, covering accumulated losses out of owners own pocket and cheap ticket prices (should) = happy fans

              I don’t see how Wigan Athletic fans have anything to protest about, save for your daily repetitive diatribe against the manager.

              So the situation at Wigan Athletic is nothing like the situation at Manchester United, hope this clears up any confusion.

              PS you may have seen this on here before, I find it easier to copy and paste stuff you’ve previously ignored when you’re dodging the question/changing the subject

              #55149

              the reason i took umbridge to you and your board was an article YOU did having a dig at latics fans for moaning or not turning up –then linked them same fans to fc united fans (who for some reason you and your magazine seem to worship, or at the least have very close links with), when those same fans have done the same,deserting their club, the very same thing you accused some of our fans of doing, perhaps they had different reasons but its still the same, but i am not a closet mufc fan so i dont hold back when it comes to anything about them, i dont hate anything in this life with the exception of all things mufc – fc united or any of their plastic fans.

              Ooh a debate on ownership of football clubs and their finances, I’m in mr loudmouth!!

              First of all, you appear to be confused? Are you comparing Wigan Athletic with FC United? Or as it would appear more logical are you are comparing Wigan Athletic with Manchester United? Do you have even the faintest idea why FC United were formed?

              Let’s concentrate on the four key football finance areas of ownership debt, operating profits/losses, servicing interest payments & ticket pricing

              Wigan Athletic is backed by one man whom without him we would be at best playing three or four levels below where we are. He has not got the club into debt – he IS the debt covering the £55m losses with a £40m interest free loan and a £15m bank overdraft secured on his personal land and assets.

              Manchester United have been purchased by nearly £650m of leveraged buyout funds (that’s someone else’s money in layman’s terms) by a bunch of American sharks who draw up to £30m per annum out of the football club in personal funds and have laden the club with £60m of debt interest charges per annum meaning that the likelihood of them making any profit at EBITDA level is nigh impossible.

              The average season ticket price at Old Trafford has increased from £487 in May 2005 to £722 this year, the season tickets in this time at Wigan have increased from £250 to £250, just over half the price that United tickets were five years ago.

              Club saddled with expensive debt while the owners take millions out in drawings and even more debts to service the large interest payments running at 14% of turnover and eating away at profits and expensive ticket prices = unhappy fans

              Interest free loans from owners without which club would be insolvent, covering accumulated losses out of owners own pocket and cheap ticket prices (should) = happy fans

              I don’t see how Wigan Athletic fans have anything to protest about, save for your daily repetitive diatribe against the manager.

              So the situation at Wigan Athletic is nothing like the situation at Manchester United, hope this clears up any confusion. PS you may have seen this on here before, I find it easier to copy and paste stuff you’ve previously ignored when you’re dodging the question/changing the subject[/quote]
              i told you in the last thing i wrote -i dont give a toss about man utd, fc united or their obnoxious plastic supporters, i really would love them and their “leveraged buyout funds” to rot in hell, but it seems for some reason you who i previously assumed was a WAFC fan seem to have an awful lot to say in support of another club and are also particularly well briefed in their recent history, perhaps you are one of those closet fans i mentioned, it certainly looks that way.

              if you care to look at everything i have wrote on this subject, and remove your red, black & white/green & yellow tinted specs, i took offence at what you wrote about absent latics fans .

              i dont like the fact that people dont turn up to games, but i understand why – this town is still learning about football support – wigan athletic coloured blood is not yet running through people veins, the glory of the premier league has worn thin for alot of people who only dipped their toes in originally and the dreadful boring football, losing nearly every week and games being on their computer or in the sanatised confines of their local pubs will not tempt these semi fans to strip and dive in head first just yet, perhaps on a grand scale that is a feeble excuse but many of these people have not grown up ‘latics fans’.
              then factor in wigan is one of the poorest towns in the whole country who’s biggest supporter profile within the club are family groups in the middle of the worst economic crisis for decades, it is no wonder our crowds are down.

              what you did was slate these “JCL’s” because they dare to moan or express an opinion you dont agree with or even worse choose not go to games or watch in a pub, after all in the fanzine forum world only long standing diehards and those “who forged long standing friendships on away trips” are allowed a say on anything wigan athletic.
              i have no problem with any of that its your opinion, but then you went on to praise fc united fans, true supporters building thier own dream , that made my stomach turn.

              as i have said earlier this is why i even bothered to answer you – these people are man utd fans who for whatever reason deserted their own club as well,and when it stops being fun and when lower league reality sets in they will desert fc united as well.

              all the stuff about the glaziers you have printed is irrelevent – a bunch of world finance speculators(american in this case) have decided to milk a cash cow at the expense of the ordinary man in the street, and got away with it, where was the yellow and green clad protest group when louis edwards or his son martin was doing the same, or the previous board/major share holders,rupert murdock, jp mcmanus or magnier, these people knew how glazier was financing the deal, did they prevent it ? did they hell, they took massive profits and knew full well who would be paying for the vast sums invoved -bugger the fans, those same fans incidently who originally suupported the deal because it would give them back what they saw as their god given status as top dogs, usurping those russian backed cockney upstarts chelsea in the process.

              you asked me “Do you have even the faintest idea why FC United were formed ?
              yes i believe i do,
              in theory for all the reasons you have said, in reality it has become a fashion statement,they are typical man utd fans proud of the fact they are bigger and better than anyone else, they want to out muscle and out spend the non league scene in pursuit of total domination just as their parent club has always sought to do on the national/world stage,in essence bullies who neither care for nor respect any club outside their insular world, their only gripe with the glazier family is, it slows down or even curtails somewhat their pathetic dream of a global empire – and where you and i differ is i dont believe they are fit to be compared in the same breath as ordinary latics fans which you did, not me.

              #55204
              jimmytJimmyT
              Player
                the reason i took umbridge to you and your board was an article YOU did having a dig at latics fans for moaning or not turning up –then linked them same fans to fc united fans (who for some reason you and your magazine seem to worship, or at the least have very close links with), when those same fans have done the same,deserting their club, the very same thing you accused some of our fans of doing, perhaps they had different reasons but its still the same, but i am not a closet mufc fan so i dont hold back when it comes to anything about them, i dont hate anything in this life with the exception of all things mufc – fc united or any of their plastic fans.[/size]

                WRONG

                Here’s the article again http://www.mudhutter.co.uk/news.php?extend.92

                Please show me where I have linked “them”? I haven’t even mentioned FC United in the piece – yet again you’ve been shown up as a liar and taken “umbridge” to something which wasn’t there.

                this proof of me being a liar stuff was based on a couple of things -i said i was not being lectured to by,and gave you 3 options to choose from chav/stone island wearing/hooligan, the latter being the only statement you took exception to – i pointed out to you that the magazine you edit still had people eulogizing about such past events (your response was a disclaimer spin) to my knowledge no-one on the top floor of CL headquarters take this line any more and if they did i would sound off at them as well.
                if that makes me a liar so be it, but i would have not made any comment in the first place about mudhutter if you had not written your inaccurate,condescending rant about latics fans who dont quite come up to your rather eletist standards.

                WRONG

                The latest Mudhutter has articles from two new contributors, one a 19 year old girl from Bury and the other a young man from Kazazhstan. I’ve never met either. Does this sound “eletist” to you? Or are they just people who took the opportunity to give their point of view for a fanzine which continually states that it is open to everybody and proves it by including new contributors more or less every single issue.

                I really don’t know what your grudge is, you seem to be cherry picking a handful of things that may have been written by me or any number of other people over the years a few pages amongst hundreds and were probably no different from many things written in the old Cockney Latic fanzine, in many cases by the person without whom the Cockney Latic website and fanzine would not even exist. Believe me, he, like many others, is laughing at your pathetic continual attempts to discredit me with lies, you’re becoming quite the topic of conversation. It’s clearly becoming an obsession for you but give it up – you’re chasing your tail and have now been shown up more times than I care to remember

                But go on then, let’s have just one more….

                in theory for all the reasons you have said, in reality it has become a fashion statement,they are typical man utd fans proud of the fact they are bigger and better than anyone else, they want to out muscle and out spend the non league scene in pursuit of total domination just as their parent club has always sought to do on the national/world stage,in essence bullies who neither care for nor respect any club outside their insular world

                VERY, VERY WRONG. YOU COULDN’T BE MORE WRONG IF YOU TRIED

                Unless you are seriously trying to tell me that a club run on socialist principles, with a one member, one vote policy, where the fans determine the ticket prices and the frequency which the shirt is changed and is run entirely by volunteers who put hundreds of hours of their own free time in every week not just to run the club but carry out endless work in the community with disadvantaged people from all walks of life is in fact nothing more than a “fashion statement” made by “bullies” seeking “world domination”

                I suggest you have a read of the following:

                FC United hold ‘Big Coat’ Charity which raises 5.5 tonnes of clothes to help the homeless: http://www.fc-utd.co.uk/story.php?story_id=3328
                FC United fight to help asylum seeker get deported: http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening … g_deported
                Volunteer community football training for Barnados kids http://www.fc-utd.co.uk/newcommstory.php?story_id=34
                And loads more here http://www.fc-utd.co.uk/community.php

                Not to mention the 5,000 seater community stadium (sounds really world dominating that…..) they are building with support from the Council with a view to regenerating a deprived area of East Manchester which will be open to and benefit the area as a whole

                Listen loudmouth, I’d always rather make a friend than an enemy. Unfortunately it was you who chose to slag me off and I felt the need to put you straight.

                I’ve now done this more times than I really should waste my efforts on by now and in your attempts to make a fool out of me, you are only succeeding in making a fool out of yourself. Give it up and move on.

                #66139
                jimmytJimmyT
                Player

                  Bumped up as I have been waiting 4 months for loudmouth to reply to this after I had put straight his lies – again :?

                  #80310
                  DickDastrdlyDickDastrdly
                  Player

                    Loudmouth has never been the same since this thread :lol: :lol:

                    Maybe the hiding was just too much :lol: :lol:

                    #132810
                    DickDastrdlyDickDastrdly
                    Player

                      :lol: :lol: :lol:

                      #132814

                      Dragging up a post over three years old to prove a point is rather strange behaviour, to be honest

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