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    SammySammy
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    A woman at work has just said, “in her opinion the kids were drugged so the McCanns could go out”

    I have just had a stand up argument with her, that it’s more likely that they weren’t than they were and she should shut the f up.

    I am sick to death of this case too, in that moaning bleaters see the need to kick off about money spent, what the parents did, might have done etc etc.

    They made a terrible mistake which most parents wouldn’t do but they’re paying the ultimate price

    I’m not into conspiracies but there is a raft of stuff on the internet that brings into question the “official” version of events involving this case. I’ve read a good deal of it mainly because this whole affair didn’t sit right with me in the first place. The McCanns employ PR people and very powerful lawyers to defend their position and have taken newspapers and individuals to court when they have dared to imply they had some involvement in her disappearance which, in my view, is not the action of normal grieving parents who have nothing to hide.

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    They absolved themselves of their parental responsibilities in the evenings on that holiday. Even their “checks” were nothing of the sort & the only reason Kate McCann went in the kids room on that 10pm check that night was because the door of the room slammed when she went to close it.
    Madeline had also been crying that day that she didn’t want to be left alone at night as she’d been scared when she’d woken up the night before. And they still went ahead & did it anyway.
    Their actions as parents on that holiday were disgraceful in my opinion & you can bet if some woman from Platt Waz nipped out of an evening to go to the bingo hall & left her kids at home, checked on em every half hour & one went missing then she’d be pilloried by all and sundry. If you’re middle class & eating tapas in the Algarve it seems you operate under different rules.
    For one of the parents to say they “aren’t the ones who gave done something wrong here” beggars belief. I also heard the mum say in the immediate aftermath that “we’ve all done it” – no we haven’t

    That said they have paid the ultimate horrendous price for their selfishness & stupidity and I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.
    In my opinion if the police either find her alive or discover she was killed & bring whoever did it to justice then £5million or however much it ends up costing will be money well spent

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    As tragic as the whole case is, it was avoidable. The McCanns should not have left their kids unsupervised, and no amount of PR can change that.

    Whilst I sincerely hope she is found, I very much doubt its going to happen. However, I also hope this £5million (and rising) cost of the UK police investigating the case will result in the McCanns being prosecuted for leaving their kids alone while they went out.

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    The 48 questions Kate McCann wouldn’t answer – and the one she did.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1041635/The-48-questions-Kate-McCann-wouldnt-answer–did.html

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    The 48 questions Kate McCann wouldn’t answer – and the one she did.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1041635/The-48-questions-Kate-McCann-wouldnt-answer–did.html

    I formed my own opinion on this a long time ago.

    Have you read this one? http://www.cwporter.com/mccann.htm

    Warning: this article investigates why the writer believes she was not abducted. If it’ll offend you, don’t read it.

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    The 48 questions Kate McCann wouldn’t answer – and the one she did.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1041635/The-48-questions-Kate-McCann-wouldnt-answer–did.html

    I formed my own opinion on this a long time ago.

    Have you read this one? http://www.cwporter.com/mccann.htm

    Warning: this article investigates why the writer believes she was not abducted. If it’ll offend you, don’t read it.[/quote]

    Anthony (Tony) Bennett, who wrote that article, was found guilty of contempt of court and given a three-month suspended prison sentence and ordered to pay the McCann’s court costs earlier this year because he wouldn’t keep schtum about it.

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    JohnArkwrightjohn arkwright
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    Are you saying that Bennet was NOT Giullty then?

    #122276
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    Oh he was guilty alright.

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    The 48 questions Kate McCann wouldn’t answer – and the one she did.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1041635/The-48-questions-Kate-McCann-wouldnt-answer–did.html

    I formed my own opinion on this a long time ago.

    Have you read this one? http://www.cwporter.com/mccann.htm

    Warning: this article investigates why the writer believes she was not abducted. If it’ll offend you, don’t read it.[/quote]

    There are some inconsistencies in the story & some unanswered questions but from teh three quarters of this article I managed to read yesterday, the author is basing way too many things on the behaviour of the parents in the immediate aftermath i.e. why would she do that? Why didn’t she do this? Why did she say that & not this? Why is his version a bit different to this other blokes etc… therefore she wasn’t abducted
    That ignores the fact that if the official version is correct, both parents would have been in a blind panic & not acting calmly & rationally. Different people react to different situations in different ways & certainly don’t act how an impartial observer looking at it some time later thinks they would have reacted.
    Likewise it’s well known fact that different people witnessing the same event will give differing versions of what took place – i remember the coppers coming into my school & during the talk, someone barging in doing some role play of being a mugger & then they asked us all to write statements. Not one was the same & people had the bloke with different coloured hair, different coloured clothing, different height & all sorts.
    One thing that the author completely overlooks (or I may have completely misunderstood) is the blood/smell of death etc.. in the hire car. The car was hired 3 weeks after Madeline went missing if I’m not mistaken. Given that the police were swarming around that area, complete with sniffer dogs etc.. where on earth do they propose that her body was stashed for 3 weeks?
    IMO if the “evidence” is as irrefutable as this author says then they would have been charged. despite 2 national police forces looking at it, they haven’t been.

    The only known “facts” are that the parents left 3 children under the age of 4 unsupervised in a holiday apartment whilst they went otu eating & drinking & 1 of those children disappeared

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    I don’t mind admitting that I think the parents were very much in on it and Christ knows what happened to her ( Well I have a pretty good idea ! ) but she is more than likely dead ! They have had some very influential people backing them up, some people who might lets say be of a masonic persuasion ! There is one Hell of a big peodophile ring out there that unfortunately will NEVER be broken up ! Some may scoff at my views but I will not waiver ! I have done enough research to be of this opinion and it sickens me to the core ! Funny how the Portuguese police got their noses pushed out aint it ! Thick as thieves the fuckin lot of em !

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    The 48 questions Kate McCann wouldn’t answer – and the one she did.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1041635/The-48-questions-Kate-McCann-wouldnt-answer–did.html

    I formed my own opinion on this a long time ago.

    Have you read this one? http://www.cwporter.com/mccann.htm

    Warning: this article investigates why the writer believes she was not abducted. If it’ll offend you, don’t read it.[/quote]

    There are some inconsistencies in the story & some unanswered questions but from teh three quarters of this article I managed to read yesterday, the author is basing way too many things on the behaviour of the parents in the immediate aftermath i.e. why would she do that? Why didn’t she do this? Why did she say that & not this? Why is his version a bit different to this other blokes etc… therefore she wasn’t abducted
    That ignores the fact that if the official version is correct, both parents would have been in a blind panic & not acting calmly & rationally. Different people react to different situations in different ways & certainly don’t act how an impartial observer looking at it some time later thinks they would have reacted.
    Likewise it’s well known fact that different people witnessing the same event will give differing versions of what took place – i remember the coppers coming into my school & during the talk, someone barging in doing some role play of being a mugger & then they asked us all to write statements. Not one was the same & people had the bloke with different coloured hair, different coloured clothing, different height & all sorts.
    One thing that the author completely overlooks (or I may have completely misunderstood) is the blood/smell of death etc.. in the hire car. The car was hired 3 weeks after Madeline went missing if I’m not mistaken. Given that the police were swarming around that area, complete with sniffer dogs etc.. where on earth do they propose that her body was stashed for 3 weeks?
    IMO if the “evidence” is as irrefutable as this author says then they would have been charged. despite 2 national police forces looking at it, they haven’t been.

    The only known “facts” are that the parents left 3 children under the age of 4 unsupervised in a holiday apartment whilst they went otu eating & drinking & 1 of those children disappeared[/quote]

    It clearly isn’t irrefutable, but nor is their defence and assumption that she was abducted – based on a couple of sketchy stories from people claiming to have seen a man carrying child.

    The behavioural focus is his article doesn’t stand up alone – as people do behave differently, but it is relevant when combined with the other ‘evidence’.

    Until something is proven, it’s all just opinions – and I happen to have formed mine some time ago.

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    It clearly isn’t irrefutable, but nor is their defence and assumption that she was abducted – based on a couple of sketchy stories from people claiming to have seen a man carrying child.

    The behavioural focus is his article doesn’t stand up alone – as people do behave differently, but it is relevant when combined with the other ‘evidence’.

    Until something is proven, it’s all just opinions – and I happen to have formed mine some time ago.

    To be fair, if the parents story is true then the other 2 options that I can see is that Madeline either wandered off or was abducted. If she’d got out of the apartment it’s likely that she’d have either been found & taken back, had an accident & died or been abducted by someone on the street.
    Regardless of how patchy their story is or how some things seem not to stand up, abduction is one of the 3 most likely scenarios
    I agree that it’s all just opinions but the behavioural focus of his article doesn’t stand up at all & it forms a big prop of his theory. Take it away & their argument starts to crumble
    Same thing with the dogs – they don’t always find something & they aren’t always correct but the author ignores this coz it doesn’t support his argument
    And like I said he doesn’t provide any explanation of where the McCann’s could have hidden Madeline’s body out of sight, sound & smell of search teams for 3 weeks before putting her in the boot of a hire car.
    Same with the inference of Kate McCann not answering the questions put to her in the formal police interview. He dismisses it as somet like “I know there was a lawyer present & giving advice but still.. surely she would have wanted to help the investigation & he didn’t.” It’s pretty certain the lawyer would have virtually insisted she answer nothing & if she had nothing to do with the disappearance (other than leaving the child unsupervised) then answering all those questions wouldn’t have helped one jot anyway
    There’s just as many holes in his argument when you dig into it as there are in the McCann’s

    I don’t have any opinion on what i think might have happened, only on what I know happened – I’ve done jury service about 10 years ago & there’s no way that I could convict someone based on what this journalist puts up here.

    #122324
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    I don’t mind admitting that I think the parents were very much in on it and Christ knows what happened to her ( Well I have a pretty good idea ! ) but she is more than likely dead ! They have had some very influential people backing them up, some people who might lets say be of a masonic persuasion ! There is one Hell of a big peodophile ring out there that unfortunately will NEVER be broken up ! Some may scoff at my views but I will not waiver ! I have done enough research to be of this opinion and it sickens me to the core ! Funny how the Portuguese police got their noses pushed out aint it ! Thick as thieves the fuckin lot of em !

    I too have read quite a bit about this and share your same opinions.

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