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He never said that he deliberately tried to injure Haaland either
The quote in the book is “I’d waited long enough. I f****** hit him hard,” he wrote. “The ball was there (I think). Take that you c***. And don’t ever stand over me sneering about fake injuries”
Now, don’t get me wrong it was a bad challenge. really bad. But even in my limited playing experience there were times when I deliberately fouled an opponent & sometimes hit em good & hard with a “have a bit of that” attitude similar to the quote above. But I never deliberately tried to injure them & that’s how I’ve always took Keane’s quote to be honest
Keane also said he’d never deliberately tried to injure an opponent (as I say different than deliberately fouling someone) & the writer of his book admitted to using artistic licence & paraphrasing sections of the book – although I admit that both of these were possibly attempts to backtrack as Keane realised he was gonna get into bother for the original comments
If thats aimed at me I said “purposefully set out to assault a player ”
If someone says “I’d waited long enough. I f****** hit him hard” Then surely even you can read between the lines through your red devil tinted specs that it was a premeditated attack.
Which is IMO worse than biting someone in the heat of the moment and should have been treated with a bigger ban than the 6 games he received Suarez or no Suarez.
I was actually referring to your first paragraph where you said he “admitted in his book that he set out to injure him” & he didn’t
For some reason (possibly my red devil tinted specs) the paragraph you’re now referring to hadn’t registered!! ;)
That said, to me the fact that it was premeditated makes no difference to me. I often hear when I’m reffing a player say to a team mate that “the next time player X gets the ball, I’m gonna have him” & quite often they do. I’ll give a caution or sending off or just a free kick depending on what the foul was like (dangerous, reckless, excessive force etc..) and not that they were looking for an opportunity to do it. It’s part & parcel of the game
Biting someone, in the heat of the moment or not, (and it’s the second time he’s done it) nah sorry, for me it’s far worse
Keane got 3 games at the time for a truly awful challenge.
He got another 5 games ( so 8 in total) after his book came out and he’d all but admitted it was a premeditated assault. Also a 150000 fine.
I think as a stand alone incident, the biting warrants 5-6 games, it just has no place in society, let alone football.
Add to that the fact he’s done it before, and he’s been warned about future conduct after the racism ban, I think you can justify 10 games. They have a global product to protect and Suarez is shitting all over it on a fortnightly basis.People can’t say, we’ll if x is worth 6 games then this is less or vice versa, because punishments previously may have been too lenient, or too harsh, the FA have got plenty of things wrong in the past, but that doesn’t mean they should continue the trend.
What they need to do now, is sit down at the end if the season and construct a more defined set of guidelines regarding offence and punishment, violent conduct should be graded, category a,b,c etc, and bans set accordingly. Racism should carry a set ban and fine, and it should be huge. Maybe managers and coaches should be party to these decisions?
At least if they do this, everybody knows where they stand, you commit the offence and you pay the price, no injustice, no witch hunt, if you’re a cheating, violent racist with no self control, you’re not likely to feature in many games?!
That’s my two penneth, personally I can’t stand Suarez, he hasn’t got an ounce of dignity, he’s not sportsmanlike, and it’s been obvious since the World Cup when he cheated Ghana out of a semi final spot.
The difference here for me is that bad tackles & even elbows (within some kind of reason) are an accepted part of the game & everyone who steps out on to a football field knows there is some risk of that happening however deliberately or not it occurs
But biting????? No, nay, never as they say in Burnley. It shows an person completely lacking the necessary self-control to behave like an adult in general and on a football field in particular. Add it to the fact that he’s already done it to someone else before & clearly hasn’t learnt his lesson then the second punishment is quite rightly more severe – if you get jailed for an offence & upon release commit the same offence again & get caught then your second sentence will be more severeAnd congratulations to John Doe for correcting the incorrect statement about Roy Keane ending haaland’s career when (as bad & deliberate as that was) it had nothin to do with why he stopped playing
‘No, nay, never’ is the last thing they’d say in Burnley as it’s what sing in Blackburn as part of the song ‘Wild Rover’.
(Yes, I’ve already escorted myself to a police station to face a charge of extreme pedantry…)[/quote]
Have to correct you there. Blackburn may well sing “Wild Rover” but Burnley sing their own version which runs along the lines of “No, nay, never. No, nay, never, no more. Till we play the B—–d Rovers. No, nay, never, no more”
And nonaynever.net is a Burnley FC blog – not that I’ve ever been on it but it comes up on a google searchBetter also confess to the crime of making yourself look a t!t !!! Don’t worry, it doesn’t carry much of a penalty – I’m a repeat offender ;) ;)[/quote]
Guilty as charged. I shall slope off to the nearest quiet place and uppercut myself in the chin numerous times….
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