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    How do you stop A UK CITIZEN from entering THE UK?

    Read my reply to Garswood again Egg, “because ANYBODY travelling back” UK citizen, black or white it doesn’t matter who you are you would need to explain yourself.

    #159341
    The EggThe Egg
    Chairman

      I’ve read it. The point is you can’t stop a UK citizen entering the UK.

      Yes you can arrest them on suspicion of something (which you would then need to prove and can yiu really arrest 200+ people) but you can’t deport them anywhere as they are UK CITIZENS.

      Stop people going there maybe but some people have family there and are genuine.

      #159342

      Just find other ways to get here via France and that.

      #159343
      The EggThe Egg
      Chairman
        Just find other ways to get here via France and that.

        Then there’s that.

        #159344

        Let me put it this way.

        Where would a terrorist go if he wanted to commit an atrocity in the west?

        A. the country where he will be vetted possibly detained when trying to enter.

        or

        B. the country where he can walk straight in no questions asked.

        It’s not rocket science fellas

        Egg, genuine will have nothing to fear because they would be able to explain themselves.

        Stu, Passports can be traced to where they have been previously, they could come via France we would still know they had visited Libya.

        #159345

        Just find other ways to get here via France and that.

        Then there’s that.[/quote]

        We are an Island ffs that makes our borders far easier to police than those which are landlocked. If the kermits did their jobs correctly the Uk would be practically impregnable.

        #159346
        Let me put it this way.

        Where would a terrorist go if he wanted to commit an atrocity in the west?

        A. the country where he will be vetted possibly detained when trying to enter.

        or

        B. the country where he can walk straight in no questions asked.

        It’s not rocket science fellas

        Egg, genuine will have nothing to fear because they would be able to explain themselves.

        Stu, Passports can be traced to where they have been previously, they could come via France we would still know they had visited Libya.

        We used to get pulled at Calais all the time simply because like Stu says when you enter a foreign land it is logged on a database and they wanted to know why we went through the port so often. The lads who went rarely never seemed to get a tug. It makes sense and we didn’t let it bother us.

        As for stopping UK citizens again im sure all those coming back from Syria and the like will happily accept stringent checks if they have nothing to hide. The majority will be fine as the security forces will know who needs to be scrutinized.

        #159348
        The EggThe Egg
        Chairman

          Sure it is that easy?

          Turkish security officials say they have no record of the Manchester bomber, Salman Abedi, entering Syria, Reuters reports.

          It quotes an official as saying:

          There is flight traffic before his arrival to Europe. He travels first to Europe, then to a third country and then to Istanbul and back to Europe.

          He said the “third country” was not Syria.

          He has not spent any time in Turkey (and) he has not had an entry or exit from Syria during his travels, there is no such information in his records.

          Of course, that does not preclude Abedi having gone to Syria illegally, as many do, although there is no evidence of that. The French interior minister previously said that Abedi “probably” travelled to Syria before rowing back from the assertion.

          German authorities confirmed today that he flew to Düsseldorf four days before the arena attack.

          #159349
          Sure it is that easy?

          Turkish security officials say they have no record of the Manchester bomber, Salman Abedi, entering Syria, Reuters reports.

          It quotes an official as saying:

          There is flight traffic before his arrival to Europe. He travels first to Europe, then to a third country and then to Istanbul and back to Europe.

          He said the “third country” was not Syria.

          He has not spent any time in Turkey (and) he has not had an entry or exit from Syria during his travels, there is no such information in his records.

          Of course, that does not preclude Abedi having gone to Syria illegally, as many do, although there is no evidence of that. The French interior minister previously said that Abedi “probably” travelled to Syria before rowing back from the assertion.

          German authorities confirmed today that he flew to Düsseldorf four days before the arena attack.

          Egg, I’m talking about travelling to and from the UK. Once you get into France either by train or ferry you can visit many different countries without further use of your passport and its a joke. If the Syrian/ Turkish border is anything like it is in Europe then its easy to see how he can move around undetected. Maybe its time to close all borders again. Whatever it takes something has to be done before the next atrocity claims more innocent people.

          #159350
          The EggThe Egg
          Chairman
            Egg, I’m talking about travelling to and from the UK. Once you get into France either by train or ferry you can visit many different countries without further use of your passport and its a joke. If the Syrian/ Turkish border is anything like it is in Europe then its easy to see how he can move around undetected. Maybe its time to close all borders again. Whatever it takes something has to be done before the next atrocity claims more innocent people.

            The point there though is that once he then arrives in the UK from Germany for example; then he is a UK citizen with no suspicious travel so we can’t stop him.

            #159359

            The point I was trying to make was, Was Trump right in his extreme vetting plan,

            It was not about cockney latics finest brains trying to get one over the UK intelligence services and border control. I’m sure they would be able to identify people of interest to them.

            So I’ll try again. Did Trump have a point?

            #159363
            BullittBullitt
            Player
              The point I was trying to make was, Was Trump right in his extreme vetting plan,

              It was not about cockney latics finest brains trying to get one over the UK intelligence services and border control. I’m sure they would be able to identify people of interest to them.

              So I’ll try again. Did Trump have a point?

              Yes he did, and a bloody good one at that!

              Fuck the EFL

              #159364
              The EggThe Egg
              Chairman

                Yes he did but in this case it wouldn’t have made a difference as his passport doesnt say he went there.

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