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Do you know for sure that’s the reason, John, or just speculation?
I’ve heard nothing about such plans, except to make a “singing section”. There are, or were, no plans to shut any particular areas.
What did the letter actually say?
It doesn’t matter what is says George , the bottom line is he can’t have the seat he has occupied since the east became allocated to home fans. If we had still been in Championship I strongly suspect he would have been able to renew.
If they want to have specific areas for singing, make the east stand a sit where you want job, that will allow people to get in early if they want to sit in the middle blocks and allow gangs of singers to get together and make a fuss. The pricing structure can be aligned accordingly.
The letter he received today was the first my lad knew about this change, which confirms that although we have been a premier league club on the field, off it we have never got beyond conference North.
I remember investing in an away season ticket with promise of best seats, blah, blah, blah, it was a load of shyte and I spent more time sat in a pokey corner of the ground with a pish poor view, whilst my mates had prime seats behind the goals having bought their tickets a few days before the match.I am coming to the conclusion that its no coincidence that our demise started when a certain Jonathon Jackson became CE. Penny pinching here and penny pinching there, a manager conveyor belt all of which he has been involved in. Mr Jackson seems to be like Graham Barrow and sneaks about under the radar, whilst the focus has been on Dave Whelan and a series of incompetent managers and players. Has the CE actually been accountable for any of this sudden slide? One big fat no is the answer!! :angry:[/quote]
Scandalous! The least I would have expected is that Jackson and Sharpe came round to your lad’s house to explain it to him in person.
As for your last paragraph… the capacity of this site to spout collective shite about things it knows nothing about never ceases to amaze me.
And before that imbecile, The Torch, comes on to say he thought I’d packed in on the site, this stuff is just too hilarious to ignore[/quote]
You think you know everything don’t you you patronising git.
My gripe is that my lad and a load others knew nothing about these changes before the letter was issued. It would have been nice for some discussions to have taken place with the fans via Jayt and gang. The club may have then taken on board the fact that the majority of long standing season ticket holders chose their seats many years ago, long before JJ joined the club and love sitting in the same place.
Still it doesn’t affect you in the west, so I never expected you to give a fek.
As for my last paragraph, firstly, why have the club been sacking managers for fun, yet one person who has supported these managers during all their failed reigns is our current Assistant Manager?
I know you are thick as pig shyte, but ask your CE if you have one, what he would expect happen to him if the company he managed went down the pon through hiring poor managers.?
Collective shyte egh? :lol:
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What a journey!I know you are thick as pig shyte, but ask your CE if you have one, what he would expect happen to him if the company he managed went down the pon through hiring poor managers.?Collective shyte egh? :lol:
Let’s add that to the ever-growing list of things you get wrong then, shall we.
350 season ticket holders have been asked to move from a seat that gets pissed on when it rains to anyone of about 11,000 others to choose from. Your capacity to get hysterical about the smallest little thing never ceases to amaze me.
… but ask your CE if you have one, what he would expect happen to him if the company he managed went down the pon through hiring poor managers.?If you think that anyone other than Dave Whelan had any real say in the appointment of any Wigan Athletic manager in the last 20 years, then I will have to revise up my opinion of how deluded and thick you actually are.
Me, being called thick as pig shit by you! Oh, the irony!
I know you are thick as pig shyte, but ask your CE if you have one, what he would expect happen to him if the company he managed went down the pon through hiring poor managers.?
Collective shyte egh? :lol:
Let’s add that to the ever-growing list of things you get wrong then, shall we.
350 season ticket holders have been asked to move from a seat that gets pissed on when it rains to anyone of about 11,000 others to choose from. Your capacity to get hysterical about the smallest little thing never ceases to amaze me.[/quote]
Is that the same 350 fans who have been getting pish wet through for the past 10 years, come on Griff think your responses through before engaging the send button you nerd?. :lol:
Unlike you, I’m sure the 350 would have had the common sense to work out if they would get wet or not. This move has got fek all to do with that, the fans have not been consulted and have chosen to renew their seats every season, knowing full well they will probably get wet and for many games, get blinded by the sun that hovers over the West. B)
As for Dave Whelan being solely responsible for appointing managers over the past 20 years, then yes he will have rubber stamped every one, but actually selected them all himself?. :lol: There’s definitely no irony in the fact you are thick as pig shyte, your last 2 posts have cast that in stone.
This is getting sooooo funny, do you actually know what the role is of the Chief Executive of any organisation?, perhaps not if you have always been hanging onto the bottom of the page of your organisation’s Management Structure. :PFrom Matlock to ManU
What a journey!one minute DW is a tyrant who steals money out the club. The next, he doesnt even pick our manager.Nobody has said he doesn’t pick our manager, I said that Jonathon Jackson also has a say in the matter. He is the Chief Exec FFS, what responsibility does he have then?
Nobody will call Dave Whelan to me, he has been the main reason behind our success. I could never thank him enough for what I have experienced this past 10 years, anyone who thinks he has stolen money from the club want hung drawn and quartered. :angry:
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What a journey!Oh dear, this is far too easy, but I’ll give it a go anyway….
Is that the same 350 fans who have been getting pish wet through for the past 10 years, come on Griff think your responses through before engaging the send button you nerd?. :lol:
Unlike you, I’m sure the 350 would have had the common sense to work out if they would get wet or not. This move has got fek all to do with that, the fans have not been consulted and have chosen to renew their seats every season, knowing full well they will probably get wet and for many games, get blinded by the sun that hovers over the West.I rest my case. Couple of words there that don’t really belong in that paragraph, given the other highlighted nonsense you wrote.
As for Dave Whelan being solely responsible for appointing managers over the past 20 years, then yes he will have rubber stamped every one, but actually selected them all himself?.Yes, you totally deluded bellend! Of course he has!!!
This is getting sooooo funny, do you actually know what the role is of the Chief Executive of any organisation?, perhaps not if you have always been hanging onto the bottom of the page of your organisation’s Management Structure. :PAnd now, you are really making yourself look silly. Why don’t you just carry on putting out your yellow “Caution! Wet Floor” signs after you’ve mopped up and leave conversations about chief executives to the grown-ups and clever people?
I said that Jonathon Jackson also has a say in the matter. He is the Chief Exec FFS, what responsibility does he have then?I would guess Jonathon Jackson also had a say in whether it was a good idea for Whelan to give newspaper interviews when defending his decision to appoint Mackay. Didn’t have much effect though did it?
I said that Jonathon Jackson also has a say in the matter. He is the Chief Exec FFS, what responsibility does he have then?
I would guess Jonathon Jackson also had a say in whether it was a good idea for Whelan to give newspaper interviews when defending his decision to appoint Mackay. Didn’t have much effect though did it?[/quote]
I think you’ve just backed my case to the hilt there Sammy, thanks very much. :)
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What a journey!Oh dear, this is far too easy, but I’ll give it a go anyway….Is that the same 350 fans who have been getting pish wet through for the past 10 years, come on Griff think your responses through before engaging the send button you nerd?. :lol:
Unlike you, I’m sure the 350 would have had the common sense to work out if they would get wet or not. This move has got fek all to do with that, the fans have not been consulted and have chosen to renew their seats every season, knowing full well they will probably get wet and for many games, get blinded by the sun that hovers over the West.I rest my case. Couple of words there that don’t really belong in that paragraph, given the other highlighted nonsense you wrote.
As for Dave Whelan being solely responsible for appointing managers over the past 20 years, then yes he will have rubber stamped every one, but actually selected them all himself?.Yes, you totally deluded bellend! Of course he has!!!
This is getting sooooo funny, do you actually know what the role is of the Chief Executive of any organisation?, perhaps not if you have always been hanging onto the bottom of the page of your organisation’s Management Structure. :PAnd now, you are really making yourself look silly. Why don’t you just carry on putting out your yellow “Caution! Wet Floor” signs after you’ve mopped up and leave conversations about chief executives to the grown-ups and clever people?[/quote]
I love getting under your skin Griff, don’t like it much do you?
You’ve still not convinced me that you have any idea what the Chief Execs role is. :huh:
From the comments made by some on here, its the easiest job in the world to do. You can make decisions, but are not accountable for them, I wouldn’t mind some of that. :cheer:
As for the yellow wet floor signs, I don’t put them down, I get somebody else to do that. Must try harder Griff my old bean! :lol:From Matlock to ManU
What a journey!The difference is the difference between operational management – dealing with day to day operational matters – and strategic management – setting the long term vision for an organisation, including appointment of key stakeholders.
The operational manager can provide their input into strategic discussions using their experience of day-to-day matters, but ultimately the decision making for future direction lies with the strategic decision maker, ie the Chairman.
CEO’s are accountable for day-to-day operational matters.
I said that Jonathon Jackson also has a say in the matter. He is the Chief Exec FFS, what responsibility does he have then?
I would guess Jonathon Jackson also had a say in whether it was a good idea for Whelan to give newspaper interviews when defending his decision to appoint Mackay. Didn’t have much effect though did it?[/quote]
I think you’ve just backed my case to the hilt there Sammy, thanks very much. :)[/quote]
I don’t read it that way at all, John.
JJ will have advised DW that it was unwise to say anything, and that he should leave all Press discussions to the PR team.
If DW chooses to ignore that advice, as he did, then that’s hos decision. It’s not JJ’s role to decide that. He can purely advise.
His role is to make sure that all operational matters on a day-to-day basis run smoothly.
I said that Jonathon Jackson also has a say in the matter. He is the Chief Exec FFS, what responsibility does he have then?
I would guess Jonathon Jackson also had a say in whether it was a good idea for Whelan to give newspaper interviews when defending his decision to appoint Mackay. Didn’t have much effect though did it?[/quote]
I think you’ve just backed my case to the hilt there Sammy, thanks very much. :)[/quote]
I don’t read it that way at all, John.
JJ will have advised DW that it was unwise to say anything, and that he should leave all Press discussions to the PR team.
If DW chooses to ignore that advice, as he did, then that’s hos decision. It’s not JJ’s role to decide that. He can purely advise.
His role is to make sure that all operational matters on a day-to-day basis run smoothly.[/quote]
Likewise the appointment of a manager that JJ et al advised would be a bad idea as he carried too much baggage, would be a PR disaster, etc. etc.I remember some folk kicking off about having to leave the South Stand for the East and some about having to leave the North for the South, it all settled down in the end! I think our letters were sent out to us early enough, giving us plenty of time to act. The offer of going to the stadium to be shown the options inside the ground is a nice tangible personal touch and I have no qualms about the decision now that I have spoken with someone!
There was one funny moment on the phone when the lady offered me a seat in the West Stand, ” I’m only 52, I’m too young for there yet ” I replied and she said that her husband is the same and calls it the ‘Rigor Mortis Stand’! Ha ha ha !
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