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Its all about the challenge’sum have the stomach for it? where with others’ it brings the fear of God in it…. ;)
It may also be that he can see that managing Wigan he has a chance of being seen as successful – we hopefully will win more games and we will have European exposure. A Championship title under the belt would be a tick in the right boxes.
Managing Hull is going to be an uphill struggle, with only one outcome – this year, or next year.
The lightside will become the DARKSIDE if he does arrive at the DW :lol:
The lightside will become the DARKSIDE if he does arrive at the DW :lol:Why?
“Lightside” is about supporting the manager even when things don’t go according to plan; realising that we are a small club living on a shoestring budget, and supporting the Chairman and manager, whoever they may be, in maintaining the club on an even keel and not screaming that we ought to be buying whoever on ridiculous wages; seeing the positives and not acting like a gloating rival fan if we lose; and turning up whatever, even if X, Y or Z has been sold or such-and-such is manager, and not saying “never going again” or “not renewing my season ticket” but claiming you were right along if things don’t go right, or particularly claiming you were right if things DO go right.
The lightside will become the DARKSIDE if he does arrive at the DW :lol:
Why?
“Lightside” is about supporting the manager even when things don’t go according to plan; realising that we are a small club living on a shoestring budget, and supporting the Chairman and manager, whoever they may be, in maintaining the club on an even keel and not screaming that we ought to be buying whoever on ridiculous wages; seeing the positives and not acting like a gloating rival fan if we lose; and turning up whatever, even if X, Y or Z has been sold or such-and-such is manager, and not saying “never going again” or “not renewing my season ticket” but claiming you were right along if things don’t go right, or particularly claiming you were right if things DO go right.[/quote]
Just to clarify, the Lightside phrase was coined to categorize the people who supported what the club as a whole was doing, not just the manager. I know, because I coined it. ;)
As for me, I will get behind whoever the club puts in place. Until such time as they start doing things that I fundamentally disagree with. At which point, it’s feasible I could become a Darksider. Unlikely though.
Not like you grief to claim glory for yourself,completely out of character :woohoo:
Putting aside my obvious disappointment with Bruce’s previous exit strategies I would give him my support from day one if he took the job.
He’s not going to take the job though as its seems to be a story made out of thin air.
He would be odds on to do the job and get us back in the Premiership as well.
I think there is enough creative players in the squad currently that can cause the best teams in the world a problem on their day which if coupled with a solid defence that Bruce seems to have a reputation for putting together would be a very good thing.
I dont think he is tactically good enough to create the sort of performance in the FA CUP final where Martinez seemed to leave Mancini with no ideas.
And I dont think he would take us any further than the bottom end of the Premiership.
However he would be open to criticism from me until he proves me wrong which I would be more than happy to happen and definitely wouldn’t get the sort of loyal backing I gave to Martinez through some periods of bad performances as I don’t think he would provide the sort of confidence Martinez did that even through the defeats something good was coming.
It shouldn’t be a problem though as like I said I dont think there is anything in this story.
I think my feelings towards a potential return of Bruce is be best summed up by the wise words of Brick Top. “You’re on thin f*****g ice my pedigree chums, and I shall be under it when it breaks.”
I dont think he is tactically good enough to create the sort of performance in the FA CUP final where Martinez seemed to leave Mancini with no ideas.And I dont think he would take us any further than the bottom end of the Premiership.
Not often I disagree with you Salford, but seriously?
Not tactically good enough? Hmm. Which end of the field? Bruce gave us one of our tightest defences in 8 years. How did Bob’s defensive tactics compare?
No further than the bottom end? Hmm #2. Where did we finish with him in his full season? And Bob’s highest positions of 15th/16th in 4 years took us where exactly?
I’d definitely have him back to get us up, but he’s not a long term solution as he would unravel or at best mothball all the hard work that’s gone on behind the scenes.
I dont think he is tactically good enough to create the sort of performance in the FA CUP final where Martinez seemed to leave Mancini with no ideas.
And I dont think he would take us any further than the bottom end of the Premiership.
Not often I disagree with you Salford, but seriously?
Not tactically good enough? Hmm. Which end of the field? Bruce gave us one of our tightest defences in 8 years. How did Bob’s defensive tactics compare?
No further than the bottom end? Hmm #2. Where did we finish with him in his full season? And Bob’s highest positions of 15th/16th in 4 years took us where exactly?
I’d definitely have him back to get us up, but he’s not a long term solution as he would unravel or at best mothball all the hard work that’s gone on behind the scenes.[/quote]
I was referring solely to the fa cup final that even the darkest of darksiders cant deny was a masterstroke! but Martinez is a better tactician than Bruce IMO.
nothing special about the way Bruce sets up a team by any stroke of the imagination.
his defensive record speaks to itself according to most on here but I think he is lost against the better teams who can break you down.
I would argue you could take a handfull of Martinez’s games in charge and say they are the best performances in latics history.
People who called his teams negative I think are tactically naive as the top and tail of it seems to be anything other than knocking it forward and hoping for the best was according to them negative.
I can’t think of a game under Martinez where we have done anything but try to attack from the first whistle to the last.
unfortunately we lived and died by that sword.
I dont think he is tactically good enough to create the sort of performance in the FA CUP final where Martinez seemed to leave Mancini with no ideas.
And I dont think he would take us any further than the bottom end of the Premiership.
Not often I disagree with you Salford, but seriously?
Not tactically good enough? Hmm. Which end of the field? Bruce gave us one of our tightest defences in 8 years. How did Bob’s defensive tactics compare?
No further than the bottom end? Hmm #2. Where did we finish with him in his full season? And Bob’s highest positions of 15th/16th in 4 years took us where exactly?
I’d definitely have him back to get us up, but he’s not a long term solution as he would unravel or at best mothball all the hard work that’s gone on behind the scenes.[/quote]
I was referring solely to the fa cup final that even the darkest of darksiders cant deny was a masterstroke! but Martinez is a better tactician than Bruce IMO.
nothing special about the way Bruce sets up a team by any stroke of the imagination.
his defensive record speaks to itself according to most on here but I think he is lost against the better teams who can break you down.
I would argue you could take a handfull of Martinez’s games in charge and say they are the best performances in latics history.
People who called his teams negative I think are tactically naive as the top and tail of it seems to be anything other than knocking it forward and hoping for the best was according to them negative.
I can’t think of a game under Martinez where we have done anything but try to attack from the first whistle to the last.
unfortunately we lived and died by that sword.[/quote]
A handful of good performances in 4 seasons, absolutely marvellous :woohoo:
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I can’t think of a game under Martinez where we have done anything but try to attack from the first whistle to the last.[/quote]Southampton at home is still pretty fresh in the mind off the top of my head.
[/quote]A handful of good performances in 4 seasons, absolutely marvellous :woohoo:[/quote]
Exactly, The majority of it has been total dross, It’s easy to palm over the 9-1, 8-0, 5-0 and multiple 4-0’s with ‘We won the F.A Cup. He may well turn out to be a good manager but in 4 years here he was bloody awful. This youth system he spouts about, No home grown Wigan players have come through it yet, Just players signed from other sides who were lumped into it. AND… This youth thing will disappear now Roberto has gone anyway. Whelan won’t have that little problem on his shoulders now. Under Bruce we played some good stuff, We finished comfortably and didn’t leak a guaranteed 2 goals a game. I hope Martinez fails spectacularly, Lied his way out of the club, Left us in the lurch and did the opposite of everything he said he wouldn’t.
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