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As you are all aware i am of the firm belief that Whelan is ONLY in it for the money. And i stand by that view
You are entitled to that opinion Yosser, but unfortunately your opinion is wrong. There’s not even any debate about it. It’s there in black and white for all to see, and even a bit of fag-packet workings out prove it.
What Whelan has got from the club is the one thing he loves more than money: fame and the opportunity to appear on TV at the drop of a hat.
Without Wigan Athletic he’d be virtually unknown outside the borough of Wigan.[/quote]
Isn’t that two things SW – oh! and the FA Cup win (three things really).
But I totally agree with you on this.
As you are all aware i am of the firm belief that Whelan is ONLY in it for the money. And i stand by that view
You are entitled to that opinion Yosser, but unfortunately your opinion is wrong. There’s not even any debate about it. It’s there in black and white for all to see, and even a bit of fag-packet workings out prove it.
What Whelan has got from the club is the one thing he loves more than money: fame and the opportunity to appear on TV at the drop of a hat.
Without Wigan Athletic he’d be virtually unknown outside the borough of Wigan.[/quote]
Isn’t that two things SW – oh! and the FA Cup win (three things really).
But I totally agree with you on this.[/quote]
Two things I hate: a smart arseAs you are all aware i am of the firm belief that Whelan is ONLY in it for the money. And i stand by that view
You are entitled to that opinion Yosser, but unfortunately your opinion is wrong. There’s not even any debate about it. It’s there in black and white for all to see, and even a bit of fag-packet workings out prove it.
What Whelan has got from the club is the one thing he loves more than money: fame and the opportunity to appear on TV at the drop of a hat.
Without Wigan Athletic he’d be virtually unknown outside the borough of Wigan.[/quote]
Unfortunately my opinion is right because that’s what it is. My opinion. You chose to believe the rhetoric you read and hear that is opposite to my opinion. No problem, We have always differed on this. I believe what i read and hear too but it doesn’t run parallel to what you read and hear.
But that’s a side issue. The main point i was making and the only reason i posted was my view on the transfer of McArthur and the replacements.
As you are all aware i am of the firm belief that Whelan is ONLY in it for the money. And i stand by that view
You are entitled to that opinion Yosser, but unfortunately your opinion is wrong. There’s not even any debate about it. It’s there in black and white for all to see, and even a bit of fag-packet workings out prove it.
What Whelan has got from the club is the one thing he loves more than money: fame and the opportunity to appear on TV at the drop of a hat.
Without Wigan Athletic he’d be virtually unknown outside the borough of Wigan.[/quote]
Unfortunately my opinion is right because that’s what it is. My opinion. You chose to believe the rhetoric you read and hear that is opposite to my opinion. No problem, We have always differed on this. I believe what i read and hear too but it doesn’t run parallel to what you read and hear.
But that’s a side issue. The main point i was making and the only reason i posted was my view on the transfer of McArthur and the replacements.[/quote]
I agree with you on the McArthur sale and investment, but I’ve picked up on your old argument because I’m just astounded that there is someone out there who still believes that Whelan makes money from the club.The ‘rhetoric’ I read consists of the club’s annual financial reports (from which I’m quite sure the external auditors would spot if DW had his hand in the till), and articles written by respected financial journalists.
I’m guessing the ‘DW is making money from the club’ camp is made up entirely of people from Wigan who post on fans forums and blogs.
You’re obviously an intelligent lad Yosser, so surely you can see it’s a case of facts versus unfounded opinion.
Dave Whelan has definitely made money out of WAFC, but not in the way some fans think.
I don’t think for one minute he has pocketed a penny out of the club revenues, in fact, as well as bank rolling us at times, we probably haven’t paid him a penny in wages or dividends for all time he has spent on behalf of WAFC. A person like him paid as MD would have cost a small fortune.
His sponsorship of WAFC is another matter. Over the years he will have made loads of money out of his backing of WAFC and for relatively little outlay for the exposure gained. But, that is why people do sponsor football clubs, it is only glorified advertising anyway.
I personally reckon he deserves every penny he has made on the back of his support of WAFC.
We could have earned lots more money from other companies for shirt deals etc, especially when we were in the PL.
I for one would rather have it this way and have less off field money coming in and Dave making a few Bob, than not have him at the helm and gaining an extra couple of hundred grand from sponsorship and the club be run badly.Unlike some I have every faith that in Dave Whelan the future of Wigan Athletic is secure. I know he won’t be around forever but I am sure he is working tirelessly to get us in the right shape for when the day comes and he can no longer be involved.
Well done DW and thanks for everything.
the business the club did in the window may turn out to be some of the best business this club has ever done and we are in for some fine times ahead if that performance against Birmingham is anything to go by.
Dave Whelan has definitely made money out of WAFC, but not in the way some fans think.I don’t think for one minute he has pocketed a penny out of the club revenues, in fact, as well as bank rolling us at times, we probably haven’t paid him a penny in wages or dividends for all time he has spent on behalf of WAFC. A person like him paid as MD would have cost a small fortune.
His sponsorship of WAFC is another matter. Over the years he will have made loads of money out of his backing of WAFC and for relatively little outlay for the exposure gained. But, that is why people do sponsor football clubs, it is only glorified advertising anyway.
I personally reckon he deserves every penny he has made on the back of his support of WAFC.
We could have earned lots more money from other companies for shirt deals etc, especially when we were in the PL.
I for one would rather have it this way and have less off field money coming in and Dave making a few Bob, than not have him at the helm and gaining an extra couple of hundred grand from sponsorship and the club be run badly.Unlike some I have every faith that in Dave Whelan the future of Wigan Athletic is secure. I know he won’t be around forever but I am sure he is working tirelessly to get us in the right shape for when the day comes and he can no longer be involved.
Well done DW and thanks for everything
.I’m sure the advertising associated with Wigan Athletic has benefitted Whelan, but I very much doubt it has benefitted him financially anywhere near the amount money he’s put into the club.
This article’s been well banded about, but it’s still valid:
http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2011/06/wigan-athletics-unlikely-survival.html
One of the relevant bits says:
‘Some fans have also carped that his companies have benefited from a lot of free advertising and publicity, due to his association with Wigan Athletic, particularly the stadium name and shirt sponsorship. While this is undoubtedly correct, the financial cost to Whelan has clearly far outweighed the benefits. He has not taken any director’s salary over the years and only received annual interest of £375,000 since 2009. Instead, a club spokesman estimated that he has put over £100 million into Wigan Athletic during his tenure.’
Whelan is a vain man and buying a football club has given him the opportunity to voice his opinions to the press every week and the fame he craved.I still maintain that this is what his motivation to invest so much into Wigan Athletic has been.
If Whelan has managed to make money out of investing in a small town club from the lower leagues then why is there no mad rush from others to do the same?
Reply to Standish’s post (made a mess of my posting).
As one of the more intelligent posters on this forum, I can’t believe you have said that. That is one hell of a vanity case (pun intended) – £100 million worth?
Have a word with yourself and stop talking like Bicky. Why can’t people take him at face value? He loves his home town, wants to give something back, and he can afford it.
Reply to Standish’s post (made a mess of my posting).As one of the more intelligent posters on this forum, I can’t believe you have said that. That is one hell of a vanity case (pun intended) – £100 million worth?
Have a word with yourself and stop talking like Bicky. Why can’t people take him at face value? He loves his home town, wants to give something back, and he can afford it.
Owd Git, I don’t doubt that Mr Whelan loves his hometown, nor that some of the initial motivation for investing his money was to give something back to the good people of Wigan, but I very much doubt that this is the only motivating factor in him continuing to plough money back into the club.
Orrell RU was one of the country’s leading clubs and competing on an even keel against the likes of Bath, Wasps, Leicester etc – which was something the town should have been proud of, but after Whelan bought Orrell, the club was stripped of its assets and cast aside when it became clear that it was, financially, a dead duck.
Whelan bought Wigan RL, dragged the club out of the mire, but had no desire to run it and subsequently sold it on. There is the argument that he is ‘a football man’, but he also professes to being a big Wigan Rugby League fan.
With Wigan Athletic however, he has continued to back the club financially, when the support from Wiganers has been muted at times and in the knowledge that football is a renowned money pit. He clearly doesn’t make money from football (despite what Yosser and a dwindling few may still think), but is his sole motivation that fact that he loves Wigan and its townsfolk?
Don’t get me wrong, I am a big fan of Dave Whelan and everything he has done and is still doing for Wigan, but a man who names his latest company and stadium after himself, is quick to speak to the press on any subject – even if it doesn’t concern him, and despite being at the helm of a small provincial football club has become one of football’s most outspoken and recognisable chairmen suggests someone with a fair amount of vanity to me.
Don’t forget – he was also supposedly very close to buying Manchester United – years before he was talked into investing in Wigan Athletic.
I might be cynical, but as he is a man who is renowned for being frugal with his money, ruthless in business, and not renowned for his goodwill gestures, I strongly suspect he has found the fame and opportunity to court the press at any given opportunity to be highly addictive and purse strings have been loosened more readily than if it were a similar venture, but without the media exposure.
Dave Whelan is guilty of being a human being just like the rest of us:
Hands up those on here who have never exhibited one of the seven deadly sins – Jealousy anyone?
Hands up those who have contributed more to the general well-being of Wiganers.
Perhaps he should have paid for a little media training instead of pouring money into the lost cause of pleasing Wiganers.
Dave Whelan is guilty of being a human being just like the rest of us:Hands up those on here who have never exhibited one of the seven deadly sins – Jealousy anyone?
Hands up those who have contributed more to the general well-being of Wiganers.
Perhaps he should have paid for a little media training instead of pouring money into the lost cause of pleasing Wiganers.
Whooah! Back up there a second!
I think you’re confusing my post with an attack on Dave Whelan. It’s far from it.
I initially posted in response to Yosser’s claim that he is syphoning money from the club with my counter opinion of why he has continued to be so generous towards Wigan Athletic.A lot of Wiganers are a stay-away ungrateful bunch, so that’s why I question if it is purely an act of kindness towards these people.
I don’t think it is – but that’s my personal opinion. And I’m certainly not attacking his personality traits as we’re all guilty of vanity, the difference being he has the money and opportunity to fulfil his desire for attention in the public eye.
Whether I’m right or wrong, I’m still extremely grateful for all he has done, wouldn’t swap him for any other chairman and dread what will happen when he’s no longer around.
I’m amazed at the negativity Mr Whelan gets by some on here. All I know is that when he saved the club he publicly and openly stated that Wigan would be in the Prem in 10 years (boy did I laugh at that) and the man delivered in spectacular manner. Whatever his reason for investing in the club initially has paid off big time. And just for those who think he is a mean individual you need to understand business practices. Mr Whelan will have a team of financial advisers telling him where and when to spend usually to avoid paying all his hard earned to the greedy tax man. Like most entepreneur’s he will have diversified in other buisnesses on the advice of his accountants. Listening to some of you lot he is a modern day Eberneezer Scrooge. Just remember the next time your about to post on here and slag him off that this man realised all our wildest dreams on that fabulous day in May when Wigan Athletic stunned the watching world. Without Mr Whelan, the chances are we wouldn’t even have a club to support so how about we give him the support and respect he has richly deserved.
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