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Very poor article which I fell asleep to as it was so dull and predictable.
Backwards is a relative term, especially if you’re only considering our activities in the Premiership (so I won’t even mention the FA Cup or off the field progress).
But if Premiership performance is the only metric, you could say PJ took us backwards when we only just survived our second season. You could say Bruce took us backwards by turning us back into a more direct team than Hutchings, who tried to make us less direct than Jewell. You could also remember that before Bob we had never beaten a big 4 team in the league.I wonder if West Brom, Newcastle, Sunderland and West Ham feel now that relegation was a backward step for them – they seem to have all bounced back stronger for it.
conceded shedfull of goals shedfull of defeats taken us to a new level (championship)
possibility of losing our best players
left with calldwell boozer joe and the likes only one way for us downwards
martinez out
ok FA cup success but that just paperd over the cracksYou must be a barrel of laughs down the pub. Do you ever have a day off?
Bet you don’t drink with Griff. :)[/quote]
He did once, actually. And don’t believe half of the tosh that he spouts on here, he’s a big soft mard-arse, really ;)[/quote]
Did he leave with a book ?
I agree with most of it, the bottom line is year on year failure in the league with his 3 year plan resulting in us being relegated, being on the edge of your opponents box and choosing to pass back to your keeper continually leaves me scratching my head & let’s be honest we were very lucky to scrape through against Bournemouth & Macclesfield in the cup, I do actually like Martinez but am yet to be convinced he’s destined to be a Mourinho .Martinez fielded a weakened team in every round of the cup until the final. He knew his resources were not sufficient to compete in both the Cup and the League.
He did his best to lose in the early rounds. I’ve said before that the winning goal at Bournemouth might be regarded as Boselli’s revenge. And nobody foresaw the stunning win at Everton, which established McManaman and Gomez in the first team.
Wigan have steadily improved under Martinez. But other teams have had far greater investment and have improved even more. Southampton were one of the biggest spending teams in Europe, spending £30 million on players last summer, while Newcastle bought six players in the January transfer window alone.
Wigan simply couldn’t compete with that, although they weren’t very far behind either team. They did finish well above QPR who spent heavily both before and during the season.
Martinez’ team ultimately suffered relegation. Do you think another manager could have done any better with the same resources?
Do you think another manager could have done any better with the same resources?Many wouldn’t even have tried.
let’s be honest we were very lucky to scrape through against Bournemouth & Macclesfield in the cupWe were unlucky to lose to Bradford, I thought. But I meant to add that we were very unlucky to scrape through against Bournemouth and Macclesfield.
That was where things started to go wrong for Martinez. And the towering victory at Everton was just as much a shock to Wigan as it was to Everton – thank you David Moyes and Phil Neville.
I can’t decide whether the season ended badly or well. We’ll certainly never have a season like it again. But I sense that a new era is about to start.
we might get a big surprise very soon
new manager and the legendary warchest could well be opened
but kone rumoured to be off to swansea i hope not
Thers a lot of folk on all the forums in the past calling Steve Bruce for leaving’it can bite you on the arse tha knows. ;)
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but kone rumoured to be off to swansea i hope notNow I’ve heard from someone who was at the Arouna Kone football day today who quotes him as saying he is going to stay in whatever division and “I am a Cup winner, I am a Cup winner”.
Who knows? We’ll wait and see.
Do you think another manager could have done any better with the same resources?
Many wouldn’t even have tried.[/quote]
Paul Jewel tried and succeeded except to beat United at Cardiff and not that he had a cup final to deal with but when Bruce came in for Hutchings I think he managed 14th, as I said I do like Martinez as a person & I believe he does care about WAFC but he knew the score when he took the job and I think his 3year plan prediction involved being in the top 10, we’ve been relegated under him and each year under him we’ve survived by the skin of our teeth, I’m not slating Martinez for fun, I’m just saying that he hasn’t delivered in the league as he said he would, knowing what his resources were and not having the combination to the war chest, he didn’t get Swansea promoted and for me the jury’s still out on how good he is, if he leaves after taking us down I think he has failed to finish the job he set out to do .
I’m not slating Martinez for fun, I’m just saying that he hasn’t delivered in the league as he said he would, knowing what his resources were and not having the combination to the war chestMartinez may have known what his resources were, but he couldn’t know how much rivals like Southampton, Newcastle and even QPR would have to spend.
You have to run to stand still in the Premier League.
Martinez couldn’t keep Wigan in the Premier League at the same time as winning the cup, but the margin of failure wasn’t very much.
Brendan Rogers has stepped up to a bigger club and I’m sure Martinez could do too.
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