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9 December 2012 at 12:17 pm #97835The chanting and support for Di Santo shows what most thought of him.
As for Kone looking more dangerous, did he come closest to the winner or someone else hit the bar? His touch is woeful, his passing is woeful and he doesn’t close players down on the ball. On top of that, he can’t hold the ball up and in recent weeks has missed some shocking chances.
Some people are quick to forget his goals helped keep us up, just like Hugos did the season before.
If Kone was that good, he’d have the fans chanting his name, but he doesn’t.That’s probably only because you and the Pom-Pom brigade can’t work out a chant that rhymes with his name.
9 December 2012 at 12:53 pm #97837Kone set up Mccarthy at start of second half. Set up Gomez chance that hit bar. Had great run at end where he set up Gomez chance when Green saved well. Cant remember Franco setting up much but he did miss a sitter in first half when he was so obviously one footed he miskicked it then he had another chance second half where he balooned it 40ft in air to Beausejour on wing. No wonder Bobby dragged him off to replace him with another Argentinian international!
We aint gonna make the next step up without a better striker thats for sure.9 December 2012 at 12:57 pm #97838To the tune of I love you baby
You’re just too crap to be true
Can’t get a goal out of you
You’ve got an awful first touch
I want to punch you so much
At long last Franco has arrived
He looks even worse by your side
You’re just too crap to be true
Can’t get a goal out of youArouna Kone……..don’t let me down I pray
Arouna Kone……..the goals the other way
Arouna Kone……..What did we buy you forArouna Kone…….You looked quite good at first
Arouna Kone…….but now your bubbles burst
So we should drop you Kone…..we should drop yooooouuuuu!9 December 2012 at 1:34 pm #97840For all the slagging off of kone santo and Gomez the fact is for once under Martinez we are scoring goals this season and its defending which is the problem not just today, think we’re averaging 2 a game conceeded
9 December 2012 at 3:04 pm #97843AnonymousThe chanting and support for Di Santo shows what most thought of him.
As for Kone looking more dangerous, did he come closest to the winner or someone else hit the bar? His touch is woeful, his passing is woeful and he doesn’t close players down on the ball. On top of that, he can’t hold the ball up and in recent weeks has missed some shocking chances.
Some people are quick to forget his goals helped keep us up, just like Hugos did the season before.
If Kone was that good, he’d have the fans chanting his name, but he doesn’t.That’s probably only because you and the Pom-Pom brigade can’t work out a chant that rhymes with his name.[/quote]
If supporting Latics from non league days is what you call it, then Pom pom brigade up and down the country for 35 years griff.
You want to leave the lager alone and try to do something to help instead of cheer leading on a message board.
Let me guess, you sit with your arms folded all match whispering only when you go for your half time coffee?9 December 2012 at 4:23 pm #97844ha ha for all you clowns who think i know nothing and call my wife a dog this is what i posted 3 days ago
ha ha good one not real fans are they mate next on the hit list will be kone you just watch
norwich here i come anyone going no though not
9 December 2012 at 4:30 pm #97846For all the slagging off of kone santo and Gomez the fact is for once under Martinez we are scoring goals this season and its defending which is the problem not just today, think we’re averaging 2 a game conceededPrecisely, a point I’ve made a couple of occasions before, indeed some weeks ago (nothing’s changed)
Winning 3-2 every week, …its not going to happen.
A few facts and figures to focus the mind :
= Points earned (teams played in PL 2011/12) Played 12 Points SIX
(excludes WHU, Reading, Soton obviously)
Dress it up anyway you like (good performances etc.), not good enough.
Points (not performances) make prizes !!= defence: 2 goals /game
Our ongoing fundamental inability to defend set-pieces, crosses etc.
The likes of Norwich and Southampton all recently conceding goals for
fun have gone on a roll, … Back to basics approach … we should be
able to do likewise (start from the premise of NOT conceding a goal)Unfortunate 2nd goal conceded yesterday. That aside, thought Lopez had
another good game; like his ability to anticipate and time the tackle
/take the ball cleanly. Probably better in that regard than Caldwell,
certainly Ramis.The return of the likes of Caldwell (lucky to stay on at Newcastle)and
Ramis in itself will do little for the Goals Against Column …. we’ve
been running at 2 goals /game practically all season.Something a little more concerted will be required …. The team,as a
whole, stepping up to the plate.Would like to see Alcaraz back (difference he might make?), concerning
the fact that no likely date of return is currently known= Goal output (excl. Di Santo, Kone, Gomez)
Games 3 (16) Goals 5 (Ramis, McArthur, Watson, McCarthy(2)) Points 7
i.e. Goals impact in games concerned(WHU/Spurs/QPR) significant !
Improved goal output required to support front 3 (ditto 2011/12)9 December 2012 at 4:57 pm #97848For all the slagging off of kone santo and Gomez the fact is for once under Martinez we are scoring goals this season and its defending which is the problem not just today, think we’re averaging 2 a game conceeded
Precisely, a point I’ve made a couple of occasions before, indeed some weeks ago (nothing’s changed)
Winning 3-2 every week, …its not going to happen.
A few facts and figures to focus the mind :
= Points earned (teams played in PL 2011/12) Played 12 Points SIX
(excludes WHU, Reading, Soton obviously)
Dress it up anyway you like (good performances etc.), not good enough.
Points (not performances) make prizes !!= defence: 2 goals /game
Our ongoing fundamental inability to defend set-pieces, crosses etc.
The likes of Norwich and Southampton all recently conceding goals for
fun have gone on a roll, … Back to basics approach … we should be
able to do likewise (start from the premise of NOT conceding a goal)Unfortunate 2nd goal conceded yesterday. That aside, thought Lopez had
another good game; like his ability to anticipate and time the tackle
/take the ball cleanly. Probably better in that regard than Caldwell,
certainly Ramis.The return of the likes of Caldwell (lucky to stay on at Newcastle)and
Ramis in itself will do little for the Goals Against Column …. we’ve
been running at 2 goals /game practically all season.Something a little more concerted will be required …. The team,as a
whole, stepping up to the plate.Would like to see Alcaraz back (difference he might make?), concerning
the fact that no likely date of return is currently known= Goal output (excl. Di Santo, Kone, Gomez)
Games 3 (16) Goals 5 (Ramis, McArthur, Watson, McCarthy(2)) Points 7
i.e. Goals impact in games concerned(WHU/Spurs/QPR) significant !
Improved goal output required to support front 3 (ditto 2011/12)[/quote]Are you a professor or something ! :dry:
9 December 2012 at 5:04 pm #97850No ..he must be a motivational coach..any more of this and I’m going on the gin . :side:
9 December 2012 at 5:07 pm #97852For all the slagging off of kone santo and Gomez the fact is for once under Martinez we are scoring goals this season and its defending which is the problem not just today, think we’re averaging 2 a game conceeded
Precisely, a point I’ve made a couple of occasions before, indeed some weeks ago (nothing’s changed)
Winning 3-2 every week, …its not going to happen.
A few facts and figures to focus the mind :
= Points earned (teams played in PL 2011/12) Played 12 Points SIX
(excludes WHU, Reading, Soton obviously)
Dress it up anyway you like (good performances etc.), not good enough.
Points (not performances) make prizes !!= defence: 2 goals /game
Our ongoing fundamental inability to defend set-pieces, crosses etc.
The likes of Norwich and Southampton all recently conceding goals for
fun have gone on a roll, … Back to basics approach … we should be
able to do likewise (start from the premise of NOT conceding a goal)Unfortunate 2nd goal conceded yesterday. That aside, thought Lopez had
another good game; like his ability to anticipate and time the tackle
/take the ball cleanly. Probably better in that regard than Caldwell,
certainly Ramis.The return of the likes of Caldwell (lucky to stay on at Newcastle)and
Ramis in itself will do little for the Goals Against Column …. we’ve
been running at 2 goals /game practically all season.Something a little more concerted will be required …. The team,as a
whole, stepping up to the plate.Would like to see Alcaraz back (difference he might make?), concerning
the fact that no likely date of return is currently known= Goal output (excl. Di Santo, Kone, Gomez)
Games 3 (16) Goals 5 (Ramis, McArthur, Watson, McCarthy(2)) Points 7
i.e. Goals impact in games concerned(WHU/Spurs/QPR) significant !
Improved goal output required to support front 3 (ditto 2011/12)[/quote]Are you a professor or something ! :dry:[/quote]
I, Manchester Business School.
9 December 2012 at 5:20 pm #97854No ..he must be a motivational coach..any more of this and I’m going on the gin . :side:Go hit the gin …
:sick: :sick:
I suspect Messrs Hughton, Adkins etc. weren’t pussy footing around when their respective teams were shipping goals for fun, do you ????
Back to basics, few home truths told etc. etc.
Understand and address the shortcomings and the tide will surely turn. Hard work always reaps rewards.
Stick yer head in the sand ? Get what you always got !!
Mine’s a whisky, ta very much.
9 December 2012 at 5:27 pm #97855What can RM do with the injury situe? Believe ..it will get a whole lot better when we have a defence to play.
9 December 2012 at 5:45 pm #97856When did we last have a prolific striker. None under Bobs tactics. Is that the problem?
With a few long balls cutting out the tippy tappy maybe the strikers may start scoring goals.
In reality we have to live with what we have whatever that is.
Premier League after all is nothing to do with fans and supporters at all and our opinions mean
SFA on here and anywhere else. We just have to put up with the overated dross like we have done now going on in to 4 seasons.
Hugo Franco Moses Scotland Sammon Kone Boseli and others It isnt a coincidence that they dont score goals at Latics. Face it if they did they would be sold off cheaply anyway to keep subsidising the fortune that all the players take out of our game.How many goals did Di Santo score for chelski,blackburn when on loan…………. nothing to do with bobbys tactics and your watching the wrong team if you want the long ball route. Has for Moses at 1 point last season he was at the top of the list in the premier league for most attempts on goal
9 December 2012 at 6:17 pm #97857When did we last have a prolific striker. None under Bobs tactics. Is that the problem?
With a few long balls cutting out the tippy tappy maybe the strikers may start scoring goals.
In reality we have to live with what we have whatever that is.
Premier League after all is nothing to do with fans and supporters at all and our opinions mean
SFA on here and anywhere else. We just have to put up with the overated dross like we have done now going on in to 4 seasons.
Hugo Franco Moses Scotland Sammon Kone Boseli and others It isnt a coincidence that they dont score goals at Latics. Face it if they did they would be sold off cheaply anyway to keep subsidising the fortune that all the players take out of our game.How many goals did Di Santo score for chelski,blackburn when on loan…………. nothing to do with bobbys tactics and your watching the wrong team if you want the long ball route. Has for Moses at 1 point last season he was at the top of the list in the premier league for most attempts on goal[/quote]
Unfortunately, at the time he scored away at WBA (last season) he also probably had the worst goals /attempts ratio since God invented Man !(commented on by MOTD pundits at the time)
Thankfully, he picked up at the end …
On the subject of taking taking chances, as Booby said only yesterday (Sunday Mail), we need too many chances to score a goal.
9 December 2012 at 6:43 pm #97859When did we last have a prolific striker. None under Bobs tactics. Is that the problem?
With a few long balls cutting out the tippy tappy maybe the strikers may start scoring goals.
In reality we have to live with what we have whatever that is.
Premier League after all is nothing to do with fans and supporters at all and our opinions mean
SFA on here and anywhere else. We just have to put up with the overated dross like we have done now going on in to 4 seasons.
Hugo Franco Moses Scotland Sammon Kone Boseli and others It isnt a coincidence that they dont score goals at Latics. Face it if they did they would be sold off cheaply anyway to keep subsidising the fortune that all the players take out of our game.How many goals did Di Santo score for chelski,blackburn when on loan…………. nothing to do with bobbys tactics and your watching the wrong team if you want the long ball route. Has for Moses at 1 point last season he was at the top of the list in the premier league for most attempts on goal[/quote]
Unfortunately, at the time he scored away at WBA (last season) he also probably had the worst goals /attempts ratio since God invented Man !(commented on by MOTD pundits at the time)
Thankfully, he picked up at the end …
On the subject of taking taking chances, as Booby said only yesterday (Sunday Mail), we need too many chances to score a goal.[/quote]
I think you”ve missed my point jpc,we signed Di Santo who didnt have a goal scoring record,moses was getting the chances and still wasnt scoring so donnys statement about bobbys tactics isnt correct -
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