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    MR BrownbillMR Brownbill
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    Ivory coast just lost. So at least 1 piece of good news !

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    griffChris Griffin
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    Every cloud… :)

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    MR BrownbillMR Brownbill
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    Just depends how long the well dressed one decides he needs to rest after his bench warming session .

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    LostockHallLaticLostockHallLatic
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    Don’t they have to play for 3rd & 4th place, next Friday before the final on Sunday ?

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    thty5yearswafctrevor hoy
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    Don’t they have to play for 3rd & 4th place, next Friday before the final on Sunday ?

    It was a Quqter final wasn’t it think the semi’s are mid week and the final next weekend

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    The sooner we get him back the better. I blame being ill for working this out, and not merely because I’m a boring bar steward. Seems like he could well become our most prolific Premiership goalscorer. The below is a our Premiership goal scoring rate per game:

    Amr Zaki 2.9
    Aroune Kone 3.5
    Henri Camara 3.5
    Jason Roberts 4.3
    Marcus Bent 4.4
    Hugo Rodallega 4.7
    Charles N’Zogbia 5.5
    Emile Heskey 5.5
    Franco Di Santo 6.2
    Lee McCulloch 6.6
    Antonio Valencia 7.8
    Jordi Gomez 8.3
    Jimmy Bullard 9
    Ryan Taylor 9.3
    Victor Moses 9.3
    Paul Scharner 10.4

    #102541
    mighty_affStu L
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    The sooner we get him back the better. I blame being ill for working this out, and not merely because I’m a boring bar steward. Seems like he could well become our most prolific Premiership goalscorer. The below is a our Premiership goal scoring rate per game:

    Amr Zaki 2.9
    Aroune Kone 3.5
    Henri Camara 3.5
    Jason Roberts 4.3
    Marcus Bent 4.4
    Hugo Rodallega 4.7
    Charles N’Zogbia 5.5
    Emile Heskey 5.5
    Franco Di Santo 6.2
    Lee McCulloch 6.6
    Antonio Valencia 7.8
    Jordi Gomez 8.3
    Jimmy Bullard 9
    Ryan Taylor 9.3
    Victor Moses 9.3
    Paul Scharner 10.4

    Can’t be right this. Jason Scotland is missing.

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    mighty_affStu L
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    In fact, found this little snippet on him from a recent game – his comments about his own ability are staggeringly modest.

    Scotland came off the bench in the second half to double the South Yorkshire side’s lead – after Chris Dagnall’s opener – the Reds emerging 2-0 winners over Millwall at Oakwell.

    The result means Barnsley, as well as fellow bottom-three team, Bristol City, who beat Watford 2-0 at Ashton Gate, are now four points behind the Blues, although both have far superior goal differences.

    “Jason played his part. But I’m more excited about his quality on the ball, his passing, his movement, wow, his one-touches – brilliant,” said Flitcroft.

    “His finish was exquisite, but I look at his all-round game, his intelligence, runs and link-up play and he said to me before the game: ‘Don’t worry about me Flick, I’ve got an unbelievable touch and my movement is great.’

    “I’ve only known him 24 hours, but there’s already an excitement round him and a calmness and I look forward to working with him because he might have found a home here.”

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    I do beg your Pardon.

    Jason Scotland 32

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    The sooner we get him back the better. I blame being ill for working this out, and not merely because I’m a boring bar steward. Seems like he could well become our most prolific Premiership goalscorer. The below is a our Premiership goal scoring rate per game:

    Amr Zaki 2.9
    Aroune Kone 3.5
    Henri Camara 3.5
    Jason Roberts 4.3
    Marcus Bent 4.4
    Hugo Rodallega 4.7
    Charles N’Zogbia 5.5
    Emile Heskey 5.5
    Franco Di Santo 6.2
    Lee McCulloch 6.6
    Antonio Valencia 7.8
    Jordi Gomez 8.3
    Jimmy Bullard 9
    Ryan Taylor 9.3
    Victor Moses 9.3
    Paul Scharner 10.4

    thats exactly what Martinez bases his football on ,,stats.
    So does that make Ryan Taylor a better player than Moses because he banged a few free kicks in ?.
    And that Bent was a better player than Rodallega says it all.

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    StandishWalkerStandishWalker
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    The sooner we get him back the better. I blame being ill for working this out, and not merely because I’m a boring bar steward. Seems like he could well become our most prolific Premiership goalscorer. The below is a our Premiership goal scoring rate per game:

    Amr Zaki 2.9
    Aroune Kone 3.5
    Henri Camara 3.5
    Jason Roberts 4.3
    Marcus Bent 4.4
    Hugo Rodallega 4.7
    Charles N’Zogbia 5.5
    Emile Heskey 5.5
    Franco Di Santo 6.2
    Lee McCulloch 6.6
    Antonio Valencia 7.8
    Jordi Gomez 8.3
    Jimmy Bullard 9
    Ryan Taylor 9.3
    Victor Moses 9.3
    Paul Scharner 10.4

    thats exactly what Martinez bases his football on ,,stats.
    So does that make Ryan Taylor a better player than Moses because he banged a few free kicks in ?.
    And that Bent was a better player than Rodallega says it all.[/quote]
    He doesn’t. He bases it on possession – ie. if you have possession you’re more likely to score and the opposition is less likely.

    If he based it on stats, Rodallega would be in the team and Di Santo would be the one playing elsewhere.

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    MR BrownbillMR Brownbill
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    That possession chestnut again. Follow stats throughout Europe and you’ll see the team with most possession doesn’t win as many games as you would imagine, we are 1 prime example. It’s not how long you have the ball it’s what you do with it when you have it !

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    StandishWalkerStandishWalker
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    That possession chestnut again. Follow stats throughout Europe and you’ll see the team with most possession doesn’t win as many games as you would imagine, we are 1 prime example. It’s not how long you have the ball it’s what you do with it when you have it !

    There’s nothing chestnutty about it. It’s common sense. You’re more likely to score if you have the ball than you are if you don’t have the ball, and the opposition are less likely to score if they don’t have the ball than if they do have it.

    Simple as that.

    #102571
    MR BrownbillMR Brownbill
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    “It only takes a second to score a goal”,remember that one ?.You don’t have to replicate 70’s Holland to win games.Valencia only had 34% possession against Barcelona last night yet had more shots ,more shots on target ,more corners and managed a draw.We still pass the air out the ball yet create little.

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    griffChris Griffin
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    That possession chestnut again. Follow stats throughout Europe and you’ll see the team with most possession doesn’t win as many games as you would imagine, we are 1 prime example. It’s not how long you have the ball it’s what you do with it when you have it !

    Ah, that old “442, lump it forward quickly to a big ‘un and a little ‘un up front” chestnut, eh?

    Trouble is, there’s no guarantee that that approach will work, either

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