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    19321932
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      No problem with people not wanting to go. Nobody is going to tell me I shouldn’t go and slag me off for if I do. Which is what I believe has been happening on social media tonight.

      I was more than likely not going – I must just change my mind now

      That’s not what I’ve tried to achieve with that article Griff. It would be great if we could get a united effort to make a statement here, but if people feel that’s not the right thing to do then it’s their call. There will always be people who overstep the mark, but the core point remains – clubs are taking the mick and will continue to until fans make it clear they’re not having it anymore.[/quote]

      No, I’m sure you weren’t, and i wasn’t getting at you. In fact, I’ll be honest, I hadn’t even read your article (sorry) when I posted. I was reacting to some comments I’d seen on Facebook and Twitter in which people were apparently being criticised for “breaking the boycott”.

      As I said, no issue whatsoever with people who decide not to go on principle. Don’t see why it should be Wigan Athletic fans who take this whole pricing issue all upon themselves and any effect will diluted by those who – quite rightly, if they choose to – will still want to pay the (ridiculous and scandalous) ticket price and go.[/quote]

      I wouldn’t say we’re on our own. Fans of many clubs are currently trying to raise awareness and support against the ridiculous and scandalous cost of football. We just have an opportunity to try and do something. As I’ve said in my letter to the club and WASC today (I won’t post a link, I’m not here to advertise) this is about saying it’s wrong to charge those prices, not that it’s wrong to pay them. As you say, people have the right to do that, but it’s a fairly obvious point that continuing to pay isn’t likely to drive change.

      Yes, I admit that there will be people who chose to go to this game, but everything has to start somewhere.

      #136750

      No problem with people not wanting to go. Nobody is going to tell me I shouldn’t go and slag me off for if I do. Which is what I believe has been happening on social media tonight.

      I was more than likely not going – I must just change my mind now

      That’s not what I’ve tried to achieve with that article Griff. It would be great if we could get a united effort to make a statement here, but if people feel that’s not the right thing to do then it’s their call. There will always be people who overstep the mark, but the core point remains – clubs are taking the mick and will continue to until fans make it clear they’re not having it anymore.[/quote]

      No, I’m sure you weren’t, and i wasn’t getting at you. In fact, I’ll be honest, I hadn’t even read your article (sorry) when I posted. I was reacting to some comments I’d seen on Facebook and Twitter in which people were apparently being criticised for “breaking the boycott”.

      As I said, no issue whatsoever with people who decide not to go on principle. Don’t see why it should be Wigan Athletic fans who take this whole pricing issue all upon themselves and any effect will diluted by those who – quite rightly, if they choose to – will still want to pay the (ridiculous and scandalous) ticket price and go.[/quote]

      I wouldn’t say we’re on our own. Fans of many clubs are currently trying to raise awareness and support against the ridiculous and scandalous cost of football. We just have an opportunity to try and do something. As I’ve said in my letter to the club and WASC today (I won’t post a link, I’m not here to advertise) this is about saying it’s wrong to charge those prices, not that it’s wrong to pay them. As you say, people have the right to do that, but it’s a fairly obvious point that continuing to pay isn’t likely to drive change.

      Yes, I admit that there will be people who chose to go to this game, but everything has to start somewhere.[/quote]

      I meant ‘on our own’ in the sense that we’d probbaly be the first set of fans to pro-actively totally boycott a game. If it was totally boycotted, then it would indeed send out a powerful messsage – that, as well as being racists, us Wiganers are tight-fsted twats too, for starters. ;)

      I’ve seen the link you mention elsewhere this afternoon. Anyway, I wish you the very best of luck with it, mate.

      #136753
      jrfatfanjrfatfan
      Player

        I’m gonna make my stand by buying an under 16’s ticket for 18 dabs, donning a Jimmy Krankie school uniform, wig and shimmying in on my knees with a pair of pumps attached to them. fek um! :blink:

        No change there then :P[/quote]

        It’s funny you should say that George, I once went to Scarborough watching the tics many moons ago and went with my mate and his dad.

        We meandered up to the Turnstiles and I followed the owd chap, he was about 70, into the ground and his lad went through the adjacent turnstile. It was only part way through the match when I said to my mate, not bad prices here, to which he replied, why how much have you paid. I’d only gone through the juniors and OAP turnstile.
        At that time I would have been in my 30’s so took it that they thought I was a junior rather than an OAP. :dry:
        Can you remember the game, there were quite a few of our lads thrown out and they sat on a bank located outside one corner of the ground, watching the game with a few coppers round them for company.

        It might have been the season we gave them a tonkin at Springy when Martinez notched a blinder. :cheer:

        From Matlock to ManU
        What a journey!

        #136755
        #136758

        No problem with people not wanting to go. Nobody is going to tell me I shouldn’t go and slag me off for if I do. Which is what I believe has been happening on social media tonight.

        I was more than likely not going – I must just change my mind now

        That’s not what I’ve tried to achieve with that article Griff. It would be great if we could get a united effort to make a statement here, but if people feel that’s not the right thing to do then it’s their call. There will always be people who overstep the mark, but the core point remains – clubs are taking the mick and will continue to until fans make it clear they’re not having it anymore.[/quote]

        I like the sentiment of your article and may I applaude the initiative to get some well needed funds in for the Brick Homeless Charity.

        Well done.

        #136766
        vincehillvinceHill
        Player

          I suppose the owners of the clubs that charge these crazy prices justify it by comparing it to rock concerts and theatre trips as about the same
          Few questions to Leeds Football Club

          Have we got a guarantee of entertainment?
          Will we have an unrestricted view?
          Will it be comfortable seating ?
          Will we be treated with the respect by the staff?
          is our safety GUARANTEED on entering and leaving the stadium ?

          I would be surprised if they could answer YES to any of the above .

          #136769
          I meant ‘on our own’ in the sense that we’d probbaly be the first set of fans to pro-actively totally boycott a game. If it was totally boycotted, then it would indeed send out a powerful messsage – that, as well as being racists, us Wiganers are tight-fsted twats too, for starters. ;)

          I’ve seen the link you mention elsewhere this afternoon. Anyway, I wish you the very best of luck with it, mate.

          To be fair, if you remember Latics second season in the top flight when the club ramped up the ticket prices significantly.
          Some of the “new” Latics fans voted with their feet, although with the increase in price, the drop off in home fans probably didn’t make much difference in income.
          However, the Man City fans objected to the price hike and organised a boycott so instead of getting 25k on like there’d been the season before or 21k as had been on the previous week against United, there were only about a thousand (if that) City fans there & there was only 16k on.
          Shortly afterwards the club dropped prices across the board.

          So Latics fans wouldn’t be the first and it can have an impact. I also seem to remember supporters of other clubs doing it, possibly to lesser degrees of success, at places like Birmingham (when in the top flight) who had massive price hikes for their “bigger” games.

          I’ve long said that instead of moaning about how expensive it is that if prices reach a level where an individual believes they’re being ripped off then they should simply not pay it & not go. As long as they pay it & whinge then clubs will continue to charge it.

          On this particular game, I’m torn – I don’t get to many games these days & even less away games (plus Leeds is one of only about 15 league grounds that I’ve never been to) so I’d arranged to go with some mates on a Boxing Day booze up for it.
          36 quid is way above my threshold of what I’d be prepared to pay for a game of 2nd flight football though but the emotional tug of the game means I’m now undecided & if I go it’ll make me a hypocrite (plus the wife’ll kill me for paying “How much?? for a game of football??”

          I do however think that for any boycott to have any chance of forcing the prices down, the organisers need to let Leeds United know & their supporters organisations(who for all we know may be equally pished off) so that it doesn’t look merely like “no fans” Wigan again

          #136772

          I meant ‘on our own’ in the sense that we’d probbaly be the first set of fans to pro-actively totally boycott a game. If it was totally boycotted, then it would indeed send out a powerful messsage – that, as well as being racists, us Wiganers are tight-fsted twats too, for starters. ;)

          I’ve seen the link you mention elsewhere this afternoon. Anyway, I wish you the very best of luck with it, mate.

          To be fair, if you remember Latics second season in the top flight when the club ramped up the ticket prices significantly.
          Some of the “new” Latics fans voted with their feet, although with the increase in price, the drop off in home fans probably didn’t make much difference in income.
          However, the Man City fans objected to the price hike and organised a boycott so instead of getting 25k on like there’d been the season before or 21k as had been on the previous week against United, there were only about a thousand (if that) City fans there & there was only 16k on.
          Shortly afterwards the club dropped prices across the board.

          So Latics fans wouldn’t be the first and it can have an impact. I also seem to remember supporters of other clubs doing it, possibly to lesser degrees of success, at places like Birmingham (when in the top flight) who had massive price hikes for their “bigger” games.

          I’ve long said that instead of moaning about how expensive it is that if prices reach a level where an individual believes they’re being ripped off then they should simply not pay it & not go. As long as they pay it & whinge then clubs will continue to charge it.

          On this particular game, I’m torn – I don’t get to many games these days & even less away games (plus Leeds is one of only about 15 league grounds that I’ve never been to) so I’d arranged to go with some mates on a Boxing Day booze up for it.
          36 quid is way above my threshold of what I’d be prepared to pay for a game of 2nd flight football though but the emotional tug of the game means I’m now undecided & if I go it’ll make me a hypocrite (plus the wife’ll kill me for paying “How much?? for a game of football??”

          I do however think that for any boycott to have any chance of forcing the prices down, the organisers need to let Leeds United know & their supporters organisations(who for all we know may be equally pished off) so that it doesn’t look merely like “no fans” Wigan again[/quote]

          Some good points there TL, especially the last one.

          #136774
          filmossfilmoss
          Player

            I thought our fans had been boycotting away games for years! :)

            #136776
            The EggThe Egg
            Chairman
              I’ve long said that instead of moaning about how expensive it is that if prices reach a level where an individual believes they’re being ripped off then they should simply not pay it & not go. As long as they pay it & whinge then clubs will continue to charge it.

              Nail on the head there. I used to go to every game home and away until our second season in the top flight when I simply couldn’t afford it any longer. Since then prices have increased meaning I’ve even less chance of going and now I attend about 3 away games a season if I’m lucky.

              Clubs will continue to charge a high price though because there will always be someone that goes. The only way to stop it is to not go at all and that will never happen for any club.

              #136778
              Tez HTerry Hill
              Player

                They talk about that Wimbledon game not being cashed in like all the tickets are £4.

                Adult standing is £16 and seating is £25 the £4 tickets are for kids standing I presume.

                I stopped paying anything £30 or over in the Prem after the first yr. I now don’t feel like I have to go anywhere these days, not like I used to.

                I’m just glad I’m not growing up now having to pay daft money to watch a football match, we used to go all over the country for the price of a Leeds ticket.

                #136782
                19321932
                Player
                  I do however think that for any boycott to have any chance of forcing the prices down, the organisers need to let Leeds United know & their supporters organisations(who for all we know may be equally pished off) so that it doesn’t look merely like “no fans” Wigan again

                  I’ve been in touch with their leading fanzine and their supporters’ organisation and have had support from both. I’ve also asked our club and the supporters club to make contact with their opposite numbers and let them know (not had a response off either yet)

                  #136783
                  Tez HTerry Hill
                  Player

                    Seems to be a comment from the club in the rugby post that they can’t do anything

                    #136786
                    19321932
                    Player
                      Seems to be a comment from the club in the rugby post that they can’t do anything

                      That was given before I wrote to them. They can’t do anything about the prices, but they can show support for their fans who are trying to do/say something about it. What I’ve asked them to do is:

                      • Publicly demonstrate support for those fans that are choosing not to attend the Leeds. It will be a hard choice for some of them and to know that the club and supporters club are behind them will be of comfort.
                      • Recognise that the boycott is about saying that it is wrong to charge those sorts of prices, not to pay them. Whilst it would be great if there was 100% non-attendance at the Leeds game this should not be about driving rifts between anyone who chooses to boycott and anyone who chooses to attend.
                      • Promote the attempts to raise money for The Brick Homeless charity via a Virgin Money Giving page at http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/LeedsBoycott
                      • Make contact with Leeds Utd FC and their supporters’ organisations to make it clear that there is an active boycott, that you support it and support the idea of making football affordable.

                      Too much?

                      #136787
                      Tez HTerry Hill
                      Player

                        not at all mate

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