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Just before its demise, can the lightside members explain to me what the difference is between Martinez leaving now to further is career and bruce leaving to further his.
And will Martinez get the vitriolic reaction that bruce got and if not WHY?
Is no more,R.I.P ;)
Just before its demise, can the lightside members explain to me what the difference is between Martinez leaving now to further is career and bruce leaving to further his.
And will Martinez get the vitriolic reaction that bruce got and if not WHY?[/quote]
1.) Martinez hasnt left after a year and a half.
2.) He wont badmouth the club after he leaves.
3.) Wigan to Sunderland or Wigan to Everton? I know which I consider real career progression.
And no he wont as he won the FA cup forever installing him as a true Latics Legend.
Oh yeah I forgot Bruce finished higher up the table once… What an acheivement.
I suspect that if the current darkside get their wish for a “live now, pay later”, hoof-ball loving, “get stuck in” merchant as the next manager then all that will happen is that the lightsidedarkside will just switch sides.
Bruce did not leave us after we had been relegated, he left to go to a club that has 10k more fans a week than Everton, a team that has a big modern stadium a team that had twice as much spending power as Everton have.
For christs sake everton can’t even afford a new ground, they play in a shitole, by their own admission they have restricted spending power, how can that be a career move – on top of that the fans don’t even want him.
Lastly the “badmouthing” talk about ammounted to Bruce sayin tongue in cheek “he felt he could now shop at harrods” given the money he did spend what was wrong with that statement.
Which ever way you put it martinez has shown he is not up for the fight of taking us back up just like he didn’t have the stomach for the Liverpool job which was twice the job the everton one is.
You say The everton job is a “real career progression” I suggest its a poor option from a serial bottler.
glad in a way he has gone when looking at statistics over is management awfull reading
anyone else they would have been crucified
but what as made this worse got us relegated then runs away
i wont remember bob the cup winner but bottom three bob the relegation runnerBruce did not leave us after we had been relegated, he left to go to a club that has 10k more fans a week than Everton, a team that has a big modern stadium a team that had twice as much spending power as Everton have.For christs sake everton can’t even afford a new ground, they play in a shitole, by their own admission they have restricted spending power, how can that be a career move – on top of that the fans don’t even want him.
Lastly the “badmouthing” talk about ammounted to Bruce sayin tongue in cheek “he felt he could now shop at harrods” given the money he did spend what was wrong with that statement.
Which ever way you put it martinez has shown he is not up for the fight of taking us back up just like he didn’t have the stomach for the Liverpool job which was twice the job the everton one is.
You say The everton job is a “real career progression” I suggest its a poor option from a serial bottler.
For someone who harps on about Bruce’s league finish you seem pretty dismissive of the fact that Everton have finished higher than Sunderland for the best part of a decade…
Everton is a better job than Sunderland but you can pap on until you are blue in the face you wont convince me otherwise.
Dont cut the quote either it was roughly “I can now shop at harrods instead of tescos” – That is disrespectful in my book expecially towards a club who gave him a much needed lifeline as he was on the rocks at Birmingham.
glad in a way he has gone when looking at statistics over is management awfull reading
anyone else they would have been crucified
but what as made this worse got us relegated then runs away
i wont remember bob the cup winner but bottom three bob the relegation runnerI didnt cut the quote, I could not remember who he used as the comparison, I actually thought it was Aldi.
I have never mentioned once where Bruce finished in the league, let alone “harp” on about it, my arguements on here after he left and when martinez was appointed was the way bruce was demonised.
Bruce was not on the rocks at Birmingham, didn’t Whelan also pay Birmingham compensation for him.
I didnt cut the quote, I could not remember who he used as the comparison, I actually thought it was Aldi.I have never mentioned once where Bruce finished in the league, let alone “harp” on about it, my arguements on here after he left and when martinez was appointed was the way bruce was demonised.
Bruce was not on the rocks at Birmingham, didn’t Whelan also pay Birmingham compensation for him.
Another difference between the two I forgot to mention was that it was the second time he had left us with a bad taste in our mouths so the ugly git was already on thin ice.
He was on the rocks. I cant remember the ins and outs of it all but the new owner came in made it public they didnt want him but didnt seem to have the money to pay up his contract so it all became a bit embarassing…
In all honesty I may have made some of the above up in my head as I have been known to do but I am sure it was something along those lines and he was happy as larry to get the job.
You see the question between the two for me is what type of manager you want.
I think of Bruce as a Redknapp type who openly admits that he thinks football games are won by having better players (makes you think what is the point in having him there if that is the case) Obviously there is some truth in that statement but someone with half the money can do twice the job of those two morons given the correct environment.
I would like to see us continue with our policy of investing in youth and progressing as a club off the field as spending money beyond our means was the metaphorical equivelent of blowing up a balloon until it pops.
Okay so we might have to do away with the balloon but we will come back with an extra strength rubber johnny so in the future we can blow alot more without worrying about our bubble bursting.
The lightside have finally had the eyeshields surgically removed and lo and behold what do they see..????….Answer.. The Championship !!..Personally I think a move to Everton is the ideal move and not as Whelan quoted a much bigger club.Get real Dave .How does his cv qualify him for a really big club post ? I would have liked him to stay and prove Whelans hype by getting us back in the prem but another poor league season and jobs like Everton would be vanishing in the distance.I think Robbie knows this so good luck to him (I think he’ll need it ) and thanks for fantastic end to his time here.
The lightside have finally had the eyeshields surgically removed and lo and behold what do they see..????….Answer.. The Championship !!..Personally I think a move to Everton is the ideal move and not as Whelan quoted a much bigger club.Get real Dave .How does his cv qualify him for a really big club post ? I would have liked him to stay and prove Whelans hype by getting us back in the prem but another poor league season and jobs like Everton would be vanishing in the distance.I think Robbie knows this so good luck to him (I think he’ll need it ) and thanks for fantastic end to his time here.The first part of your post is stupid.
We could of used this thread to put our differences aside and unite as one under whoever the new manager is but I guess whoever is appointed people like you will still be morons :P
Dont go counting your chickens yet though.
We could get any old muppet in charge next season and you could be begging for Roberto back.
Hopefully we continue the good work that has already been put in place so we can continue to move forward off the field while sorting out the step backwards on the field.
The lightside have finally had the eyeshields surgically removed and lo and behold what do they see..????….Answer.. The Championship !!..Don’t be daft, one of the reasons we were on the light side is because we have been anticipating releagtion for eight years and were quite amazed that someone managed to avoid it for four years whilst operating unde rthe constraints that he did, developed the club as he has and – behind our surgically placed eyeshields – played football that was pleasing to watch.
Anyway, he has gone now. Good luck to him, let’s see who are the first to start slagging off the new man.
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