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    filmossfilmoss
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      I guess that some of us could see how things were unfurling before our very eyes whilst others refused to accept it ! It was mid January when I realised that we would more than likely go down and despite a very brief period of hope ( 1 week ) my fears were eventually confirmed ! Darkside ? No. realist ? Yes ! ;)

      http://www.cockneylatic.co.uk/forum/5-cockney-latic-main-forum/101549-and-then-there-were-four

      Bravo Mystic Meg, there is a difference to believing we will go down and wanting to believe we will stay up. personally I have loved the bumpy ride that was Martinez reign, and accepted the relegation when it came.

      The thing the darkside will never understand is supporting your team and enjoying it while it lasts. being a defeatest and accepting fates before they have come to pass. Must have been a sad old time for you.

      Shoudl have had your money on us for the cup at the start of the season 500-1 lol[/quote]

      If the truth be known, the FA Cup win papered over the cracks of a pretty disappointing final Premiership campaign that ultimately ended with us bailing out ! I wanted us to survive but saw hardly anything to give me hope and that is what I wrote, say what you see ! Bar the FA Cup there was not too much to enjoy about last season especially the the home form which was dire to say the least ! If you chose to suppress the very fact that we played like a relegation destined side then fair enough but deep down I knew that our 8 year stint was coming to an end but it was far far from a sad old time for me because I had more or less accepted the fact and was prepared ![/quote]

      So had all the Lightsiders, but they didn’t keep faffing on about it like spoilt kids. B) :P[/quote]

      Do you really want me to dredge up some of your super confident of avoiding the drop nuggets JR !! :cheer:[/quote]

      Go ahead Phil by all means go for it. Do you really think I am ashamed of backing my team through thick and thin, its what a true supporter does isn’t it? B)[/quote]

      So you didnt walk away from the DW on numerous occasions last season thinking ” Well that was shit ” did you not ? I did but it didn’t mean that I had not just got behind my team for 90mins and tried to gee them on ! Oh I did my bit, alas the team didn’t do theirs and down they went ! So I did back them through thick and thin, the difference being that I am not a one dimensional person and I have opinions that were deemed to be negative yet with hindsight realistic which is the whole point of my thread ! You keep smiling and nodding and I will form opinions ![/quote]

      I think if you ask the lads I go to games with, they will tell you that I am usually the one who walks off the DW giving credit to the side that’s took 3 points of us and pointing out were I think we’ve gone wrong. Within a couple of hours after the game I’ve kicked the cat, bit the wife’s head off, clod half mi tea in the bin and on my 4th pint, I start looking forward to the next game and the positive vibes come back.
      Do I feel the need to come on here slagging the manager, chairman, players off….err no.
      Do I bite when the D/S come on winging like fek…….unfortunately yes.
      You see I’ve been used to defending my club over the years from cheap jibes from chubster fans and the big club followers.
      It just pishes me orf when our own fans do it to a degree teetering on hatred, not that you are in that catagory.

      You seem to be a poster who changes your views depending on the outcome of each game almost.

      I remember Griff saying a while back that if we go down, you just know that the D/S’s will be in their element bleating on about “I told you so”
      So well done, you told me so and well done for having a realistic opinion, great stuff pal.[/quote]

      Not really saying I told you so. I was looking back ( Hence thread title )because I was looking at the users list Karma standings and wondered who this ‘Revolution Saint’ person was with a karma of 5 and I got it into my head that they were a RL fan due to the name. I also noticed that there were a couple of the RL posters with positive karmas and so I clicked on RS’s posts and my ” And Then There Were 4 ” thread was one they had posted on ! ( Are you following me ! ha ha ha ) Anyhow, to cut a short story long I thought I would highlight a little bit of blind faith that was going on because we were playing pretty badly at the time ( Winless in last 6 and just been dicked 4-1 by Chelsea )and I was fearing the worst. As it happens we won 3 of the next 4 and it looked like I would emerge with egg on my face but a poor April reignited my initial fears. Anyhow, at the end of the day I was bored ha ha ha Oh and I told ya so ! :cheer:

      #116574

      I guess that some of us could see how things were unfurling before our very eyes whilst others refused to accept it ! It was mid January when I realised that we would more than likely go down and despite a very brief period of hope ( 1 week ) my fears were eventually confirmed ! Darkside ? No. realist ? Yes ! ;)

      http://www.cockneylatic.co.uk/forum/5-cockney-latic-main-forum/101549-and-then-there-were-four

      Bravo Mystic Meg, there is a difference to believing we will go down and wanting to believe we will stay up. personally I have loved the bumpy ride that was Martinez reign, and accepted the relegation when it came.

      The thing the darkside will never understand is supporting your team and enjoying it while it lasts. being a defeatest and accepting fates before they have come to pass. Must have been a sad old time for you.

      Shoudl have had your money on us for the cup at the start of the season 500-1 lol[/quote]

      If the truth be known, the FA Cup win papered over the cracks of a pretty disappointing final Premiership campaign that ultimately ended with us bailing out ! I wanted us to survive but saw hardly anything to give me hope and that is what I wrote, say what you see ! Bar the FA Cup there was not too much to enjoy about last season especially the the home form which was dire to say the least ! If you chose to suppress the very fact that we played like a relegation destined side then fair enough but deep down I knew that our 8 year stint was coming to an end but it was far far from a sad old time for me because I had more or less accepted the fact and was prepared ![/quote]

      So had all the Lightsiders, but they didn’t keep faffing on about it like spoilt kids. B) :P[/quote]

      Do you really want me to dredge up some of your super confident of avoiding the drop nuggets JR !! :cheer:[/quote]

      Go ahead Phil by all means go for it. Do you really think I am ashamed of backing my team through thick and thin, its what a true supporter does isn’t it? B)[/quote]

      So you didnt walk away from the DW on numerous occasions last season thinking ” Well that was shit ” did you not ? I did but it didn’t mean that I had not just got behind my team for 90mins and tried to gee them on ! Oh I did my bit, alas the team didn’t do theirs and down they went ! So I did back them through thick and thin, the difference being that I am not a one dimensional person and I have opinions that were deemed to be negative yet with hindsight realistic which is the whole point of my thread ! You keep smiling and nodding and I will form opinions ![/quote]

      I think if you ask the lads I go to games with, they will tell you that I am usually the one who walks off the DW giving credit to the side that’s took 3 points of us and pointing out were I think we’ve gone wrong. Within a couple of hours after the game I’ve kicked the cat, bit the wife’s head off, clod half mi tea in the bin and on my 4th pint, I start looking forward to the next game and the positive vibes come back.
      Do I feel the need to come on here slagging the manager, chairman, players off….err no.
      Do I bite when the D/S come on winging like fek…….unfortunately yes.
      You see I’ve been used to defending my club over the years from cheap jibes from chubster fans and the big club followers.
      It just pishes me orf when our own fans do it to a degree teetering on hatred, not that you are in that catagory.

      You seem to be a poster who changes your views depending on the outcome of each game almost.

      I remember Griff saying a while back that if we go down, you just know that the D/S’s will be in their element bleating on about “I told you so”
      So well done, you told me so and well done for having a realistic opinion, great stuff pal.[/quote]

      Not really saying I told you so. I was looking back ( Hence thread title )because I was looking at the users list Karma standings and wondered who this ‘Revolution Saint’ person was with a karma of 5 and I got it into my head that they were a RL fan due to the name. I also noticed that there were a couple of the RL posters with positive karmas and so I clicked on RS’s posts and my ” And Then There Were 4 ” thread was one they had posted on ! ( Are you following me ! ha ha ha ) Anyhow, to cut a short story long I thought I would highlight a little bit of blind faith that was going on because we were playing pretty badly at the time ( Winless in last 6 and just been dicked 4-1 by Chelsea )and I was fearing the worst. As it happens we won 3 of the next 4 and it looked like I would emerge with egg on my face but a poor April reignited my initial fears. Anyhow, at the end of the day I was bored ha ha ha Oh and I told ya so ! :cheer:[/quote]

      Yes Phil, but you were trying to make yourself look a little bit smug and clever when, ironically, all you have done is make yourself look a little bit daft.

      #116575
      You seem to be a poster who changes your views depending on the outcome of each game almost.

      That is the only way to judge a performance though JR. We can’t say “Oh well, So what if we got battered by Swansea, We beat West Brom in the last game!”

      I judge on a game by game, I have had a few predictions come right and some wrong. When i have been wrong i have always said so. When i have been right i don’t use the ‘I told you so battering ram’ Because let’s face it. After bit, Predicting Martinez’ tactics and interviews became very easy. Im not in any l/s or d/s category. I just give my view. Credit to the lads who tried to put a good spin on every shocker though. I couldn’t and wouldn’t do that.

      #116593
      filmossfilmoss
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        I guess that some of us could see how things were unfurling before our very eyes whilst others refused to accept it ! It was mid January when I realised that we would more than likely go down and despite a very brief period of hope ( 1 week ) my fears were eventually confirmed ! Darkside ? No. realist ? Yes ! ;)

        http://www.cockneylatic.co.uk/forum/5-cockney-latic-main-forum/101549-and-then-there-were-four

        Bravo Mystic Meg, there is a difference to believing we will go down and wanting to believe we will stay up. personally I have loved the bumpy ride that was Martinez reign, and accepted the relegation when it came.

        The thing the darkside will never understand is supporting your team and enjoying it while it lasts. being a defeatest and accepting fates before they have come to pass. Must have been a sad old time for you.

        Shoudl have had your money on us for the cup at the start of the season 500-1 lol[/quote]

        If the truth be known, the FA Cup win papered over the cracks of a pretty disappointing final Premiership campaign that ultimately ended with us bailing out ! I wanted us to survive but saw hardly anything to give me hope and that is what I wrote, say what you see ! Bar the FA Cup there was not too much to enjoy about last season especially the the home form which was dire to say the least ! If you chose to suppress the very fact that we played like a relegation destined side then fair enough but deep down I knew that our 8 year stint was coming to an end but it was far far from a sad old time for me because I had more or less accepted the fact and was prepared ![/quote]

        So had all the Lightsiders, but they didn’t keep faffing on about it like spoilt kids. B) :P[/quote]

        Do you really want me to dredge up some of your super confident of avoiding the drop nuggets JR !! :cheer:[/quote]

        Go ahead Phil by all means go for it. Do you really think I am ashamed of backing my team through thick and thin, its what a true supporter does isn’t it? B)[/quote]

        So you didnt walk away from the DW on numerous occasions last season thinking ” Well that was shit ” did you not ? I did but it didn’t mean that I had not just got behind my team for 90mins and tried to gee them on ! Oh I did my bit, alas the team didn’t do theirs and down they went ! So I did back them through thick and thin, the difference being that I am not a one dimensional person and I have opinions that were deemed to be negative yet with hindsight realistic which is the whole point of my thread ! You keep smiling and nodding and I will form opinions ![/quote]

        I think if you ask the lads I go to games with, they will tell you that I am usually the one who walks off the DW giving credit to the side that’s took 3 points of us and pointing out were I think we’ve gone wrong. Within a couple of hours after the game I’ve kicked the cat, bit the wife’s head off, clod half mi tea in the bin and on my 4th pint, I start looking forward to the next game and the positive vibes come back.
        Do I feel the need to come on here slagging the manager, chairman, players off….err no.
        Do I bite when the D/S come on winging like fek…….unfortunately yes.
        You see I’ve been used to defending my club over the years from cheap jibes from chubster fans and the big club followers.
        It just pishes me orf when our own fans do it to a degree teetering on hatred, not that you are in that catagory.

        You seem to be a poster who changes your views depending on the outcome of each game almost.

        I remember Griff saying a while back that if we go down, you just know that the D/S’s will be in their element bleating on about “I told you so”
        So well done, you told me so and well done for having a realistic opinion, great stuff pal.[/quote]

        Not really saying I told you so. I was looking back ( Hence thread title )because I was looking at the users list Karma standings and wondered who this ‘Revolution Saint’ person was with a karma of 5 and I got it into my head that they were a RL fan due to the name. I also noticed that there were a couple of the RL posters with positive karmas and so I clicked on RS’s posts and my ” And Then There Were 4 ” thread was one they had posted on ! ( Are you following me ! ha ha ha ) Anyhow, to cut a short story long I thought I would highlight a little bit of blind faith that was going on because we were playing pretty badly at the time ( Winless in last 6 and just been dicked 4-1 by Chelsea )and I was fearing the worst. As it happens we won 3 of the next 4 and it looked like I would emerge with egg on my face but a poor April reignited my initial fears. Anyhow, at the end of the day I was bored ha ha ha Oh and I told ya so ! :cheer:[/quote]

        Yes Phil, but you were trying to make yourself look a little bit smug and clever when, ironically, all you have done is make yourself look a little bit daft.[/quote]

        Smug? No. Clever? No. Correct? Yes. I was berated for daring to say that we may be heading for the trapdoor and berated for saying that with hindsight I was right to have formed that opinion ! Listen, The Darkside were right all along and The Lightside tried to worm their way out of it with a few chestnuts that simply did not wash with us ! ha ha ha ;) This season it would appear that I am on The Lightside for now but if I feel a need to opine for whatever reason then I will, after all that is what a forum is for ! ” They don’t like it up em Mr Mainwaring ” ! ha ha ha

        #116597

        I guess that some of us could see how things were unfurling before our very eyes whilst others refused to accept it ! It was mid January when I realised that we would more than likely go down and despite a very brief period of hope ( 1 week ) my fears were eventually confirmed ! Darkside ? No. realist ? Yes ! ;)

        http://www.cockneylatic.co.uk/forum/5-cockney-latic-main-forum/101549-and-then-there-were-four

        Bravo Mystic Meg, there is a difference to believing we will go down and wanting to believe we will stay up. personally I have loved the bumpy ride that was Martinez reign, and accepted the relegation when it came.

        The thing the darkside will never understand is supporting your team and enjoying it while it lasts. being a defeatest and accepting fates before they have come to pass. Must have been a sad old time for you.

        Shoudl have had your money on us for the cup at the start of the season 500-1 lol[/quote]

        If the truth be known, the FA Cup win papered over the cracks of a pretty disappointing final Premiership campaign that ultimately ended with us bailing out ! I wanted us to survive but saw hardly anything to give me hope and that is what I wrote, say what you see ! Bar the FA Cup there was not too much to enjoy about last season especially the the home form which was dire to say the least ! If you chose to suppress the very fact that we played like a relegation destined side then fair enough but deep down I knew that our 8 year stint was coming to an end but it was far far from a sad old time for me because I had more or less accepted the fact and was prepared ![/quote]

        The bottom line is the Darkside never understood the lightside. The lightside was split into two camps, a small minority would believe martinez was god, time will tell for that, the rest chose to be positive and support the club and just get on with it rather than the negative rhetoric displayed by many on these boards. Choosing our life to be positive and hopeful as opposed to negative and (insert own word here) is the way we chose to watch our football.

        I will stand by the decision to sit in the Lightside camp.

        And the FA Cup will never be forgotten and Martinez gave it to use, with two magnificant tactical performances.

        #116598

        For 4 seasons people have said we are a definite for relegation it happens on the fourth time of asking and they start jumping around saying I told you so.

        Comedy gold.

        #116599
        Smug? No. Clever? No. Correct? Yes. I was berated for daring to say that we may be heading for the trapdoor and berated for saying that with hindsight I was right to have formed that opinion !

        No you weren’t, you were berated for being so negative about it. Cleverer (and more lightside) people than you also had an inkling that we were going down, just chose to hold out hope, as JR said earlier.

        #116608
        bigroybigroy
        Player

          All we need now is LMB penning a poem to celebrate our demise! We were heavily odds on to go down for the majority of the year. I said it before and ill say it again. Ill take the cup win over relegation. Its hardly exciting finishing 16th-20th in a league most years we dont have a cat in hells chance of competing in. Next season promises to be a cracker. A Wembley showcase followed by some belting derbies and a European run. Its took me a week to absorb but the appointment of Coyle looks decent. As he says his managerial record aint bad and in his 4 seasons against Martinez he has finished above him 3 times. Bring it on.

          #116615
          thty5yearswafctrevor hoy
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            Lightside 3 darkside 1 over bobbys tenure all this cufuffle from fillis is but a consolation goal in the 93rd minute

            FA CUP WINNERS 2013 B)

            #116619
            filmossfilmoss
            Player

              I also would not swap the cup for survival and didn’t bat an eyelid when we went down or griped on here when it became final ! What I do know is that there are some on here who would have give it extra large if we had somehow have stayed up and most certainly would have said ” I told you so ” ! The thing is this forum is no different than any other football club forum and so the Lightside/Darkside comparison if anything just fuels more squabbles and singles out certain people which at the end of the day is not a healthy thing is it ! The drop may see our home crowds drop but I am pretty confident that our away support will grow which won’t be a bad thing going off Prem away support which to be fair was not the best was it ! Deep down there are many that have exhaled a massive sigh of relief at finally succumbing to relegation and I am one of them hence my lack of eyelid batting ! So, Weregoingtobarnsley ! What were the chances of that happening eh ( well 1 in 23 actually )!

              #116621
              thty5yearswafctrevor hoy
              Player

                Oh Phyllis stop squirming old chap I have not once come on gloating I told you so when we have avoided the drop not many of the other light brigade have either I must admit having a slight chuckle three times at the end of the season when all the darksiders stopped posting and went into hiding but that was as far as it went :lol: :lol:

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