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  • #14514
    palace001adrian
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      The manager is not good enough, we need to replace him before it is to late. The system he plays is crap, how Jason Scotland keeps starting i do not know, today showed the difference in the quality of the managers, Birmingham we struggling a bit in the first half the second half starts after a team talk and they are a different team and score 3 goals, while we play absolutley shit. Then what the hell the substitutes where i do not know. Sorry for all the Martinez fans but he simply is not good enough for the premiership. Nothing against him but we have lost against Hull, Wolves Birmingham and Portsmouth, Chris Hutchins got sacked for less than that.

      Oh, and Dave Whealan has had 70 milion this season and what have we spent???

      #14515
      Murph_DogMurph
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        Hang on a sec lad we could and should have won that game by 5 or 6. Don’t really think the blame lies with Roberto.

        #14516
        alex_wiganAlex Whalley
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          I am a huge Martinez fan and will be back him to the absolute end, I have always been a fan ever since he played and I think he’s Wigan Athletic through and through BUT what I will say is I don’t want him to be a villain, at the moment we’re struggling to kill teams off, it should have been 3-0 at half time, that is the players fault as we created the chances but whatever was said at half time obviously didn’t work as Birmingham were far far better and twice as hungry!

          In Bobby’s defence, he’s been given NO money to spend and has bought players he was allowed to buy, he’s also got the hard job of tempting players to Wigan which can’t be easy.

          I left after the 3rd goal today along with lots of others as I can’t stand watching my side get hammered by a very ordinary side, it works me up and puts me in an awful mood, what I don’t need is p****s shouting at me and having a go when i’m on my way out, I pay my money and i’ll leave when I like, those players should not be paid this week and are not fit to wear the shirt. Why should I turn up at the game if the players don’t? I will boo if they’re s**t, like today and I will make my feelings heard. I won’t stand for my fellow supporters giving me s**t on the way out and I made a point of that today, got held back by a steward after some guy told me to f**k off on my way out, there was quite a bit of trouble in ES2/3 as people left the stadium and personally I don’t blame fans for leaving and I myself vote with my feet.

          #14518
          QueenyTony Sumner
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            Could and should have won ain’t good enough.
            I could have won the lotto but havnt. I should pick the right number tonight but I won’t. tis all too late when the whisle blows

            #14519
            momoMoMo
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              palace001 you talk absolute s**t, yeah we have lost against the teams you have mentioned, but what about the wins against aston villa, burnley, sunderland and yes CHELSEA, bet u weren’t calling for his head then was you, supporters like you p**s me off, bet you love the style of football we played last year BIG HOOF up the field, well i tell you what i would rather pay my money and watch us play football, yes sometimes it dont work out, but when it does we luck fantastic, i am 100% behind martinez, we all need to get behind him and support him.

              #14521
              Vat69Vat69
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                Why do we have to have a ‘set style of play’? What exactly constitutes ‘Good football’. No, go on. ***
                To me, any football is good, as long as you are winning. You play against different sides with different styles. You need to be able to mix it. Currently, we are so one dimensional, it’s frightening. You should always play to your players strengths, and to be honest, our current players strengths are very limited. Our best threat is from N’Zogbia. But is it not too obvious? Double mark him, and the threat has gone. I don’t like picking on individual players, but currently Hendry Thomas is stealing a place in the side. A very average player. The last two games have seen the midfield walked all over.

                We are bad. No, hear me out, digest what I say, and then try and tell me I’m wrong.

                No leadership on the field………….
                (No gobby, hard tackling leader. Quietest team I’ve ever seen)

                Not much on the bench………..
                (Took Boyce off for an attacking player, and stuck Scharner back there. We gained what, exactly?)

                Defence hammered by anybody with pace…………..
                (Boyce is a Championship level player, always has been, and Bramble is back to his flat-footed worst)

                A crock as first choice keeper, a pensioner as second choice, a ‘lucky-lucky’ man as third choice………….
                (Birmingham had Joe Hart in goal today. Why can’t we sign a good young keeper?)

                A centre-forward who is nowhere near good enough…………
                (And never will be. Not even a nearly man.)

                A captain who is past it……………
                (And has been for 2 seasons)

                Oh how obvious is it all. Go on, stand by Roberto. Yes, legend he is, lovely bloke, not denying that. I WANT us to do well with him in charge. I really do.
                But I just think that sentiment is ruling over sense. Looks well when the most experienced member of the coaching staff is Dave Watson, the youth team coach.
                We are getting beaten by average sides, and any decent side is hammering us without breaking sweat. I predict 2-0 at Stoke, and 4-0 at Liverpool.

                Get beat next home V Bolton and it shows how bad we really are. We’ll see what support Roberto get’s from his chairman in January, as well.

                Rant over.

                But of course, you’ll all say “Don’t panic, Roberto will get it right”. Will he? We’ll see. Hope you are right, and I cannot name anybody who could replace him, so I really hope he does.

                *** Brian Clough, legend that he is, saw his Forest side relegated in 1993 whilst trying to play ‘the right way’.

                #14523
                Murph_DogMurph
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                  :shock:

                  We played some great stuff today, who cares if we lost, i enjoyed the game. Unlike last week which was one of the worst games i have ever seen.

                  #14525

                  Martinez is OK. Backroom staff are not good enough to support him.

                  Bruce wasn’t that brilliant – Eric Black made him look good.
                  Jewell had Hutchings.

                  Not great managers themselves – but excellent number 2s (oo er matron).

                  Graeme Jones is the weak link, I’m afraid – not Roberto.

                  #14527
                  psklpaul tymon
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                    out simple,

                    #14532
                    acefaceaaron yates
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                      reat where to start,brum in the 1st half are the worst team i have seen at the dw this season, i will stand by bob no matter what but what i will not stand for is players who really dont give a cak or are not good enough.I watched scotland today very closely and on way home got into an argument with no doubt a jcl,he said scotland made the zoggie goal my reply was no 1 only you mate must have known he was going to shoot because i never saw it coming all in all scotland contributed nothing ,mario dosent deserve to be captain or playing not good enough now and his body language to the rest of the team is to say the least disgusting, scharner i thought was superb.Now dw slated owen in the press saying he wasnt good enough for the prem but we can shell out 4 mill plus on king got no return and 3mill on scotland and will not get any return,we could have signed owen on a free and some off the 8 mill spent on cak would have paid his wages and even if he would have only played 5 games upto this point he would have scored more than scotland.Keep your mouth shut dw and get your hand in your pocket and bring some qaulity in and get shut of the dead wood players and backroom staff,that includes jones and barrow :x

                      #14542
                      Vat69Vat69
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                        reat where to start,brum in the 1st half are the worst team i have seen at the dw this season, i will stand by bob no matter what but what i will not stand for is players who really dont give a cak or are not good enough.I watched scotland today very closely and on way home got into an argument with no doubt a jcl,he said scotland made the zoggie goal my reply was no 1 only you mate must have known he was going to shoot because i never saw it coming all in all scotland contributed nothing ,mario dosent deserve to be captain or playing not good enough now and his body language to the rest of the team is to say the least disgusting, scharner i thought was superb.Now dw slated owen in the press saying he wasnt good enough for the prem but we can shell out 4 mill plus on king got no return and 3mill on scotland and will not get any return,we could have signed owen on a free and some off the 8 mill spent on cak would have paid his wages and even if he would have only played 5 games upto this point he would have scored more than scotland.Keep your mouth shut dw and get your hand in your pocket and bring some qaulity in and get shut of the dead wood players and backroom staff,that includes jones and barrow :x

                        Good points, which I agree with. I think the bloke meant that Scotland held the ball up for N’Zogbia, but it was far from an assist. You mention Owen. What I have noticed, is that we never seem to have anybody there for the finish, like today when Rodallega hit a ball across the face of goal. It’s been a while since we had that type of player up front, and we are crying out for one.
                        Melchiogt should not even be playing, but surprise surprise, we have nothing in reserve to even threaten his place in the team. That’s the problem throughout the squad. In a word, it’s rubbish.

                        If Whelan doesn’t get the chequebook out in January, I think it’s taking the p**s out of all us fans. Especially considering we are already a player down, with Marlon King’s, ahem, ‘departure’. We have people at this club pinching money and this squad needs ‘real surgery’, to quote one Paul Jewell. It’s the worst we’ve had in the Premiership.

                        #14544
                        Vat69Vat69
                        Player
                          Martinez is OK. Backroom staff are not good enough to support him.

                          Bruce wasn’t that brilliant – Eric Black made him look good.
                          Jewell had Hutchings.

                          Not great managers themselves – but excellent number 2s (oo er matron).

                          Graeme Jones is the weak link, I’m afraid – not Roberto.

                          Don’t you think that youth coach, Dave Watson, should be promoted to first team involvement? Most experienced member of kids, messing about with the kids. I think he should be working on tightening that defence up.

                          #14557

                          We just look a soft touch if I was opposition manager I would just say get amongst us and we will panic at some point.

                          This proves that we definatley need a striker, right back and someone to relplace Scharner when he goes.

                          #14558
                          The DukeThe Duke
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                            The underlining problem with Martinez is his selection.

                            When will he realise that Scotland is a big of shite? He was awful again today, he will NEVER score in the Prem. He should be on the bench at a push.

                            RODALLEGA IS A STRIKER!!!!!!!!!!! Not a winger, this lad is a quality striker and we play him on the wing. We lose so much goal thread when he’s on teh wing.

                            N’Zogbia is a LEFT WINGER!!!! He is so good at dribbling, so play him on the left so he can take people on. On the right he can only come inside when dribbling, into an area of the pitch which is very crowded. He can’t dribble there.

                            In the second half Brum just looked more determined than us, more up for it. First to every ball etc. I question Martinez’s motivation skills as he doesn’t look like the type that would motivate a whole team.

                            I do believe we should stick with him though, as sacking him will do us no good.

                            Just before I go, why did we start hoofing it again today? We just leathered it up to that useless elephant up front, which isn’t the way we’ve been used to this season. Plus credit where it’s due to Gomez today, came on and showed some neat touches. And a belting free-kick.

                            #14567
                            acefaceaaron yates
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                              Martinez is OK. Backroom staff are not good enough to support him.

                              Bruce wasn’t that brilliant – Eric Black made him look good.
                              Jewell had Hutchings.

                              Not great managers themselves – but excellent number 2s (oo er matron).

                              Graeme Jones is the weak link, I’m afraid – not Roberto.

                              Don’t you think that youth coach, Dave Watson, should be promoted to first team involvement? Most experienced member of kids, messing about with the kids. I think he should be working on tightening that defence up.[/quote]
                              vat mate , what about jewell as bobs number 2,

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