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… and of course tomorrow is Star Wars Day.
May the fourth be with you.
I’ve already got me coat on…….
You do know there’s a law against doing the May the fourth gag before the actual day, don’t you?
i remember that wolves game and alot went on the pitch after. i seem to remember the players in the stand and then there been some bother with some wolves idiots. did graham barrow not punch one of them in the face?.i thought we missed out on goal diff to derby county who had about 3 games still to play after that game.maybe i am am wrong but it was a long time ago and ones memory does get a bit hazy.
i stand corrected dave your right
[link2:mp4uw08i]Table link,http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/division-three-old/1985-1986/table%5B/link2:mp4uw08i%5D
i stand corrected dave your right[link2:2sr5e8rk]Table link,http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/division-three-old/1985-1986/table%5B/link2:2sr5e8rk%5D
Dave would probably have been right anyway, but he was quoting the article when it said we missed out by one point. If you have read it, it is quite good…. 8 games, 7 wins and a draw.
We’ve still not lost either.
FA Cup Winners 2013, sounds good that
Vat69 – It was my first Latics game as well – an absolute cracker. After this Wigan were my team (shamed to say that I supported Man U up til this game and I still have a soft spot for them …. hope we beat Chelsea on Sunday !!!)
Vat69 – It was my first Latics game as well – an absolute cracker. After this Wigan were my team (shamed to say that I supported Man U up til this game and I still have a soft spot for them …. hope we beat Chelsea on Sunday !!!)Out they come :lol:
Vat69 – It was my first Latics game as well – an absolute cracker. After this Wigan were my team (shamed to say that I supported Man U up til this game and I still have a soft spot for them …. hope we beat Chelsea on Sunday !!!)
Out they come :lol: [/quote]
Out who come? If you are capable of adding up you will see that the two people concerned have watched Wigan Athletic for 25 years during which time they have been in the bottom division and bottom of the entire league. Hardly the actions of bandwagon jumpers.
Growing up in Wigan in the 70s and 80s most people had a second team, that could either be United first and Wigan second or Wigan first or United second, it was hardly likely 25 years ago that they would ever play each other.It’s a pretty common concept if you understand football, which from the sounds of it you don’t.There are lads I know now who watch Utd, Everton etc but when they have no game they come down to the DW to watch Latics, they are football fans. Proper football fans who watch games in the flesh not on telly. Not the Sky fest armchair fans who sit in the pub with their United & Liverpool shirts on, the glory hunters who follow whoever is winning. If you have kids you will know that they change their minds a lot. Kids are easily influenced by other kids. The good news for all of us is that around 30-40% of the DW Stadium now is probably made up of kids who have only ever known success and Premier League football despite the claims that they are bandwagon jumpers
I had you sussed out as a rugby clown a while ago. Every time you come on here to post snidey comments about Latics and our fans, I will give you a history lesson like this. I will put you on a lead like a little pet Chihuahua and lead you up the garden path. Grow up or get back to your own board. I await your clueless three word response :roll:
Out who come? If you are capable of adding up you will see that the two people concerned have watched Wigan Athletic for 25 years during which time they have been in the bottom division and bottom of the entire league. Hardly the actions of bandwagon jumpers.And still retained a soft spot for United. What would you call someone who goes from one club to another and still keeps following their first club? Not all that impressive keeping tabs on Latics in the bottom divisions when you’ve always got the biggest club in the country to fall back on.
I’ve never understood how you can have more than one club. What happens when they play each other? How can you give your heart and soul to two clubs?I had you sussed out as a rugby clown a while ago. Every time you come on here to post snidey comments about Latics and our fans, I will give you a history lesson like this. I will put you on a lead like a little pet Chihuahua and lead you up the garden path. Grow up or get back to your own board. I await your clueless three word response :roll:That’s just weird.
I was born & raised a United fan (I had a season ticket, so did my dad & so did his dad). In 1987 I went to watch a few Latics games & caught the bug
When my dad said he’d no longer pay the increased ST prices at Old Trafford I started to watch Latics full time instead.
I’ve followed Latics home & away for 20 years now in all 4 division & if you cut me open I’d bleed blue & white.
BUT
if Latics can’t win somet, my Man United upbringing makes me want them to win it instead. In games between the 2 sides I want Latics to winI don’t have more than one club, nor do I give my heart & soul to another club as you put it but some things aren’t that easy to shake off completely. To me its no different than someone saying they hate United & want em to win nowt – Latics have no rivalry with United so where does that come from?
Seeing as I am involved in this discussion (sort of), I would like to add my two-penneth, if I may?
Firstly, thanks ScholesControl for the support. Yes, you are right with what you say. I have watched Latics playing in EVERY division of the Football League. I am actually quite proud of that.
My first game, the match against Wolves, came about because I had pestered my dad to take me to a ‘proper’ football match, after we had watched a season or two at Skem United. I say ‘watched’. It was more a case of mess about with my mate, who’s mother ran the refreshment kiosk. We helped (hindered) serve pies, etc. I can’t recall a lot about the football, but I do remember former Notts Forest European Cup winner, Kenny Burns, playing for someone like Worksop Town.
Anyway, my dad took me to that game against Wolves, and whilst I can’t remember any action from the game, I can vaguely remember walking out into the Phoenix stand. To this nine year old, it could have been the Nou Camp. I thought it was great. A ‘proper’ football ground, with a real crowd. We also couldn’t get a programme (same old story) and in fact it took me years to get hold of a copy of it. I still have my ticket stub from the game, as well.
The following year, we missed the first few games, I think my dad was working, and then we started going every game, and then we got a season ticket. The change in personnel, from the team we saw in that first game, to the one the following season, was staggering. Bobby Campbell was signed, and became my favourite. And so on, with hard times, and good times, up to present day. Taking the rough with the smooth, as they say. Over the years, I’ve had plenty of stick off people, usually armchair-fan Scousers. “Wigan? They’re cr@p!” and that kind of thing. But it never changed me. My mates are Liverpool and Everton fans. (who go to games) They’ve never tried to convert me. And also coming from Skem, the rugby league doctorisation never occurred. Without wanting to be patronizing, it must be tougher to get away from, growing up in Wigan, with the sport rammed down your neck from a young age. I had Liverpool and Everton rammed down my neck, but at least it was the right shaped ball!I’ve had some great times as a fan, and some bad times. I actually think the good times eclipse the bad times. We have grown as a club, and it is a far cry from the one I walked into back in 1986.
Regarding the Premiership, I think I would prefer United to win it, rather than Chelsea. Why? Two reasons. One, they are the Northern club. And Two, I’d like Antonio Valencia to win the Premiership. He’s had a cracking first season for them.
I was born & raised a United fan (I had a season ticket, so did my dad & so did his dad). In 1987 I went to watch a few Latics games & caught the bug
When my dad said he’d no longer pay the increased ST prices at Old Trafford I started to watch Latics full time instead.
I’ve followed Latics home & away for 20 years now in all 4 division & if you cut me open I’d bleed blue & white.
BUT
if Latics can’t win somet, my Man United upbringing makes me want them to win it instead. In games between the 2 sides I want Latics to winI don’t have more than one club, nor do I give my heart & soul to another club as you put it but some things aren’t that easy to shake off completely. To me its no different than someone saying they hate United & want em to win nowt – Latics have no rivalry with United so where does that come from?
I’ve told my tale before but I was born in Liverpool (well, Everton actually, but you can’t have everything), raised a Red, complete with Kop season ticket.
However in 1976 we moved out to Garswood, and I watched fewer and fewer games at Anfield until whole seasons went by without a game.
When my son started taking an interest in football I couldn’t take him on the Kop, so we went to watch our local team, Latics. We went more and more often, until they became 100% my team. A sort of reverse “glory-hunting” I suppose – going from supporting European Champions to a team at the bottom of the Fourth Division.
Latics’ universe and Liverpool’s were never supposed to cross of course, but as they did it was very very very clear to me that I felt nothing at all for Liverpol. The Liverpool I supported in the 60s and 70s were nothing like what now exists. And when in our first season in the Premiership I was interviewed by Sky Sports TV outside the Anfield Road End in blue and white colours, then the path was set.
So yes you can change allegiance. But to me the team I used to support has vanished off the Earth. I now support MY team, and will continue to do so whatever happens.
The only slight difference I have with TL is that I really don’t care at all whether Liverpool win anything or not, and frankly whether United or Chelsea win is nothing to me either. My season is complete that we have stayed up.
I’ve never understood how you can have more than one club. What happens when they play each other? How can you give your heart and soul to two clubs?Read the two examples and learn. I’ll give you another more simple example if you’re struggling. I used to go watching St Pats as quite a few mates played for them. Lots of people there support St Pats and Wiggin Rugby. One is a big name Top Four club, one is non league club lower down the pyramid.
I take it you’ll be nipping down to Clarington Park the next time they play to tell them they can’t do that in case they ever end up playing each other? :roll:
Quoting Pembertonian:
“How can you give your heart and soul to two clubs”.
I haven’t given my heart and soul to ONE club, mate.
Yes, I’m Latics through and through, and I’m glad I am. But for Pete’s sake, it’s a GAME. The only people I will ever GIVE my “heart and soul to” are my family. Each to their own, and all that, but this is one reason why I would never get a Latics Tattoo. knowing my luck if I did, Lindsay would be named the chairman the following day, and he’d merge us with the rugby, and name us Wigan Warriors Association Football Club. :shock:
A famous ex manager once said football is “more important than life or death”. Er, no it isn’t. It’s a game. It makes some people act pathetically….grown men, using it as an excuse to fight and cause trouble. It’s nothing to do with football, they are just scumbags.
I find a lot of people who have to back up their ‘passion’ for their club, by going over the top to display it, and tend to find that most of these types have only recently jumped on the bandwagon, and are thus ‘giving it rice’ to try and prove something, to themselves, more than anybody else.
However for people like myself, with 25 years support or more, we’ve already done enough by still being here, despite some really hard times, dodgy owners, the club being run to the wall, and a feeling at times of being ‘cheated’ as fans. But we are STILL here, and are now reaping the rewards of seeing our club take on the biggest clubs and best players. It’s actually taken me these 5 seasons to come around to our position. Yes, it’s the ‘greed league’, much overhyped, and overrated. But we’re here. And here on our own merit. Long may it continue.
I will be renewing my season ticket in the neext 3 weeks. :D
A famous ex manager once said football is “more important than life or death”.
And he was joking – although it’s now quoted everywhere as though he meant it. He was joking to the Press.
Yes, it’s the ‘greed league’, much overhyped, and overrated. But we’re here. And here on our own merit. Long may it continue.
One banner in the Hull end I liked on Saturday.
“City for Life – not just for the Premiership”
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