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    I agree; say what you see !
    Over the many years I’ve been a very positive & optimistic supporter (not a happy clapper), but now I’m getting tired of this possession strategy which relies upon putting one of your single figure clear cut chances in the net and not really having a plan B if we are finding it difficult.
    Sick of hearing Shaun say “they made it difficult for us”. Of course they bloody did; do you expect them to roll over while we tickle their stomach ! His job as Manager is to have that plan B, to try and break through these stubborn sides; and that’s what we haven’t had in the past few seasons.

    Stop turning football into an exact science !

    #203829
    cup winnerscup winners
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      We’ve a squad with no balance no cutting edge up front and a mish mash of inexperienced players coupled with a manager who’s possession based slow lethargic style of play doesn’t suit and you’ve the perfect reciepe for a disaster.

      It’s basically a case of:-
      “You can’t change your whole squad but you can change the manager”

      The players may not be ready but we’ve got no choice other than go with them and try our best to get a tune out of them regardless of age & experience.

      I’m sorry but I’ve lost all faith in Maloney, I’ve tried to give him a chance and blamed Danson for not backing him but regardless we have to change for me.
      He showed at the end of last season he can take the reigns and shackles off the players but the thing is he’s not prepared to

      #203830
      BullittBullitt
      Player

        Playing to players strengths is the key, Maloneys boring over the top tactics seem to have the players confused, shit scared or both with over complicating the game plan.

        You only have to look up the road at Blackpool, Steve Bruce has been there a few weeks and turned it around with the same squad Critchley had winning four from four, any experienced manager would get a tune out of our lot.

        Instead of pissing about with I pads and stats etc just give the players simple instructions that they understand and the results will follow.

        Fuck the EFL

        #203832
        cup winnerscup winners
        Player

          I think the key is to concentrate on yourself and not the opposition. The one thing I noticed more than anything our players travel with the ball at feet.
          If were going from the back to the middle of the park it has to be done via 6 sideway passes followed by 2 passes that go to a midfielder back to defence who in turn start the whole process again.
          Sometimes it’s better to less complicated by a defender bringing it forward, you know, old fashioned make your yards by actually moving forward into space looking all the time “then” look for movement and runners.

          Were obsessed with passing for the sake of it when all’s it needs is that player to move forward with the ball. Maloney clearly thinks to go forward you must pass not run with it.

          Sometimes old fashioned running draws players and commits players. Watch the Pompey away highlights from last year, that exactly how we played.

          Honestly it’s my pet hate seeing Kerr with acre’s of space in front of him wait for say M.Smith to drop into this huge whole, receive it and give it Kerr back when all’s it requires is Kerr run into the hole and M.Smith should be in the advanced role not a fookin make shift centre half.
          Look I’m not saying everytime run with it just mix it up though, get players taking players on. That’s why McManaman does so well, he goes for it with 1 on 1’s, win lose or draw he has a go.

          There’s a famous tiktok video doing the rounds were a bunch of say 9-10 year olds pass pass pass the perfect Pep goal and that fine but God it’s boring.

          I remember the young Valencia at Wigan and how exciting he was running directly at defenders, a dying art

          • This reply was modified 2 months, 1 week ago by cup winnerscup winners.
          #203834

          Always liked that aspect of the game, when defenders are capable of running & making up ground with the ball; and I look at our defenders on Saturday, and yes they have the requisite skills if only Shaun would let them be more adventurous.

          #203835
          vincehillvinceHill
          Player

            There are far more better qualified people on this board to discuss style of play and tactics than me and i follow the simplistics of the game followed by many a great manager back when i started watching football almost 50 years ago.
            For me after watching past two games is that Latics current style is keep the ball at all costs , lose possession then win a throw in and start again and follow same pattern but never attack unless something is on which it rarely is because they hardly ever get near the goal.
            All any team has to do to nullify this tactic in my view is to high press and get in faces and possession will be lost and hit then high intensity balls into the area and get the breaks.
            We have got away with it these past three games but i bet we dont tomorrow night unless some changes are made and a go for it attitude is adopted like the Bristol Rovers game.
            There is pace in the team so why not use it and get the ball wide and whip quick fire crosses in and see what happens , its old school and not cool but FFS its far easier on the eye than this current rubbish and so simple to express to players.
            The whole game from top to bottom sickens me at the moment anyway , the corporate running out and lining up , the faux badge kissing,thwe ridiculous group huddles, do it in the dressing room FFS , the over coaching and analysis to avoid defeat and the sly goading of home/away by players towards fans with hands held to ears bull that we see across the game whenever a goal is scored.
            Add to that the rolling around , patting the turf whenever they are tapped to get somebody sent off which sadly has spread to the lower divisions now needs dealing with by the authorities.
            Had enough of it all , better places and things to do with my time.

            • This reply was modified 2 months, 1 week ago by vincehillvinceHill.
            #203837

            Great post Vince.
            Say what you see and your spot on with all your observations.

            #203844
            Vat69Vat69
            Player

              There are far more better qualified people on this board to discuss style of play and tactics than me and i follow the simplistics of the game followed by many a great manager back when i started watching football almost 50 years ago.
              For me after watching past two games is that Latics current style is keep the ball at all costs , lose possession then win a throw in and start again and follow same pattern but never attack unless something is on which it rarely is because they hardly ever get near the goal.
              All any team has to do to nullify this tactic in my view is to high press and get in faces and possession will be lost and hit then high intensity balls into the area and get the breaks.
              We have got away with it these past three games but i bet we dont tomorrow night unless some changes are made and a go for it attitude is adopted like the Bristol Rovers game.
              There is pace in the team so why not use it and get the ball wide and whip quick fire crosses in and see what happens , its old school and not cool but FFS its far easier on the eye than this current rubbish and so simple to express to players.
              The whole game from top to bottom sickens me at the moment anyway , the corporate running out and lining up , the faux badge kissing,thwe ridiculous group huddles, do it in the dressing room FFS , the over coaching and analysis to avoid defeat and the sly goading of home/away by players towards fans with hands held to ears bull that we see across the game whenever a goal is scored.
              Add to that the rolling around , patting the turf whenever they are tapped to get somebody sent off which sadly has spread to the lower divisions now needs dealing with by the authorities.
              Had enough of it all , better places and things to do with my time.

              Very good points, and I agree.

              The problem is though if we do manage to start whipping balls into the box is we haven’t got the player who will get on the end of them. The last one we had was Will Keane. And if we are going to try that, we definitely need to get more people into the box.

              Modern football…is shite. Everyone is so stuck on playing the ‘Pep Way’. It’s not for me. I like to see wing play, balls whipped in…

              …and two up front.

              Piss off with the 3 centre backs as well. Be a bit more positive.

              Bloody entertain us. Let the shackles off the players. Stop over analysing and working on the opposition. Worry about ourselves doing it right.

              #203851
              vincehillvinceHill
              Player

                Nathan Byrne was a great player at whipping in quick and dangerous crosses mostly from the right and Will Grigg lapped them up from memory in 2017 – 2018 season.
                That player is currently at a club in USA , id have him back tomorrow.
                Not rocket science but football is in my view a simple game complicated and ruined by fools and over coaching.

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