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Easter rising? Is that something from bake off?
No, that’s yeaster rising you’re thinking of.[/quote]
That explains it then why FIFA can ban one thing but tolerate the other. It’s simply all about the dough. Theyre only in it for the bread.
This has needlessly been blown out of all proportion by FIFA.
Their stance is, “World football’s governing body prohibits political, religious or commercial messages on shirts”The poppy is none of the above in my mind, it’s a symbol of remembrance.
Maybe our FA should offer FIFA some royalties on any poppies sold in the UK. That should swing it for us!
I’ll play devil’s advocate but start by saying that I wear them & do so as an act of remembrance for those who’ve sacrificed their lives for our future’s
That said, I can see FIFA’s logic. To us it is a mark of respect & remembrance, but it’s clear just from James McLean’s stance that some other communities & nations don’t’ see it that way & FIFA can’t be seen to condone that but then refuse other nation’s requests for symbols that mean similar to them but different to others.
However if I was at the FA or playing then I would wear the armband anyway & take any punishment as I knew beforehand that they didn’t allow it
FIFA has kind of made a rod for its own back though by either allowing or not noticing the FAI’s tribute to the Easter rising on their shirts earlier this year[/quote]Correct. As a Worldwide organisation they need to “please everyone” and the only way to do it is to have a blanket ban. Personally I couldn’t care less if players wear poppies or not.
Correct. As a Worldwide organisation they need to “please everyone” and the only way to do it is to have a blanket ban. Personally I couldn’t care less if players wear poppies or not.[/quote]
Despicable attitude that Eggy, you should care there’s a principle involved here, i’ll give you the benefit of the doubt though going off the posting time you were maybe pissed at the time!
Fuck the EFL
Correct. As a Worldwide organisation they need to “please everyone” and the only way to do it is to have a blanket ban. Personally I couldn’t care less if players wear poppies or not.Despicable attitude that Eggy, you should care there’s a principle involved here, i’ll give you the benefit of the doubt though going off the posting time you were maybe pissed at the time![/quote]
Nope. It honestly doesn’t bother me. I wear one and so do my family. Outside of that it is each to their own as to whether they choose to wear one and if like James McClean they have a reason not too then that is their choice.
Destroying or disrespecting them on the other hand…..
Nope. It honestly doesn’t bother me. I wear one and so do my family. Outside of that it is each to their own as to whether they choose to wear one and if like James McClean they have a reason not too then that is their choiceAnd that’s the whole issue here Egg. It’s no longer each to their own. The long-established minute’s silence is no longer deemed respectful enough. You have to publicly demonstrate your support and not cause offence to anyone that happens to decide you’ve not measured up to their expectations.
Nope. It honestly doesn’t bother me. I wear one and so do my family. Outside of that it is each to their own as to whether they choose to wear one and if like James McClean they have a reason not too then that is their choice
And that’s the whole issue here Egg. It’s no longer each to their own. The long-established minute’s silence is no longer deemed respectful enough. You have to publicly demonstrate your support and not cause offence to anyone that happens to decide you’ve not measured up to their expectations.[/quote]
Sorry guys but to me this is just FIFA payback time for the FA outing the organisation. They allowed it once so the precedence was set and don’t you think it strange that FIFA have now said that they are investigating the FAI for the Easter Rising shirts some Eight months after the event. They have dug an hole for themselves and are now scrambling to get out of it. British people have used the poppy as a remembrance symbol for decades so why should there be an issue now.
British people have used the poppy as a remembrance symbol for decades so why should there be an issue now.Not on football shirts which is a very recent thing.
Wearing a poppy should be a personal choice.
As a football player it appears you must opt out of wearing one rather than opting in.British people have used the poppy as a remembrance symbol for decades so why should there be an issue now.
Not on football shirts which is a very recent thing.
Wearing a poppy should be a personal choice.
As a football player it appears you must opt out of wearing one rather than opting in.[/quote]Point in trying to make Sammy and your correct about it being personal choice is that FIFA have made an almighty cock up on this by allowing the poppy to be on the black armband yet now after all the fallout from the corruption scandal say it is not allowed. Secondly after it has been obviously pointed out to FIFA re the FAI wearing the Easter Rising shirt they have decided to look at it now when it happened back in March. It smacks of FIFA wanting to put the FA in their place which is not right for those who want to wear the poppy for their own reasons.
British people have used the poppy as a remembrance symbol for decades so why should there be an issue now.
Not on football shirts which is a very recent thing.
Wearing a poppy should be a personal choice.
As a football player it appears you must opt out of wearing one rather than opting in.[/quote]Point in trying to make Sammy and your correct about it being personal choice is that FIFA have made an almighty cock up on this by allowing the poppy to be on the black armband yet now after all the fallout from the corruption scandal say it is not allowed. Secondly after it has been obviously pointed out to FIFA re the FAI wearing the Easter Rising shirt they have decided to look at it now when it happened back in March. It smacks of FIFA wanting to put the FA in their place which is not right for those who want to wear the poppy for their own reasons.[/quote]
At the risk of appearing to defend FIFA I really don’t think it’s anything to do with them putting the FA in their place.
There are different people in charge at FIFA now and I believe they have made the decision without any reference to what has gone before and maybe they believe the previous decision was wrong. I don’t think they knew anything about the FAI thing until now and that’s why it’s being investigated.The use of the poppy can certainly be regarded as a political symbol, even by some citizens within our own country.
The FA say we are wearing them regardless Theresa May is backing the wearing of Poppies, the players that WANT to wear a Poppy should refuse to play if FIFA stick with this ludicrous idea!
What can they do about it? Points deduction thats what! I hope Scotland stick to their guns and dont bottle it seeing they need the points more than us!
Fuck the EFL
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