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I thought Coyle would have changed this crap tactic. We have just put up with 4 years of that garbage from Bob so why why why ffs does the Bolton reject persist in playing this pathetic tactic. Please Dave intervene and bring us back a two striker formation even if its a makeshift partnership using midfielders.
I thought Coyle would have changed this crap tactic. We have just put up with 4 years of that garbage from Bob so why why why ffs does the Bolton reject persist in playing this pathetic tactic. Please Dave intervene and bring us back a two striker formation even if its a makeshift partnership using midfielders.You’re right. 4-4-2 is the way forwards. Just like all the good teams play.
We’re struggling to retain possession in midfield, so let’s take one of ’em away and stick him up front – that’ll learn um.
I think you will find all good teams play with 1 striker up front.
This constant referral to 4-4-2 being a best way to play football is outstandiny nieve to say the least.
Regardless of formations im certain the best way to play is not to hoof it. Youll never keep possession that way
Regardless of formations im certain the best way to play is not to hoof it. Youll never keep possession that wayThe best way to play is score some goals and win the games,a striker or two would be good for this tactic.
But not having any coaching badges :huh: :huh: who are we to question Mr Coyle.When you look at it we have scored quite a few goals this season. I don’t think he knows his best 11 yet. Watson has appeared in quite a few games and dosent seem good enough. We have just sold for me our best player, Mcarthy, he was sold that late it screwed us up and not replaced him. Just need to be around 10th in jan then maybe buy some quality. Definitely need another on loan striker, I think Powell could play their and is as good as Fortune and Holt. Probably better.
Coyle has to develop the tactics that suit the players that are available. Hopefully, he can add a forward to his squad.
The most convincing performance to date was against Nottingham Forest – with Holt injured and Fortune linking with Maloney in a fluid formation.
With Maloney, Fortune and Holt all out injured, I’d say Coyle would now choose the following as his first choice Championship players;
Carson
Shotton Barnett Rogne Perch
Watson McArthur Gomez McClean
McManaman Powell
I’m not sure that I’d agree with this choice, but I’d like to see a more regular Championship team, with changes for the Europa League games.
Coyle has to develop the tactics that suit the players that are available. Hopefully, he can add a forward to his squad.The most convincing performance to date was against Nottingham Forest – with Holt injured and Fortune linking with Maloney in a fluid formation.
With Maloney, Fortune and Holt all out injured, I’d say Coyle would now choose the following as his first choice Championship players;
Carson
Shotton Barnett Rogne Perch
Watson McArthur Gomez McClean
McManaman Powell
I’m not sure that I’d agree with this choice, but I’d like to see a more regular Championship team, with changes for the Europa League games.
If anyone deserves his place its Roger….
We’ve now got twelve midfield players – including wingers – playing for six places, and they’ve all played this season!
Watson McArthur Gomez McClean
McManaman PowellFyvie McCann Espinoza Beausejour
Dicko RedmondWithout Holt, Coyle hasn’t found the best use for the wingers.
I thought Coyle would have changed this crap tactic. We have just put up with 4 years of that garbage from Bob so why why why ffs does the Bolton reject persist in playing this pathetic tactic. Please Dave intervene and bring us back a two striker formation even if its a makeshift partnership using midfielders.So, you want to play two strikers, something that hardly any decent team/manager does these days, and you’d be happy to do it with 2 midfielders playing there?
Really?
I thought Coyle would have changed this crap tactic. We have just put up with 4 years of that garbage from Bob so why why why ffs does the Bolton reject persist in playing this pathetic tactic. Please Dave intervene and bring us back a two striker formation even if its a makeshift partnership using midfielders.
So, you want to play two strikers, something that hardly any decent team/manager does these days, and you’d be happy to do it with 2 midfielders playing there?
Really?[/quote]
I said it a million times during Bobby’s reign but I’ll bore everyone with my thoughts on the matter again
There is no good or bad formation to play with no matter what the era or what other teams are doing
The right formation to play is the one that suits the players at your disposal.
IMO if all Latics players were fit & available & Coyle was starting with Holt up front on his own then it would be the wrong formation coz I don’t think Holt has the attributes to play that role well. On the other hand it seems to suit Fortune better so if he started it may be the right formation to go with.
Another problem for me (again if everybody was fit) is that I don’t think that Maloney & McManaman are suited to the out & out winger roles that Coyle’s 4-5-1 seems to use, so again it becomes the wrong formation. However they wouldn’t suit 4-4-2 any better in that respectI’d be quite happy seeing Latics play 4-4-2 if the players most suited to that system were picked. if they were then I’d be confident it’d be able to beat plenty of latics rivals who were playing 4-5-1 or whatever variants of it are out there.
The problem I see at the moment is with such a large turnover of personnel, & a manager only working with his players for about a month befroe the season started, Coyle is having trouble working out how best to employ the players he has available and he hasn’t been helped by having the likes of Holt, Maloney, McManaman, Fortune, Rogne etc.. unavailable for whatever reasons.
If Coyle is the right man to move Latics forward (which i doubted when he was appointed & still have my doubts about) then it will take time for things to settle just as it took time for things to settle when Jewell took over & he needed to ship out the deadwood he inherited.
On the other hand he could just be completely clueless & Whelan needs to act before it’s too late – on that I think Whelan is pretty clued up. He could see what Jewell was doing & held fire, likewise with Bobby. On the otherhand he could see what a mess Hutchings was making & acted quickly – if he feels he needs to act then I’m sure he willI agree with what you say, Tylders.
It will take Coyle some time to get to know all his squad. However, if the rumours are true, he should have been taking note of performances long before the season ended.
He’s tried out most people now, and should have a better idea of the way he wants to go. What direction he will choose, I really can’t say. However, the new defence should give us a firm foundation.
I agree that Holt is probably unsuited to the role of single striker. What made the team performances worse when he played was the obsession of kicking long balls in his general direction.
I thought Coyle would have changed this crap tactic. We have just put up with 4 years of that garbage from Bob so why why why ffs does the Bolton reject persist in playing this pathetic tactic. Please Dave intervene and bring us back a two striker formation even if its a makeshift partnership using midfielders.
You’re right. 4-4-2 is the way forwards. Just like all the good teams play.
We’re struggling to retain possession in midfield, so let’s take one of ’em away and stick him up front – that’ll learn um.[/quote]
so then. why cant we play 3-5-2. that’ll sort out your midfield problem, give the lad who wants his 2 up front and who says we have to have 4 at the back. didn’t we play 3 centre backs, 4 midfield and 3 upfront when the previous lad was in charge.
A few stats for ya…
Top of the league Burnley last 3 league games won all 3, goals scored 7, formation 4-4-2 each time.
Second in table QPR last 3 games won 2 drew 1, goals scored 3, formation twice played 4-4-2 and once 4-3-3.
Third in table Leicester last 3 games won 2 drew 1, goals scored 6, formation each time 4-4-2.
Fourth in table Forest last 3 games won 1 drew 2, goals scored 4, formation twice played 4-4-2 and once 4-3-3.Coyle has tried different formations but will predominantly stick with just one up front for away games apart from just the once last week when we played a 4-4-2 but still lost. Now we have lost 3 out of 4 away but all the defeats have been to decent sides who aint doing too badly so far, the 1 win coming against a side that looks completely out of it’s depth in this division.
Now our unbeaten home record tells us that both of the wins and one of the draws came about with playing a 4-4-2 the other draw was a 4-3-3 and so with our stats and the stats of the current top 4 in the league I would say that it is pretty conclusive that playing more than one up front is the best way forward !
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