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4 February 2014 at 4:19 pm #126788
Big Joe was a doorman at the time wasn’t he?
Tony Pennock Latics legend. Coventry FA Cup away must be in most Latics lads top 5 away games who were around at that time. Darren Pattereson, Donny Page, Ray Wood etc
Pitch invasions and good old fashioned football mayhem in general.
4 February 2014 at 4:21 pm #126789This mon from Honduras will take some beating shortly and Maynard wont be far behind given I havent even noticed he’s been on the field so far. Paladino played in the league for sure as I remember him leaking 4 at Springfield Park.
4 February 2014 at 4:24 pm #126790Surely a pointless signing is one which was never needed in the first place rather than one who didn’t turn out to be very good.
The Beed using Taibi as an example doesn’t work – United needed a keeper & they signed one. That he turned out to be total garbage doesn’t make it pointless.At latics I’d probably go with 3 of Bobby’s loan signings – Sinclair, Van Aanholt & Hernandez.
If you’re gonna bring someone in on loan then you need to be 100% sure that you’re gonna use them whilst they’re with the club. To bring someone like that in & then hardly ever use them just smacks of going to a club, asking if they had anyone you could loan & simply taking who they offered without doing any kind of research or scouting of em.
I’m sure that’s not what happened but that’s how it looked from the outside looking inI’m not sure if you can class those three as pointless. Sinclair made quite a few appearances that season (and scored in a cup game), but turned out not to be as good as everyone expected. Van Aaanholt was a good player but it was his attitude that got him ostracised.
I think Henriquez (I wish it had been Hernandez) was brought in purely as back up as we were desperately short of strikers.
If you’re looking at pointless signings made be Martinez I’d look more towards Nouha Dicko and Filip Orsula.
4 February 2014 at 4:27 pm #126791Big Joe was a doorman at the time wasn’t he?Tony Pennock Latics legend. Coventry FA Cup away must be in most Latics lads top 5 away games who were around at that time. Darren Pattereson, Donny Page, Ray Wood etc
Pitch invasions and good old fashioned football mayhem in general.
He became a professional boxer.
I had a few pints with him one night when I living in St Helens as my (ex) Mrs knew his.
Nice bloke. Crap boxer and goalkeeper though.
4 February 2014 at 5:14 pm #126793Surely a pointless signing is one which was never needed in the first place rather than one who didn’t turn out to be very good.
The Beed using Taibi as an example doesn’t work – United needed a keeper & they signed one. That he turned out to be total garbage doesn’t make it pointless.At latics I’d probably go with 3 of Bobby’s loan signings – Sinclair, Van Aanholt & Hernandez.
If you’re gonna bring someone in on loan then you need to be 100% sure that you’re gonna use them whilst they’re with the club. To bring someone like that in & then hardly ever use them just smacks of going to a club, asking if they had anyone you could loan & simply taking who they offered without doing any kind of research or scouting of em.
I’m sure that’s not what happened but that’s how it looked from the outside looking inCan’t speak for the Sinclair and Hernandez situations, but I do know that Van Aanholt left a lot to be desired in the eyes of the club managemment in terms of his attitude and willingness to be a part of the squad.
4 February 2014 at 5:56 pm #126794I’m not sure if you can class those three as pointless. Sinclair made quite a few appearances that season (and scored in a cup game), but turned out not to be as good as everyone expected. Van Aaanholt was a good player but it was his attitude that got him ostracised.I think Henriquez (I wish it had been Hernandez) was brought in purely as back up as we were desperately short of strikers.
If you’re looking at pointless signings made be Martinez I’d look more towards Nouha Dicko and Filip Orsula.
That’s the point I was making about loan signings though. As they’re a short term fix, there’s no point bringing them in unless you’re gonna play them & as such are better than what you have fit & available.
In that respect, if it was his attitude that stank you can probably strike Van Aanholt from the “pointless” list but I can’t with the other two. Coz they weren’t any better than Latics had available at the time & Bobby didn’t even seem to know how best to utilise SinclairWith Dicko & Orsula I can understand them even if they’ve both gone without barely making a dent on the first team squad. They were both signed as potential & ones for the future & I can understand that with a young, long term deal but not with someone you’re only gonna have for a year
For pointless permanent ones from Bobby I guess the Lopez one would be top of my list – after months of faffing round with legal bods at UEFA & FIFA to get em to rule on his contract status (& the money that legal wrangling undoutedly cost) I thought he must be somet special. Unfortunately for the 2 & a half seasons he was a member of the squad, Bobby only seemed prepared to play him if it was a choice between Lopez & me for that last centre half spot
4 February 2014 at 5:58 pm #126795Big Joe was a doorman at the time wasn’t he?Tony Pennock Latics legend. Coventry FA Cup away must be in most Latics lads top 5 away games who were around at that time. Darren Pattereson, Donny Page, Ray Wood etc
Pitch invasions and good old fashioned football mayhem in general.
It was a good un alright although as it was the first football game I’d ever drank beer before & after (I was 15 at the time) my recollections of it are a bit hazy
4 February 2014 at 6:04 pm #126796I had a few pints with him one night when I living in St Helens as my (ex) Mrs knew his.Nice bloke. Crap boxer and goalkeeper though.
He currently runs Sutton Boxing Club in St Helens
And in the dim & distant past his mum once kicked 7 shades out of my mother-in-law so maybe that’s where he gets his boxing ability from5 February 2014 at 7:59 pm #126853Quite a few bad signings have been mentioned here as opposed to pointless ones. Looking more for signings who were always injured or never featured.
Carlo Nash would be one as would the Italian keeper we signed with the incredibly hot Mrs. Raphael Nuzzo??
5 February 2014 at 10:13 pm #126859Quite a few bad signings have been mentioned here as opposed to pointless ones. Looking more for signings who were always injured or never featured.Carlo Nash would be one as would the Italian keeper we signed with the incredibly hot Mrs. Raphael Nuzzo??
Nash played in the reserves and so not pointless !
5 February 2014 at 11:21 pm #126863Tend to agree that in the main goalkeeper signings aren’t pointless. They may not play, but if they are needed then they are there. The point was they were there as backup.
Now for example signing Albrighton this season to me was pointless.
6 February 2014 at 2:24 am #126879Kevin nicholls. Always injured during his time with the club. Only featured when bruce came in then was offloaded.
claim to fame though – he lived in the next street to me facing my house in winstanley.6 February 2014 at 2:38 am #126880Had a long chat with Kevin Nicholls once in that barbers shop on frog lane while we were both waiting and he seemed a really sound bloke to me . it’s a bit unfair to call him a pointless signing though given that he went on to have a fairly decent career at Luton town and he did have some bad injuries.
I remember him kicking somebody 5 feet into the air then walking away the picture of innocence before the ref collared him,one of the funniest things I have seen at football.6 February 2014 at 3:04 pm #126901IIRC though, both of those were signed when we already had a number of ‘keepers on the books and were only ever played in the reserves or sat in the stands. Considering the wage that Nash was probably on I would deem it pointless.
6 February 2014 at 3:23 pm #126903it’s a bit unfair to call him a pointless signing though given that he went on to have a fairly decent career at Luton town and he did have some bad injuriesI think the thing with Nicholls signing though was that he shold never have got through a medical in the first place.
His knee was knackered when he joined & kept him out till he made his debut (probably around October time) & he just looked completely unfit. Came back at the tail end of that season
He was involved though in most of the games the season after (Bruce’s cameo season) -
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