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It’s good news that the government are to review standing at football stadiums across the top two divisions.
Whether we will get a choice at the DW is something that the fans will no doubt be asking about, and now we are in the hands of new owners it may be more likely than when Dave Whelan owned the ground.
One thing I don’t understand about this though, is, why is it necessary to fix fold down seats to the new rail areas?
I know, for certain European comps standing may not be allowed and it would mean areas of grounds being closed, but if it’s a standing area then seats are surely not required.
I think it is great that the debate is on. Personally I prefer to sit but if it separates the sitters from the standers and they can stand safely without the issues of yesteryear then it would be a great thing. I noticed at Shrewsbury on the news that the standing area was at the back of the stand behind the seating area, that is something that could be easily implemented at the dw behind the goals.
The problem will be you will still get fans standing in the seating area if they can’t get tickets in the standing area. The bigger problem will be, the stewards and police will do Jack shyte.
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What a journey!I don’t want terracing to come back. Those days are gone. Stadiums have progressed, for the better. Plus, clubs can charge more for a seat.
Some good reasons against already posted. I can think of 96 others as well.
I think fans should have a choice as you can with most other sports so welcome the debate and look forward to a change in the law.
As for your 96 other reasons VAT, there was a little bit more to it than just the terraces.As yet, no one has offered a reason why seats need to be attached to the rails in the standing sections.
I think fans should have a choice as you can with most other sports so welcome the debate and look forward to a change in the law.
As for your 96 other reasons VAT, there was a little bit more to it than just the terraces.As yet, no one has offered a reason why seats need to be attached to the rails in the standing sections.
Regardless, what happened that day wouldn’t have happened in an all seated stadium.
A For whatever reason, too many people were allowed into the central pens that day.
B The fences were only up due to crowd trouble and hooliganism in the 70s and 80s. They were
put up to keep the fans off the pitch, and sadly that day they worked too well.My concern is that standing is brought back into our game. Pitch invasions both celebratory and of the hooliganism type become a regular thing. A couple of years down the line, somebody gets the bright idea that fences are a necessity again.
Back to square one. No thanks, I’ll sit.
I wouldn’t worry vat the DW is not suitable for standing as I have posted many times the terraces are too steep. Without a massive rebuild costing millions standing will never happen in the stadium as it is. I very much doubt it will pass the tests which were carried out at the Hawthorns.
I wouldn’t worry vat the DW is not suitable for standing as I have posted many times the terraces are too steep. Without a massive rebuild costing millions standing will never happen in the stadium as it is. I very much doubt it will pass the tests which were carried out at the Hawthorns.I don’t get that point – the safe standing areas have a crush barrier on every row so what does the steepness of the terrace have to do with it? If anything, you’ve far less chance of tumbling over the crush barrier than you have of going over a seat (as I did at Wembley). And you can’t slip under them either coz there’s an upright seat bolted in place.
Not having a go at all. I just don’t get the argument about the gradient of the terracing. If it’s safe enough to walk down the stairs with no hand rail then it should be safe enough with a barrier every few feetThey carry out an angles test like they did at West Brom to see if rail seating can be safely used the DW is purposely designed as an all seater unlike some stadiums that put sears on existing standing terraces. As usual health and safety will rule the day and dictate which grounds are suitable and which aren’t. Anyway its only being debated my feeling is the Hillsborough tragedy will be a part of the debate and that will be the end of it.
They carry out an angles test like they did at West Brom to see if rail seating can be safely used the DW is purposely designed as an all seater unlike some stadiums that put sears on existing standing terraces. As usual health and safety will rule the day and dictate which grounds are suitable and which aren’t. Anyway its only being debated my feeling is the Hillsborough tragedy will be a part of the debate and that will be the end of it.That doesn’t make any sense from any perspective – if you have a rail on every row then where is the H&S hazard with the angle of the terrace? There isn’t any
I suspect that if there are are existing guidelines about the steepness of a terrace that it relates to traditional terracing and that if they start to allow these rail seats then the guidelines would be changedThe memory of Hillsborough should play a part in considerations but as someone else has pointed out the new standing areas would bear next to no resemblance to the old terraces & as long as the unsafe aspects of that type of terracing are all addressed then again I see no reason why the new terracing shouldn’t be allowed.
As someone else has pointed out you can stand at every other spectator sport in England other than the top 2 tiers of English football & the continued ban despite the advancements makes no sense
I simply don’t understand why anyone would want to stand in a stadium as good as the DW. If you take the kids or grandkids their view is unrestricted unless your sat behind Peter Crouch. Whether in the East,West or South you can see everything that’s going on. As soon as some stand however you are forced to do the same to see. The DW is a brilliantly designed stadium and is perfect as it is. Its not broke so don’t fix it.
I simply don’t understand why anyone would want to stand in a stadium as good as the DW. If you take the kids or grandkids their view is unrestricted unless your sat behind Peter Crouch. Whether in the East,West or South you can see everything that’s going on. As soon as some stand however you are forced to do the same to see. The DW is a brilliantly designed stadium and is perfect as it is. Its not broke so don’t fix it.Its just a matter of choice.
Personally I prefer to stand up to watch football & always have and I also feel that it improves the atmosphere.
If people prefer to sit down then that’s their choice.People should be given the choice though just as they are everywhere other than the top 2 divisions of English football which is ludicrous.
Sport is all about emotions and there are times when people feel compelled to stand up whether its an attack or a goal or whatever. By creating standing sections those who like to stand at such times can do so without annoying the people who are sat behind around them.I can’t find anything anywhere about gradients & that being the reason why WBA had their request for a trial area turned down. As far as I can see it was turned down purely because they were in the top 2 divisions at the time of the request
I simply don’t understand why anyone would want to stand in a stadium as good as the DW. If you take the kids or grandkids their view is unrestricted unless your sat behind Peter Crouch. Whether in the East,West or South you can see everything that’s going on. As soon as some stand however you are forced to do the same to see. The DW is a brilliantly designed stadium and is perfect as it is. Its not broke so don’t fix it.
Its just a matter of choice.
Personally I prefer to stand up to watch football & always have and I also feel that it improves the atmosphere.
If people prefer to sit down then that’s their choice.People should be given the choice though just as they are everywhere other than the top 2 divisions of English football which is ludicrous.
Sport is all about emotions and there are times when people feel compelled to stand up whether its an attack or a goal or whatever. By creating standing sections those who like to stand at such times can do so without annoying the people who are sat behind around them.I can’t find anything anywhere about gradients & that being the reason why WBA had their request for a trial area turned down. As far as I can see it was turned down purely because they were in the top 2 divisions at the time of the request[/quote]
Absolutely tilders WBA were turned down as you say coz its not been debated and passed yet but tests were carried out if all reports at the time were true and the ground passed them all. But as you correctly say the top 2 divisions must be all seated at this time which is why Albion cant trial it but Shrewsbury can.
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