Shipping 69 goals and with only Hull and Burnley shipping just a few more I think it would be safe to say that he needs a defensive coach next season plus a couple of decent defenders !
That wasn’t necessarily down to problems with the defence but more a issue regarding the attitude of the team as a whole, which seemed to get better as the season went on.
Shipping 69 goals and with only Hull and Burnley shipping just a few more I think it would be safe to say that he needs a defensive coach next season plus a couple of decent defenders !
That wasn’t necessarily down to problems with the defence but more a issue regarding the attitude of the team as a whole, which seemed to get better as the season went on.[/quote]
Shipping 69 goals in my opinion IS something todo with the defense !!
good review that pal… personally a new right back is essential..if we can keep figgy thats fine if not hopefully get a good replacement. Kirkland for me isnt the best, but i think we’d have too spend 6mil+ too get a better quality keeper unfortunetly, so it looks like he will stay. Caldwell for me id say is very poor (maybe controvercial i know) i watched him against kevin davies weeks back then carlton cole at the weekend and he was aweful never got tight enough won hardly any headers looked sluggish, he can definetly tackle well and leads well but isnt the complete package which we need. A more experienced midfielder would be good and maybe a new right winger but all in all the midfield is decent all fighting for positions and plenty of cover. Strikers we’ve lacked all season in a good way its not too bad as we play 4-5-1 so we only need 1 for most of the game. Scotland needs a new club, he’d probably leave and score plenty but before he comes deadwood like kapo we need to get rid. Moreno personally id keep depending on the figure they want hes got the crudentials some hard training in pre season and i think he would be a great player to have.
My outs would be…
Melchiot, Scotland, koumas, Kapo, Amaya, pollitt, scharner, sinclair, de-ridder, cho, Gomez, caldwell
In’s Dindane, van den borre, K’Gibbs (Leftback maybe longshot) New keeper,aduriz(real mallorca) Onouha (long shot- would be class tho) Jamie o’hara (nzog replacement?) pablo piatti(rodellega replacement massive long shot though)
Are you crazy? Dindane and Van den Borre are shocking to say the least, they just look good in a poor Pompey side (awaits 4-0 and Dindane scored a hattrick response)
Fair play Jamie O’Hara is good, but he’s a centre mid, I don’t think he’d be a good replacement for N’Zogbia if it’s a winger we’re looking for.
I think we need a new…
Back up keeper
Right Back
Centre Back
Right mid (or left depending on whether Charlie stays and where Bobby plans on playing Moses next year)
Attacking centre mid, or the “Gomez role”
Striker
Are you crazy? Dindane and Van den Borre are shocking to say the least, they just look good in a poor Pompey side (awaits 4-0 and Dindane scored a hattrick response)
Fair play Jamie O’Hara is good, but he’s a centre mid, I don’t think he’d be a good replacement for N’Zogbia if it’s a winger we’re looking for.
I think we need a new…
Back up keeper
Right Back
Centre Back
Right mid (or left depending on whether Charlie stays and where Bobby plans on playing Moses next year)
Attacking centre mid, or the “Gomez role”
Striker
Are you crazy? Dindane and Van den Borre are shocking to say the least, they just look good in a poor Pompey side (awaits 4-0 and Dindane scored a hattrick response)
Fair play Jamie O’Hara is good, but he’s a centre mid, I don’t think he’d be a good replacement for N’Zogbia if it’s a winger we’re looking for.
I think we need a new…
Back up keeper
Right Back
Centre Back
Right mid (or left depending on whether Charlie stays and where Bobby plans on playing Moses next year)
Attacking centre mid, or the “Gomez role”
Striker
i wouldnt say either of them 2 are shocking, Dindane is far better than scotland/ moreno so hes better than our strikers… and i thought van den borre had a good game against wigan hes belgiums no1 right back. He played very well considering he was playing allong side a bunch of reserves…. Im sure bobby will do us proud with regards too signings we’l have a young talented squad :D
If I can I’ll just respond to a few points made in this thread:
“When we have clicked we have been immense, when we haven’t clicked we have been poor” – I’d agree with that statement but with a completely different slant from the original poster. IMO we’ve “clicked” in 6 full games this season (Villa, Chelsea, Burnley, Wolves away, city at home & Liverpool) and 10 phenomenal minutes against Arsenal. In the vast majority of the remaining 31 games played so far we’ve either been below average or downright gash (& I include games in which 3 points have been picked up). So when I hear people saying “Bobby just needs to sort out a bit of consistency” to me its a far bigger problem. trying to improve on playing well in 6 games out of 31 is a far bigger problem than needing to improve consistency
“He will have more of an idea what is needed this time around” – Will he? And on what basis are those types of statements made? IMO our performances deteriorated as the season went on so i fail to see what he was learning. He continued to make the same mistakes over & over again. Its only my opinion but I felt that after the Arsenal game Bobby had 2 big decisions to make i.e. did he bring back Caldwell at the expense of Gohouri & did he persist with Moreno up front & Rodallega on the wing or stick with the players who had finished the Arsenal game so well. Again, only my opinion but I think he made the wrong decision for both of them. Pishes me off even more when the manager states in an interview after the game that “there was nothing we could do, it was West Ham’s day” ??????? :roll:
“But to think we have two of the most exciting young players in the Premier League in McCarthy and Moses” – Can we hand on heart say that Moses is one of the most exciting prospects in the game??? Forget all the clubs who were “allegedly” interested in him. Only ourselves & 3 championship clubs put bids in. So whilst i hope he’s gonna be great I wouldn’t say what a great prospect he is based on who he was linked with coz I think it was a bit of mischief making on behalf of the selling club & agent to entice a bid out of Latics. Secondly, how much game time has Bobby decided to give him?? 10 minutes here & there as a sub, we got a poor performance from him when he started against Bolton & he didn’t rip up trees on saturday neither. By no means am I writing him off but one of the most exciting young players in the league? he aint shown it yet
“We have had games where we have been unlucky and decisions have gone against us” – Swings and roundabouts though coz we’ve also had games in which we’ve been awful & managed to nick points & in which the opposition fans have come away moaning about key decisions going our way
If I can I’ll just respond to a few points made in this thread:
“When we have clicked we have been immense, when we haven’t clicked we have been poor” – I’d agree with that statement but with a completely different slant from the original poster. IMO we’ve “clicked” in 6 full games this season (Villa, Chelsea, Burnley, Wolves away, city at home & Liverpool) and 10 phenomenal minutes against Arsenal. In the vast majority of the remaining 31 games played so far we’ve either been below average or downright gash (& I include games in which 3 points have been picked up). So when I hear people saying “Bobby just needs to sort out a bit of consistency” to me its a far bigger problem. trying to improve on playing well in 6 games out of 31 is a far bigger problem than needing to improve consistency
“He will have more of an idea what is needed this time around” – Will he? And on what basis are those types of statements made? IMO our performances deteriorated as the season went on so i fail to see what he was learning. He continued to make the same mistakes over & over again. Its only my opinion but I felt that after the Arsenal game Bobby had 2 big decisions to make i.e. did he bring back Caldwell at the expense of Gohouri & did he persist with Moreno up front & Rodallega on the wing or stick with the players who had finished the Arsenal game so well. Again, only my opinion but I think he made the wrong decision for both of them. Pishes me off even more when the manager states in an interview after the game that “there was nothing we could do, it was West Ham’s day” ??????? :roll:
“But to think we have two of the most exciting young players in the Premier League in McCarthy and Moses” – Can we hand on heart say that Moses is one of the most exciting prospects in the game??? Forget all the clubs who were “allegedly” interested in him. Only ourselves & 3 championship clubs put bids in. So whilst i hope he’s gonna be great I wouldn’t say what a great prospect he is based on who he was linked with coz I think it was a bit of mischief making on behalf of the selling club & agent to entice a bid out of Latics. Secondly, how much game time has Bobby decided to give him?? 10 minutes here & there as a sub, we got a poor performance from him when he started against Bolton & he didn’t rip up trees on saturday neither. By no means am I writing him off but one of the most exciting young players in the league? he aint shown it yet
“We have had games where we have been unlucky and decisions have gone against us” – Swings and roundabouts though coz we’ve also had games in which we’ve been awful & managed to nick points & in which the opposition fans have come away moaning about key decisions going our way
You’re just a shining beacon of light, aren’t you? :D
Difficult to argue with a lot of your points but I’d like to think that the good ideas that I believe Bobby has about playing football will consistently find a way out next season, and let’s hope that the difficulties he has experienced this season will stand him in good stead for the future. There’s no guarantee that it will though, and we may be in for another bumpy ride.
I hope so Griff & I really wish I could see these things that convince some people to say that Bobby is the man for the job, but bar the odd bit here & there I can’t – I hope I’m proved wrong
Being the saddo that I am in my lunch break yesterday I ran through a list of our squad for each position, the players I felt we needed to get rid of coz they aint good enough & the players that will probably be flogged to raise transfer funds & it didn’t make good reading.
i had us needing 2 keepers (Pollit, Stojkovic & Kingson all being released), 1 right back, 2 left backs (Figueroa being sold), 1 centre half (if Gohouri is signed up), 1 right winger, 2 left wingers (N’Zogbia being sold), 2 central midfielders/”in the hole”rs & 3 centre forwards (Scotland being flogged, Moreno released & Rodallega being sold).
Not saying that’ll happen but if Bobby wants to progress the club as opposed to it treading water then that’s what i think needs to happen
I hope so Griff & I really wish I could see these things that convince some people to say that Bobby is the man for the job, but bar the odd bit here & there I can’t – I hope I’m proved wrong
Being the saddo that I am in my lunch break yesterday I ran through a list of our squad for each position, the players I felt we needed to get rid of coz they aint good enough & the players that will probably be flogged to raise transfer funds & it didn’t make good reading.
i had us needing 2 keepers (Pollit, Stojkovic & Kingson all being released), 1 right back, 2 left backs (Figueroa being sold), 1 centre half (if Gohouri is signed up), 1 right winger, 2 left wingers (N’Zogbia being sold), 2 central midfielders/”in the hole”rs & 3 centre forwards (Scotland being flogged, Moreno released & Rodallega being sold).
Not saying that’ll happen but if Bobby wants to progress the club as opposed to it treading water then that’s what i think needs to happen
I have always hoped that he would be the man for the job rather than convinced that he was.
Mind you, if he reckoned he needed 3 transfer windows (and only has one of them left) to get to where he wants to be, with the clear out you’re recommending he’d probably need 33 :shock:
Regarding the clear out, I included everybody who I feel over the last season/s isn’t up to the job
I can’t really see the use in keeping the likes of Koumas, Gomez, Scotland, Bouaouzzan (??), De Ridder, Kapo, Amaya, Sinclair, Stojkovic, Kingson & loads of others I can’t remember now who have either had chance after chance to prove themselves & aint up to the job or in their season here have hardly featured or just not looked up to scratch, simply for the sake of making up squad numbers.
These players aren’t good enough & if Bobby wants to progress as he says he does all those who aint good enough need clearing out
On top of that I think unfortunately we’ll also lose Figueroa, N’Zogbia & Rodallega to other clubs
So Bobby either has to have a massive clear out & almost totally rebuild his squad (in which case I think we’re f00ked) or he keeps hold of most of those who make up the numbers & loses 3 of his star players & has to replace them with cheaper versions (in which case I think we’re f00ked)