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    Ellington’s future was doomed when he got married and converted to Islam during the 2004 – 2005 season. I will state here that that isn’t intended as a racist comment, far from it in fact, as I am respectful towards anyone who has that much faith in a belief or cause (cue comments regarding Martinez and 4-5-1…).

    For the past four years since 2005, Ramadan has fallen towards the latter part of the year, or more specifically, the start of the football season and during Ramadan, Muslims are not permitted to eat during daylight hours. In Islam, exceptions can be made for professional sportsmen (it is a religion that has lots of ‘No, no, never, oh, go on then’), but with Ellington as a new convert, he, without a shadow of doubt, would have observed Ramadan.

    With that in mind, is it any wonder that on moving to each new club he has played for since leaving Wigan, it has been commented on that he seemed lazy and lacking in any energy or determination? The lad has started every season running on empty. There are Muslim footballers who can perform well during Ramadan, but Ellington had not grown up with a yearly Ramadan, and his body is not as acclimatised to it. Saying that, I used to work with a Muslim lad who fasted every year, and who played a good standard of Hockey. His team got battered during Ramadan every year because three quarters of them hadn’t eaten during the day, and he freely admitted that it was a practice that was definitely not suited to professional sport.

    So, that’s my take on what happened to Ellington, and although the breakup of the partnership with Roberts was part of it, I’m sure the timing of his new found faith and dip in form wasn’t mere coincidence.

    #15877
    Vat69Vat69
    Player

      I think I mentioned on here recently, that I had read about Niclas Anelka, who is also Muslim, and was a rigid observer of Ramadan…..

      …until experts within the sport worked out that it was contributing to losses of form, and perhaps making him more likely to pick up injury even. So he decided not to observe it as rigidly, especially when in the football season.

      Not done him any harm, cutting back from it, has it? Surely Ellington could be the same? Any problem from his wife or in-laws, and he should basically say “See this big house and this nice car? My football has paid for it. I was a footballer, before I was a muslim”.

      #15879
      wigmonalec
      Player
        Ellington’s future was doomed when he got married and converted to Islam during the 2004 – 2005 season. I will state here that that isn’t intended as a racist comment, far from it in fact, as I am respectful towards anyone who has that much faith in a belief or cause (cue comments regarding Martinez and 4-5-1…).

        For the past four years since 2005, Ramadan has fallen towards the latter part of the year, or more specifically, the start of the football season and during Ramadan, Muslims are not permitted to eat during daylight hours. In Islam, exceptions can be made for professional sportsmen (it is a religion that has lots of ‘No, no, never, oh, go on then’), but with Ellington as a new convert, he, without a shadow of doubt, would have observed Ramadan.

        With that in mind, is it any wonder that on moving to each new club he has played for since leaving Wigan, it has been commented on that he seemed lazy and lacking in any energy or determination? The lad has started every season running on empty. There are Muslim footballers who can perform well during Ramadan, but Ellington had not grown up with a yearly Ramadan, and his body is not as acclimatised to it. Saying that, I used to work with a Muslim lad who fasted every year, and who played a good standard of Hockey. His team got battered during Ramadan every year because three quarters of them hadn’t eaten during the day, and he freely admitted that it was a practice that was definitely not suited to professional sport.

        So, that’s my take on what happened to Ellington, and although the breakup of the partnership with Roberts was part of it, I’m sure the timing of his new found faith and dip in form wasn’t mere coincidence.

        did,nt effect ZAKI much

        #15880

        Ellington’s future was doomed when he got married and converted to Islam during the 2004 – 2005 season. I will state here that that isn’t intended as a racist comment, far from it in fact, as I am respectful towards anyone who has that much faith in a belief or cause (cue comments regarding Martinez and 4-5-1…).

        For the past four years since 2005, Ramadan has fallen towards the latter part of the year, or more specifically, the start of the football season and during Ramadan, Muslims are not permitted to eat during daylight hours. In Islam, exceptions can be made for professional sportsmen (it is a religion that has lots of ‘No, no, never, oh, go on then’), but with Ellington as a new convert, he, without a shadow of doubt, would have observed Ramadan.

        With that in mind, is it any wonder that on moving to each new club he has played for since leaving Wigan, it has been commented on that he seemed lazy and lacking in any energy or determination? The lad has started every season running on empty. There are Muslim footballers who can perform well during Ramadan, but Ellington had not grown up with a yearly Ramadan, and his body is not as acclimatised to it. Saying that, I used to work with a Muslim lad who fasted every year, and who played a good standard of Hockey. His team got battered during Ramadan every year because three quarters of them hadn’t eaten during the day, and he freely admitted that it was a practice that was definitely not suited to professional sport.

        So, that’s my take on what happened to Ellington, and although the breakup of the partnership with Roberts was part of it, I’m sure the timing of his new found faith and dip in form wasn’t mere coincidence.

        i may expell the odd breath of hot air as you accussed me of in another post on here,but standish you could run a 50 megawatt power station on the methane coming from the s h i t e you talk.

        #15886
        Vat69Vat69
        Player

          Ellington’s future was doomed when he got married and converted to Islam during the 2004 – 2005 season. I will state here that that isn’t intended as a racist comment, far from it in fact, as I am respectful towards anyone who has that much faith in a belief or cause (cue comments regarding Martinez and 4-5-1…).

          For the past four years since 2005, Ramadan has fallen towards the latter part of the year, or more specifically, the start of the football season and during Ramadan, Muslims are not permitted to eat during daylight hours. In Islam, exceptions can be made for professional sportsmen (it is a religion that has lots of ‘No, no, never, oh, go on then’), but with Ellington as a new convert, he, without a shadow of doubt, would have observed Ramadan.

          With that in mind, is it any wonder that on moving to each new club he has played for since leaving Wigan, it has been commented on that he seemed lazy and lacking in any energy or determination? The lad has started every season running on empty. There are Muslim footballers who can perform well during Ramadan, but Ellington had not grown up with a yearly Ramadan, and his body is not as acclimatised to it. Saying that, I used to work with a Muslim lad who fasted every year, and who played a good standard of Hockey. His team got battered during Ramadan every year because three quarters of them hadn’t eaten during the day, and he freely admitted that it was a practice that was definitely not suited to professional sport.

          So, that’s my take on what happened to Ellington, and although the breakup of the partnership with Roberts was part of it, I’m sure the timing of his new found faith and dip in form wasn’t mere coincidence.

          did,nt effect ZAKI much[/quote]

          Bit different though, growing up with it, rather than converting to it, I’d say.

          #15897
          wigmonalec
          Player

            i,m thinking jason scotlands turn,t muslim? since he left swansea :lol: :lol: :lol:

            #15900

            Ellington’s future was doomed when he got married and converted to Islam during the 2004 – 2005 season. I will state here that that isn’t intended as a racist comment, far from it in fact, as I am respectful towards anyone who has that much faith in a belief or cause (cue comments regarding Martinez and 4-5-1…).

            For the past four years since 2005, Ramadan has fallen towards the latter part of the year, or more specifically, the start of the football season and during Ramadan, Muslims are not permitted to eat during daylight hours. In Islam, exceptions can be made for professional sportsmen (it is a religion that has lots of ‘No, no, never, oh, go on then’), but with Ellington as a new convert, he, without a shadow of doubt, would have observed Ramadan.

            With that in mind, is it any wonder that on moving to each new club he has played for since leaving Wigan, it has been commented on that he seemed lazy and lacking in any energy or determination? The lad has started every season running on empty. There are Muslim footballers who can perform well during Ramadan, but Ellington had not grown up with a yearly Ramadan, and his body is not as acclimatised to it. Saying that, I used to work with a Muslim lad who fasted every year, and who played a good standard of Hockey. His team got battered during Ramadan every year because three quarters of them hadn’t eaten during the day, and he freely admitted that it was a practice that was definitely not suited to professional sport.

            So, that’s my take on what happened to Ellington, and although the breakup of the partnership with Roberts was part of it, I’m sure the timing of his new found faith and dip in form wasn’t mere coincidence.

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            i may expell the odd breath of hot air as you accussed me of in another post on here,but standish you could run a 50 megawatt power station on the methane coming from the s h i t e you talk.[/quote]

            You ‘expell the odd beath of hot air’? I’d say that was an understatment of gigantic proportions.

            I presume if you refer to my post as sh1te, then that means it is untruthful? If so, please point out where that untruth is Bamber.

            It may be hot air, and it may be my opinion, but it’s all 100% factually accurate.

            #15904

            Ellington’s future was doomed when he got married and converted to Islam during the 2004 – 2005 season. I will state here that that isn’t intended as a racist comment, far from it in fact, as I am respectful towards anyone who has that much faith in a belief or cause (cue comments regarding Martinez and 4-5-1…).

            For the past four years since 2005, Ramadan has fallen towards the latter part of the year, or more specifically, the start of the football season and during Ramadan, Muslims are not permitted to eat during daylight hours. In Islam, exceptions can be made for professional sportsmen (it is a religion that has lots of ‘No, no, never, oh, go on then’), but with Ellington as a new convert, he, without a shadow of doubt, would have observed Ramadan.

            With that in mind, is it any wonder that on moving to each new club he has played for since leaving Wigan, it has been commented on that he seemed lazy and lacking in any energy or determination? The lad has started every season running on empty. There are Muslim footballers who can perform well during Ramadan, but Ellington had not grown up with a yearly Ramadan, and his body is not as acclimatised to it. Saying that, I used to work with a Muslim lad who fasted every year, and who played a good standard of Hockey. His team got battered during Ramadan every year because three quarters of them hadn’t eaten during the day, and he freely admitted that it was a practice that was definitely not suited to professional sport.

            So, that’s my take on what happened to Ellington, and although the breakup of the partnership with Roberts was part of it, I’m sure the timing of his new found faith and dip in form wasn’t mere coincidence.

            did,nt effect ZAKI much[/quote]

            As I said, it doesn’t affect every Muslim player, and a lot of them do not observe it. Mido didn’t observe it, but I don’t know if Zaki did or not.

            They are allowed to ‘opt out’ if they are working in a foreign country, so even though Zaki is a more strict observer of Islam than Mido, that might have been his get-out clause.

            Mourinho got himself into trouble not so long ago by saying something similar.

            http://www.soccernews.com/italian-musli … nho/22708/

            #15907
            i,m thinking jason scotlands turn,t muslim? since he left swansea :lol: :lol: :lol:

            I think a month of fasting might not be a bad thing for him. Shedding a bit of timber wouldn’t do him any harm.

            #15916
            SammySammy
            Player

              “It may be hot air, and it may be my opinion, but it’s all 100% factually accurate.”

              I think there is contradition in that statement.

              #15922
              ”It may be hot air, and it may be my opinion, but it’s all 100% factually accurate.”

              I think there is contradition in that statement.

              Fair point. Should have said ‘….but the information contained within is all 100% accurate.’

              #15923
              The DukeThe Duke
              Player

                Come on Nathan!! What are you playing at lad!!

                Do we think skoda xanthi will be interested in a swap deal involving the elephant? aka Jason Scotland.

                In all truth, his career went down the pan when he left us. That’s clear to see, he was an awesome striker before he left. And no one can deny that he was, but I’m not sure why he went c.r.a.p, maybe it’s the ramadam s.h.i.t.e like vat says. But if he had reached his potential he would have been awesome. Fact.

                #15926

                Why do people insist on using “fact” to follow a manifestly unquantifiable subjective comment?

                Dictionaries all round please, Santa

                #15928
                The DukeThe Duke
                Player

                  Because there are to many d.i.c.k ends like you that no matter what anyone says, will disagree or find a flaw in their comment.

                  #15930

                  “d.i.c.k ends” :)

                  I can feel the anger in that typing – I bet your full stop key is goosed, isn’t it. Do you have to prise it back out with a knife, or something?

                  Actually, I only try to disagree with people who I disagree with. And people who are disagreeable.

                  And stupid.

                  Only joking, cocker, I’m in one of those moods today. ;)

                  Carry on!

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