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According to FSF:
Safe standing on agenda for meeting of PL chairmen and chief executives – The Times reported that rail seating will be on the agenda at the next Premier League shareholders’ meeting, due to be held on Thursday, November 18th.
Would they seriously consider taking out seating? The cost woukd be enormous. Next theyll be discussing whether to let us drink in the stands!!I would doubt that you could put rail seating on stands designed for normal seats. The steepness of the steps may be a safety issue. The ones in Germany were always designed to take rail seating so the steps are wider and not as steep. Whether or not if you take the existing seats out you can then alter the stand without knocking it down to make safe standing areas is another argument.
Modern stadiums are designed for seating and like Nuneaton said they are narrower then of those in Germany for instance. That isn’t to say it can’t happen as the FSF has looked very hard into this and seem to think their findings show that safety is fine with what is being proposed.
My view is that all the stadiums/Clubs have invested a lot of money into all-seater stadiums, and it would cost a small fortune to change even a small area of the stands into terracing.
Most football goers now are also used to sitting, anyone 25 and under probably don’t even know what it was like to stand at games, so would pubic support fro it be that great?FA Cup Winners 2013, sounds good that
Premier League clubs have agreed to more talks regards this.
What a load of b*llocks this is though:
More from Sue Roberts from the Hillsborough Foundation after Premier League clubs discussed safe standing for the first time today.
All-seater stadiums have been compulsory in the top two divisions in England since an inquiry into the 1989 Hillsborough disaster, which claimed the lives of 96 Liverpool fans.
“If people were going into a seated area [Hillsbrough] could never have happened,” Roberts said.
“Why break what isn’t broke? There’s been no accidents since [Hillsbrough].”
“We’re only thinking of the safety of others. It’s too late for us – we’ve already lost our loved ones through standing on terraces.
“We have a tendency to forget things in history. I think it’s one step in the wrong direction that will eventually lead to another step and then another step. I would hate to be still around to say I told you so.
“But if we let standards lapse, at some point in the future somebody will be saying why didn’t we listen?”
Too many people in a crowded seating area causes far more issues as there are less places to move too.
Premier League clubs have agreed to more talks regards this.What a load of b*llocks this is though:
More from Sue Roberts from the Hillsborough Foundation after Premier League clubs discussed safe standing for the first time today.
All-seater stadiums have been compulsory in the top two divisions in England since an inquiry into the 1989 Hillsborough disaster, which claimed the lives of 96 Liverpool fans.
“If people were going into a seated area [Hillsbrough] could never have happened,” Roberts said.
“Why break what isn’t broke? There’s been no accidents since [Hillsbrough].”
“We’re only thinking of the safety of others. It’s too late for us – we’ve already lost our loved ones through standing on terraces.
“We have a tendency to forget things in history. I think it’s one step in the wrong direction that will eventually lead to another step and then another step. I would hate to be still around to say I told you so.
“But if we let standards lapse, at some point in the future somebody will be saying why didn’t we listen?”
Too many people in a crowded seating area causes far more issues as there are less places to move too.
Last game of the 2008 season when ManUre won the title at ours. Hundreds of them piled in to the West Stand after close of play when the gates were open. Stewards had all bu***d off leaving us to sort ourselves out.
Some spotty ManUre youth thought it was clever to stand right in front of me when I was standing up for the presentation. He soon scarpered when I pointed out the Ambulance in the corner was waiting for him if he didnt shift prompto. :evil:
We may be in a position to have safe standing if we can redevelop the corners although it would be very limited I imagine.
No need for standing areas, fans stand up anyway, dont think many newcastle, villa, leeds fans will be seated when they come to the dw.
We may be in a position to have safe standing if we can redevelop the corners although it would be very limited I imagine.Why would we redevelop the corners? The ground is never filled anyway by us or the lodgers.
We may be in a position to have safe standing if we can redevelop the corners although it would be very limited I imagine.
Why would we redevelop the corners? The ground is never filled anyway by us or the lodgers.[/quote]
Because there is nowhere at the DW you could have standing without knocking a stand down and rebuilding it. Nowt to do with crowds just cost.
We may be in a position to have safe standing if we can redevelop the corners although it would be very limited I imagine.
Why would we redevelop the corners? The ground is never filled anyway by us or the lodgers.[/quote]
Because there is nowhere at the DW you could have standing without knocking a stand down and rebuilding it. Nowt to do with crowds just cost.[/quote]
My point being that there is no reason for the club/stadium owner to lay out that cost just because some (maybe even a lot) of people want to stand.
We may be in a position to have safe standing if we can redevelop the corners although it would be very limited I imagine.
Why would we redevelop the corners? The ground is never filled anyway by us or the lodgers.[/quote]
Because there is nowhere at the DW you could have standing without knocking a stand down and rebuilding it. Nowt to do with crowds just cost.[/quote]
My point being that there is no reason for the club/stadium owner to lay out that cost just because some (maybe even a lot) of people want to stand.[/quote]
Personally gl I don’t want to go back to standing I,m just pointing out that it is not just a matter of taking out seats in modern British stadia. Most grounds today cannot adapt to standing areas without a major rebuild where as grounds like ours with open corners at least have those areas that maybe could be utilized at far less cost and disruption.
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