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24 January 2014 at 11:44 am #126277
I also have watched football for close on 40 years, all of it watching Wigan , and a lot of it before all seater stadia came in.
I have also seen the safe standing areas in Germany in the last couple of years and because of the rail system there is no possibility of forward/backward movement and so no chance of crushing…. the only movement can be laterally.
In the years that they have been using the ‘standing areas’ there have been no more incidents than there were when those areas were seated.
A lot has happened in 25 years (which I think IS a long time ago) never mind 42 or 68 years.
The Taylor Report found that the main reason for the Hillsborough disaster was the failure of police control, meaning far too many people without tickets were getting in to the ground.
I personally think that the choice should be there, I loved standing whilst watching Wigan and think others should be able to do so if they wish to. Saying that, I wouldn’t now be one of those clambering to the standing area as I my kids who would be far more likely to whinge if they had to stand…..FA Cup Winners 2013, sounds good that
24 January 2014 at 1:06 pm #126284my kids who would be far more likely to whinge if they had to stand…..Your Dad would moan as well I think.
I prefer to stand personally but like the fact that I can arrive as late as I want and still have my prime spot which you would more than likely lose when standing
24 January 2014 at 9:50 pm #126307I also have watched football for close on 40 years, all of it watching Wigan , and a lot of it before all seater stadia came in.
I have also seen the safe standing areas in Germany in the last couple of years and because of the rail system there is no possibility of forward/backward movement and so no chance of crushing…. the only movement can be laterally.
In the years that they have been using the ‘standing areas’ there have been no more incidents than there were when those areas were seated.
A lot has happened in 25 years (which I think IS a long time ago) never mind 42 or 68 years.
The Taylor Report found that the main reason for the Hillsborough disaster was the failure of police control, meaning far too many people without tickets were getting in to the ground.
I personally think that the choice should be there, I loved standing whilst watching Wigan and think others should be able to do so if they wish to. Saying that, I wouldn’t now be one of those clambering to the standing area as I my kids who would be far more likely to whinge if they had to stand…..So to have SAFE standing areas the clubs will need more police to control the areas?
deffo not going to happen because the police bill would then fall at the clubs feet making the costs even more expensive than they are at the moment.
I agree with you that in life we should have choice and freedom however I also never want to see fatalities at football matches ever again- i doubt any club in this country will risk it to be honest.24 January 2014 at 10:18 pm #126309There were at least 12 Clubs that gave their vote a few days ago in favour, so there will certainly be at least 20% of the clubs voting for it….
FA Cup Winners 2013, sounds good that
24 January 2014 at 11:39 pm #126317I think the rail seat system looks really good and anyone in the process of having a new ground built would be silly not to look at it.Build the terraces to suit and its perfect but as I said before when the DW was under construction standing was never going to return. I don’t believe it will be down to just fans voting, safety will be a big issue and we may end up having the decision taken out of our hands.
25 January 2014 at 12:06 am #126320There were at least 12 Clubs that gave their vote a few days ago in favour, so there will certainly be at least 20% of the clubs voting for it….Who knows jayt ?
A generation has passed since the last major tragedy and maybe we should debate it out like we have just done in a mature and friendly way .
I used to enjoy standing on the very safe ‘pop side ‘ at springy however I did also stand on the very unsafe Hillsborough leppings lane .Some 15 months before the disaster I was in a the horrible crush and the fear I experienced that day lives with me still and It haunts me even now that the the authorities couldn’t see even then how dangerous that section of terracing was.
healthy debate is needed to argue this one out but I personally will take some convincing over the safety side. -
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