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  • #102143
    This deal could have been done 2wks ago, Barnsley will have told us there value but we went in below it instead of saying yeah we will pay it.

    How do you know? And if you’re right (which you’re not) how come Everton paid exactly the same that we offered?

    #102152
    Anonymous

      I’m personally don’t mind we missed out on Stones. He’s an 18 year old young lad, a good prospect but right now we need players but experienced players who can get us out the shitte.

      I’m pretty sure you wouldnt have seen him this season , Ithink we should now concentrate on our new Academy setup and bring our own through which aint about feckin time considering how many years we’ve been in the prem ffs.

      #102162
      filmossfilmoss
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        I’m personally don’t mind we missed out on Stones. He’s an 18 year old young lad, a good prospect but right now we need players but experienced players who can get us out the shitte.

        I’m pretty sure you wouldnt have seen him this season , Ithink we should now concentrate on our new Academy setup and bring our own through which aint about feckin time considering how many years we’ve been in the prem ffs.

        I was wondering why we were pursuing such a young player who we definitely would not have seen for several months when our defensive shortcomings are there for all to see. Threadbare and prone to numerous errors yet neither seem to have been addressed ?

        #102203
        jamescJamesC
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          I’m personally don’t mind we missed out on Stones. He’s an 18 year old young lad, a good prospect but right now we need players but experienced players who can get us out the shitte.

          I’m pretty sure you wouldnt have seen him this season , Ithink we should now concentrate on our new Academy setup and bring our own through which aint about feckin time considering how many years we’ve been in the prem ffs.

          I was wondering why we were pursuing such a young player who we definitely would not have seen for several months when our defensive shortcomings are there for all to see. Threadbare and prone to numerous errors yet neither seem to have been addressed ?[/quote]

          We persued him now as if we didn’t he would gone elsewhere, so we tried to sign him before another ‘Big’ club did, which would then leave us with no chance of ever being able to persue him again (I know he signed for Everton anyway but that’s not the point). So we treid to get hold of him when we had the chance, and fair play to the club for doing so. It seems as though we were unlucky.

          Also he may have featured this season, he is 18 I know but weirder things have happened than an 18 year old playing in the Prem. B)

          #102207
          filmossfilmoss
          Player

            I’m personally don’t mind we missed out on Stones. He’s an 18 year old young lad, a good prospect but right now we need players but experienced players who can get us out the shitte.

            I’m pretty sure you wouldnt have seen him this season , Ithink we should now concentrate on our new Academy setup and bring our own through which aint about feckin time considering how many years we’ve been in the prem ffs.

            I was wondering why we were pursuing such a young player who we definitely would not have seen for several months when our defensive shortcomings are there for all to see. Threadbare and prone to numerous errors yet neither seem to have been addressed ?[/quote]

            We persued him now as if we didn’t he would gone elsewhere, so we tried to sign him before another ‘Big’ club did, which would then leave us with no chance of ever being able to persue him again (I know he signed for Everton anyway but that’s not the point). So we treid to get hold of him when we had the chance, and fair play to the club for doing so. It seems as though we were unlucky.

            Also he may have featured this season, he is 18 I know but weirder things have happened than an 18 year old playing in the Prem. B)[/quote]

            I suspect you know full well what I meant by not seeing him for several months because RM does not like throwing kids in at the deep end and he has quoted that ! We needed to shore up the defence now and I know what you mean re one for the future but our future in the Prem is at stake here and so an immediate fix was needed in my opinion. Scharner is RM’s answer and so we must respect that I guess but I have my reservations ! The fat lad out on the left wing concerns me ! ;)

            #102210
            jamescJamesC
            Player

              I’m personally don’t mind we missed out on Stones. He’s an 18 year old young lad, a good prospect but right now we need players but experienced players who can get us out the shitte.

              I’m pretty sure you wouldnt have seen him this season , Ithink we should now concentrate on our new Academy setup and bring our own through which aint about feckin time considering how many years we’ve been in the prem ffs.

              I was wondering why we were pursuing such a young player who we definitely would not have seen for several months when our defensive shortcomings are there for all to see. Threadbare and prone to numerous errors yet neither seem to have been addressed ?[/quote]

              We persued him now as if we didn’t he would gone elsewhere, so we tried to sign him before another ‘Big’ club did, which would then leave us with no chance of ever being able to persue him again (I know he signed for Everton anyway but that’s not the point). So we treid to get hold of him when we had the chance, and fair play to the club for doing so. It seems as though we were unlucky.

              Also he may have featured this season, he is 18 I know but weirder things have happened than an 18 year old playing in the Prem. B)[/quote]

              I suspect you know full well what I meant by not seeing him for several months because RM does not like throwing kids in at the deep end and he has quoted that ! We needed to shore up the defence now and I know what you mean re one for the future but our future in the Prem is at stake here and so an immediate fix was needed in my opinion. Scharner is RM’s answer and so we must respect that I guess but I have my reservations ! The fat lad out on the left wing concerns me ! ;)[/quote]

              I do know what you mean regarding the possibility of not seeing him for a while, but at RWB he may not have actually needed to be that solid and ‘experienced’, just keep position and get a cross in ;) .. I do think we may have seen him play occasionally sooner than you would have thought, but gues we will never know.

              And the fat lad on the left must concern everybody! Worst player we have currently. Dogshit B)

              #102213

              I’m personally don’t mind we missed out on Stones. He’s an 18 year old young lad, a good prospect but right now we need players but experienced players who can get us out the shitte.

              I’m pretty sure you wouldnt have seen him this season , Ithink we should now concentrate on our new Academy setup and bring our own through which aint about feckin time considering how many years we’ve been in the prem ffs.

              I was wondering why we were pursuing such a young player who we definitely would not have seen for several months when our defensive shortcomings are there for all to see. Threadbare and prone to numerous errors yet neither seem to have been addressed ?[/quote]

              We persued him now as if we didn’t he would gone elsewhere, so we tried to sign him before another ‘Big’ club did, which would then leave us with no chance of ever being able to persue him again (I know he signed for Everton anyway but that’s not the point). So we treid to get hold of him when we had the chance, and fair play to the club for doing so. It seems as though we were unlucky.

              Also he may have featured this season, he is 18 I know but weirder things have happened than an 18 year old playing in the Prem. B)[/quote]

              I suspect you know full well what I meant by not seeing him for several months because RM does not like throwing kids in at the deep end and he has quoted that ! We needed to shore up the defence now and I know what you mean re one for the future but our future in the Prem is at stake here and so an immediate fix was needed in my opinion. Scharner is RM’s answer and so we must respect that I guess but I have my reservations ! The fat lad out on the left wing concerns me ! ;)[/quote]

              To be fair to Latics part in this whole Stones deal, I have read in numerous places for a couple of months that Everton were monitoring him.
              If Latics did know the price Barnsley were after & if they had gone in at that price straight away (which I doubt a club ever does) then I think that Everton would have stepped in at that point anyway.
              They quite clearly wanted him (probably with a long term plan in mind) & Latics having a bid accepted forced their hand when they may have been prepared to wait until the summer
              It wasn’t Latics that released news of the bid being accepted but Barnsley I suspect in the knowledge that they knew other club’s were waiting in the wings & hopefully of getting a higher price or more up front etc..

              Only my suspicions but I don’t think Latics/Bobby/Whelan/Jonathan Jackson did anythign wrong here

              #102215
              thty5yearswafctrevor hoy
              Player

                He would have been a wigan player now if the toffee’s had not of pulled out of this deal due to a players medical imo of course

                Everton have decided to end their interest in FC Twente midfielder Leroy Fer.

                The Toffees announced yesterday that they had agreed a fee with their Dutch counterparts for the 23-year-old.

                However, reports over the last few hours had claimed that the deal was being held up because the Everton medical staff were concerned with a knee problem that had shown up on Fer’s medical tests.

                Despite attempts to renegotiate a fee with Twente which would have been based upon appearances, the Premier League outfit have now opted to pull out of the deal.

                “It’s a real shame. We were really excited about the prospect of Leroy Fer coming to Goodison,” the club’s chief executive Robert Elstone told Sky Sports News. “We thought only 24 hours ago that we had a very talented Dutch international coming here.

                “The transfer didn’t go smoothly in the end and there were some issues. As our fans would expect, we have to put the club first. Our track record shows that we do that very well.

                “Unfortunately it didn’t work out and that is because we have to be very careful about where we spend our money.”

                Elstone went on to confirm that the club have now turned their attention to “alternative options”.

                #102219
                filmossfilmoss
                Player
                  He would have been a wigan player now if the toffee’s had not of pulled out of this deal due to a players medical imo of course

                  Everton have decided to end their interest in FC Twente midfielder Leroy Fer.

                  The Toffees announced yesterday that they had agreed a fee with their Dutch counterparts for the 23-year-old.

                  However, reports over the last few hours had claimed that the deal was being held up because the Everton medical staff were concerned with a knee problem that had shown up on Fer’s medical tests.

                  Despite attempts to renegotiate a fee with Twente which would have been based upon appearances, the Premier League outfit have now opted to pull out of the deal.

                  “It’s a real shame. We were really excited about the prospect of Leroy Fer coming to Goodison,” the club’s chief executive Robert Elstone told Sky Sports News. “We thought only 24 hours ago that we had a very talented Dutch international coming here.

                  “The transfer didn’t go smoothly in the end and there were some issues. As our fans would expect, we have to put the club first. Our track record shows that we do that very well.

                  “Unfortunately it didn’t work out and that is because we have to be very careful about where we spend our money.”

                  Elstone went on to confirm that the club have now turned their attention to “alternative options”.

                  Fer enough ! :P ( Second use of this joke but slightly different this time ! )

                  #102220
                  Anonymous
                    He would have been a wigan player now if the toffee’s had not of pulled out of this deal due to a players medical imo of course

                    Everton have decided to end their interest in FC Twente midfielder Leroy Fer.

                    The Toffees announced yesterday that they had agreed a fee with their Dutch counterparts for the 23-year-old.

                    However, reports over the last few hours had claimed that the deal was being held up because the Everton medical staff were concerned with a knee problem that had shown up on Fer’s medical tests.

                    Despite attempts to renegotiate a fee with Twente which would have been based upon appearances, the Premier League outfit have now opted to pull out of the deal.

                    “It’s a real shame. We were really excited about the prospect of Leroy Fer coming to Goodison,” the club’s chief executive Robert Elstone told Sky Sports News. “We thought only 24 hours ago that we had a very talented Dutch international coming here.

                    “The transfer didn’t go smoothly in the end and there were some issues. As our fans would expect, we have to put the club first. Our track record shows that we do that very well.

                    “Unfortunately it didn’t work out and that is because we have to be very careful about where we spend our money.”

                    Elstone went on to confirm that the club have now turned their attention to “alternative options”.

                    Really?

                    They play in completely different positions & are worlds apart in terms of what they offer to a team.

                    I don’t see why they’d say “We’ve missed out on this international standard holding midfielder.. so we’ll go for this young right back instead – same thing!”

                    My guess is they would’ve signed them both if they could.

                    #102221

                    He would have been a wigan player now if the toffee’s had not of pulled out of this deal due to a players medical imo of course

                    Everton have decided to end their interest in FC Twente midfielder Leroy Fer.

                    The Toffees announced yesterday that they had agreed a fee with their Dutch counterparts for the 23-year-old.

                    However, reports over the last few hours had claimed that the deal was being held up because the Everton medical staff were concerned with a knee problem that had shown up on Fer’s medical tests.

                    Despite attempts to renegotiate a fee with Twente which would have been based upon appearances, the Premier League outfit have now opted to pull out of the deal.

                    “It’s a real shame. We were really excited about the prospect of Leroy Fer coming to Goodison,” the club’s chief executive Robert Elstone told Sky Sports News. “We thought only 24 hours ago that we had a very talented Dutch international coming here.

                    “The transfer didn’t go smoothly in the end and there were some issues. As our fans would expect, we have to put the club first. Our track record shows that we do that very well.

                    “Unfortunately it didn’t work out and that is because we have to be very careful about where we spend our money.”

                    Elstone went on to confirm that the club have now turned their attention to “alternative options”.

                    Really?

                    They play in completely different positions & are worlds apart in terms of what they offer to a team.

                    I don’t see why they’d say “We’ve missed out on this international standard holding midfielder.. so we’ll go for this young right back instead – same thing!”

                    My guess is they would’ve signed them both if they could.[/quote]

                    Agreed

                    #102222
                    thty5yearswafctrevor hoy
                    Player

                      Really did you read all of it “The club have turned there attention to differant options” bit

                      #102223
                      Anonymous
                        Really did you read all of it “The club have turned there attention to differant options” bit

                        So you know for a fact that:

                        a) They WEREN’T lining up both Stones & Fer

                        b) When the Fer deal fell through, they did turn to different options but couldn’t get a deal done for the right player

                        I had no idea you worked at Everton.

                        #102228
                        jamescJamesC
                        Player

                          He would have been a wigan player now if the toffee’s had not of pulled out of this deal due to a players medical imo of course

                          Everton have decided to end their interest in FC Twente midfielder Leroy Fer.

                          The Toffees announced yesterday that they had agreed a fee with their Dutch counterparts for the 23-year-old.

                          However, reports over the last few hours had claimed that the deal was being held up because the Everton medical staff were concerned with a knee problem that had shown up on Fer’s medical tests.

                          Despite attempts to renegotiate a fee with Twente which would have been based upon appearances, the Premier League outfit have now opted to pull out of the deal.

                          “It’s a real shame. We were really excited about the prospect of Leroy Fer coming to Goodison,” the club’s chief executive Robert Elstone told Sky Sports News. “We thought only 24 hours ago that we had a very talented Dutch international coming here.

                          “The transfer didn’t go smoothly in the end and there were some issues. As our fans would expect, we have to put the club first. Our track record shows that we do that very well.

                          “Unfortunately it didn’t work out and that is because we have to be very careful about where we spend our money.”

                          Elstone went on to confirm that the club have now turned their attention to “alternative options”.

                          Really?

                          They play in completely different positions & are worlds apart in terms of what they offer to a team.

                          I don’t see why they’d say “We’ve missed out on this international standard holding midfielder.. so we’ll go for this young right back instead – same thing!”

                          My guess is they would’ve signed them both if they could.[/quote]

                          Agreed[/quote]

                          Doubly agreed.

                          #102231
                          Anonymous

                            The only way stones would have come to Wigan would have been if Everton decided to pulled out of the deal, just face the facts and get on.9 times out of 10 we will always be done by the bigger clubs if they show interest for the lesser/up and coming type players.

                            If you would have asked me Monday :-

                            Scharner or Stones ?,,

                            it’s a no brainer even though he is abit potty and dresses like he’s off to a tramps reunion (facebook pic of him in Asda).

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