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6 May 2010 at 2:29 am #32090
I’ll try to explain what I think happened – and why the decisions made were not that bad.
Quite a few on this thread have said the “invasion” was a bit of fun, just celebrating, nothing at all etc etc.
That may have been your intention – but not everyone sees it like that. It would only have taken a few Hull fans to consider it provocative, taking the piss, showing we think we’re better than they are or whatever.
You must have seen some of them as they were leaving the ground. They aren’t jolly chaps waving a fond farewell to the Premiership – some are as up for trouble as some of ours are. Remember Stoke? Remember Northampton? Not to mention Millwall of course.
If they had decided to come on the pitch too then there would have been some, what papers call, “ugly scenes”. If there had then I trust you grown-ups would have accepted your responsibilities in leading youngsters into such a situation. Poeple (some young) would have been injured, the FA would have had an inquiry – and being Wigan and not a “big club” we could have been made an example of and had points deducted if it was serious enough.
So the match controller has a decision to make. Does he put lines of stewards along each stand – spreading the resource thinly, which as we know can then be broken through.
Or does he ensure that the two sets of fans are kept well apart, by doubling up on the North Stand – one line to keep them in, one to keep ours out. And it worked.
And maybe, just maybe, he hoped that our more mature supporters would have influenced the younger elements to stay off the pitch until the end. Unfortunately in that he was wrong. He couldn’t have foreseen that we would score in the last minute. He probably was prepared to accept (reluctantly) that the crowd would come on at the end – but not before. That is what was wrong.
6 May 2010 at 3:06 am #32094I’ll try to explain what I think happened – and why the decisions made were not that bad.Quite a few on this thread have said the “invasion” was a bit of fun, just celebrating, nothing at all etc etc.
That may have been your intention – but not everyone sees it like that. It would only have taken a few Hull fans to consider it provocative, taking the yellow water, showing we think we’re better than they are or whatever.
You must have seen some of them as they were leaving the ground. They aren’t jolly chaps waving a fond farewell to the Premiership – some are as up for trouble as some of ours are. Remember Stoke? Remember Northampton? Not to mention Millwall of course.
If they had decided to come on the pitch too then there would have been some, what papers call, “ugly scenes”. If there had then I trust you grown-ups would have accepted your responsibilities in leading youngsters into such a situation. Poeple (some young) would have been injured, the FA would have had an inquiry – and being Wigan and not a “big club” we could have been made an example of and had points deducted if it was serious enough.
So the match controller has a decision to make. Does he put lines of stewards along each stand – spreading the resource thinly, which as we know can then be broken through.
Or does he ensure that the two sets of fans are kept well apart, by doubling up on the North Stand – one line to keep them in, one to keep ours out. And it worked.
And maybe, just maybe, he hoped that our more mature supporters would have influenced the younger elements to stay off the pitch until the end. Unfortunately in that he was wrong. He couldn’t have foreseen that we would score in the last minute. He probably was prepared to accept (reluctantly) that the crowd would come on at the end – but not before. That is what was wrong.
And supposing someone had a knife (Copyright Sky Sports)
6 May 2010 at 3:47 am #32097Interesting perspective, but I can’t recall our fans invading the pitch at any other time in the prem. I think the last one was Reading. The stewards have been able to control the home fans on every occasion since then so why not on Sunday? From where I sit in ES3, I’ve seen every season at the last home game people make their way down to the front chanting “on the pitch”, but they haven’t gone on as they’ve been kept back.
I don’t think the Hull match was a particular flashpoint – emotions weren’t exactly running high for a team all but mathematically down. They might have their fair share of idiots, but no more than any other side. I just think that someone made an on the spot decision to have a show of steward strength for an away support celebrating what appeared to be their last away win in this league and that our goal caught them napping.
When I think back to last season and someones decision to let the Man U fans over run the West stand at the end, nothing surprises me anymore.
6 May 2010 at 11:43 pm #32226I’ve no problem with people running on the pitch……..just as longa s it’s at the end of the game, and we’ve actually got something to celebrate and get excited about!That, on Monday, was just a bunch of little Chav’s who were doing it because they’re not supposed to do it.
My first thought was, “sh*t! We’ll be alright if they punish us by docking us points!”
It was absolutely pathetic.
I’m glad the supporters who stayed in there seats booed the fans on the pitch.
6 May 2010 at 11:46 pm #32227Interesting perspective, but I can’t recall our fans invading the pitch at any other time in the prem. I think the last one was Reading. The stewards have been able to control the home fans on every occasion since then so why not on Sunday? From where I sit in ES3, I’ve seen every season at the last home game people make their way down to the front chanting “on the pitch”, but they haven’t gone on as they’ve been kept back.I don’t think the Hull match was a particular flashpoint – emotions weren’t exactly running high for a team all but mathematically down. They might have their fair share of idiots, but no more than any other side. I just think that someone made an on the spot decision to have a show of steward strength for an away support celebrating what appeared to be their last away win in this league and that our goal caught them napping.
When I think back to last season and someones decision to let the Man U fans over run the West stand at the end, nothing surprises me anymore.
Anyone remember Crewe in pre-season 09/10 about 300 fans stayed for 10 mins shouting on the pitch .. nothing happened.
6 May 2010 at 11:55 pm #32228I’ll try to explain what I think happened – and why the decisions made were not that bad.Quite a few on this thread have said the “invasion” was a bit of fun, just celebrating, nothing at all etc etc.
That may have been your intention – but not everyone sees it like that. It would only have taken a few Hull fans to consider it provocative, taking the yellow water, showing we think we’re better than they are or whatever.
You must have seen some of them as they were leaving the ground. They aren’t jolly chaps waving a fond farewell to the Premiership – some are as up for trouble as some of ours are. Remember Stoke? Remember Northampton? Not to mention Millwall of course.
If they had decided to come on the pitch too then there would have been some, what papers call, “ugly scenes”. If there had then I trust you grown-ups would have accepted your responsibilities in leading youngsters into such a situation. Poeple (some young) would have been injured, the FA would have had an inquiry – and being Wigan and not a “big club” we could have been made an example of and had points deducted if it was serious enough.
So the match controller has a decision to make. Does he put lines of stewards along each stand – spreading the resource thinly, which as we know can then be broken through.
Or does he ensure that the two sets of fans are kept well apart, by doubling up on the North Stand – one line to keep them in, one to keep ours out. And it worked.
And maybe, just maybe, he hoped that our more mature supporters would have influenced the younger elements to stay off the pitch until the end. Unfortunately in that he was wrong. He couldn’t have foreseen that we would score in the last minute. He probably was prepared to accept (reluctantly) that the crowd would come on at the end – but not before. That is what was wrong.
I agree. With a few mins to go I thought why the hell are there no stewards near the raving nutters in ES2. Just because supporters were asked to keep off the pitch at half time doesn’t solve the problem. The safety officer got it wrong.
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7 May 2010 at 3:26 am #32291On to the pitch invasion.
It looked pathetic and we could get in trouble for it. What will save us from that I think is that we didn’t goad the Hull fans like the Luton/Sheff Wed fans.
I seem to recall a threat from the FA/FL years ago that if we continued to pitch invade we would be fined or docked pts. (think there had been an invasion three or four times that season for one reason or another)
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