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No i don’t think latics would have got such leniency but its not Rooney’s fault that the ref’s are running scared of the power wielded by the big clubs & their manager’s & the fact that they have a big say in whether a ref gets appointed to their games
gerard got off with a (IMO) far worse elbow smash in someone’s face earlier this season but there was nowt similar on here about it
probly cause gerrards wasn’t against us!
Which kind of proves my point that if latics players or players in games that don’t involve Latics do it then its neither here nor there. If however someone does it against Latics then all the footballing world should vilify them
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Apologies…in the sober light of day your post is less anti-Wigan than it seemed last night after a couple of hours at the boozer.
Anyway, as I said in my post, Rooney should not be vilified, as a lot of footballers have done similar, and will do similar in the future. My point is, he should have been punished as what he did was done in pure malice, and could have caused serious damage, and it cannot be compared to what N’Zogbia did.
N’Zogbia’s sending off was a face to face confrontation, with no intent whatsoever to cause injury.
Yes Roberts used his elbows quite often, as do a lot of players, and he was penalised accordingly. Roberts however, did not hit someone on the side of the head whilst running past the player. A flailing arm when fending an opponent off the ball is worlds apart from leaping into someone with the sole intention of hitting them in the face – especially when that opposition player is off guard.
Rooney was not fending McCarthy off, nor was it a confrontation between the two players. Rooney’s sole intend was to cause injury, regardless of the fact that it merely left McCarthy with a sore ear.
Had McCarthy stepped more to his left, or had Rooney been moving with more pace, it could easily have resulted in the fracture of a cheek, a jaw or an eye socket.
I think we’re both coming to the same conclusions (i.e. that Rooney should have been sent off at the time & that having not been sent off then some action should now be taken against him) but via slightly different routes
I also acknowledge that N’Zogbia’s “headbutt” was less severe than Rooney’s elbow (even my wife said she’d have been embarrassed to hit the deck like Wilshire did after that contact!!) but you do use alot of if’s in your argument – “if” McCarthy had stepped over a bit more, “if” rooney had been running faster.
By the same token “if” Wilshire had stepped closer to N’Zogbia & with a bit more speed in his step he could have seriously damaged one of his eyelashes!!As for Roberts he may not have hit someone as he ran past them but some of his elbows were quite nasty & sly & he didn’t always get caught & punished for them – one in particular he did away at West Ham i think was a shocker
Bottom line with the premiership is that it is a commercial entity, they need to sell the product, whilst very rarely worrying about ethics or fair play. Wigan are a blot on the landscape that has been taken by Blackpool, Sjoke etc over recent years. But Like Hull when we go down we will be forgotten about.What an excellent first paragraph, in a nutshell.
Bottom line with the premiership is that it is a commercial entity, they need to sell the product, whilst very rarely worrying about ethics or fair play. Wigan are a blot on the landscape that has been taken by Blackpool, Sjoke etc over recent years. But Like Hull when we go down we will be forgotten about.
What an excellent first paragraph, in a nutshell.[/quote]
I can add to that by what a journalist said on Sky when asked about Rooney, and why no action was taken. His answer was, I believe, him being totally honest and straightforward.
He said something like “I believe it has as much to do with the live televised games that are coming up, ( V Chelsea tonight, and Liverpool on Sunday) and the fact that if Rooney was missing from those games, it would detract from the spectacle”.So, no action has been taken, because it will affect the so called ‘quality of viewing’ of SKY subscribers.
The journo was being serious, and maybe he’s right. How much influence do SKY bloody have at all?
The Premier League is getting like American Wrestling.
Sky have a very tight hold on the PL’s cockles, they mutually benefit each other financially. The only reason the PL was set up was so that the top teams in the First Division could profit from a big TV rights deal, from Sky.
It’s bugged me for years that the PL operates separately from the Football League, and in some respects the FA. It’s becoming more and more corrupt in my eyes, and I’m really starting to despise Sky Sports, and bSkyB/NewsCorp on the whole. What sort of competition is there when your best players can get plucked every single season from oil-rich, global franchises for silly money, leaving you to wonder who on Earth you could attract to your club regardless of how much money you can waft under their nose.
The instant that Man Utd get taken over by an Arab consortium (rumours abound in the past) then that’ll be it: I’ll want us out of the damn thing if we’re still in it, because it’ll just descend into even more of a farce.
The only way it could remedy itself would be if the “big four” and Man City leave the PL to form some sort of permanent Champions League with the top five teams from Spain, Italy and Germany. There’d be a much more even playing field for everybody.
If anyone ever starts a campaign to get the so-called big clubs into a Euro league, my name will be right at the top. The sooner we get rid of the greedy barstewards and return to some sort of normality and more even playing field the better.
The corruption in the game I’ve followed for nearly half a century gets worse day by day and will never change for the better with the present structure. It’s only a matter of time before they try to reduce the size of the league yet again until they get to their 10 team ideal.
well there you have it,just goes to show how corrupt the f.a and the premier league are,i wonder if it had been barton,bowyer would the out come have been the same. You see players who jump to win headers but use there arms to jump higher get sent off but rooney did it with full intent gets away with it,the f.a bang on about racism,respect and fair play in the game well i am sorry but by refusing to do anything about this goes against everything they are trying to promote:text-goodpost: It shows what a laughing stock the f.a. and the premier league are whats next Tesco soccer skills learn how to elbow and get away with it,first ten kids to do it get free macdonalds meals, for a week. :angry-banghead: :angry-boxing:
Bottom line with the premiership is that it is a commercial entity, they need to sell the product, whilst very rarely worrying about ethics or fair play. Wigan are a blot on the landscape that has been taken by Blackpool, Sjoke etc over recent years. But Like Hull when we go down we will be forgotten about.
What an excellent first paragraph, in a nutshell.[/quote]
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Bottom line with the premiership is that it is a commercial entity, they need to sell the product, whilst very rarely worrying about ethics or fair play. Wigan are a blot on the landscape that has been taken by Blackpool, Sjoke etc over recent years. But Like Hull when we go down we will be forgotten about.
What an excellent first paragraph, in a nutshell.[/quote]
I can add to that by what a journalist said on Sky when asked about Rooney, and why no action was taken. His answer was, I believe, him being totally honest and straightforward.
He said something like “I believe it has as much to do with the live televised games that are coming up, ( V Chelsea tonight, and Liverpool on Sunday) and the fact that if Rooney was missing from those games, it would detract from the spectacle”.So, no action has been taken, because it will affect the so called ‘quality of viewing’ of SKY subscribers.
The journo was being serious, and maybe he’s right. How much influence do SKY bloody have at all?
The Premier League is getting like American Wrestling.[/quote]
The whole sky thing worries me when it comes to goal line technology and instant replays. How can we even think of having instant replay on decisions when the pictures are controlled by sky, imagine the influence they would have on games!
EdinburghLatic wrote:
Bottom line with the premiership is that it is a commercial entity, they need to sell the product, whilst very rarely worrying about ethics or fair play. Wigan are a blot on the landscape that has been taken by Blackpool, Sjoke etc over recent years. But Like Hull when we go down we will be forgotten about.RetiredFan wrote:
What an excellent first paragraph, in a nutshell.I’m delighted to say Wigan still has many “pure” fans who can see the wood through the tree’s, just look at the rest! One of Edinburgh’s reasons above stopped me going after the first season in the Premiership and I’ve never, ever looked back.
What I have found are more complaints and “missing souls”, all stemming from my reasoning for giving up on football. The problem is people keep going in a sort of blind faith like their clubs care for them for going, which is quite the opposite.
The Premiership is a freak show where referee’s are involved. How many of us heard of a Chief Exec 10 years ago? When there’s so much money around big stadiums get built to maximise profits, football has become this and I liken it to American Football, just not a bigger scale. All the stadia look the same and have no shred of character about them, the DW is one of the worst “Modern” stadiums I have entered along with Stoke (albeit slightly older).
Football was for the working man to go at the weekend and “hope” for a victory, entertain themselves where possible in a content lifestyle. Nowadays people are baying for blood to get a result and quite happily see their own players dive to get that result.
This for me is out and out cheating, corruption whatever you may call it. Everyone’s involved in the bigger picture so I had my own private disagreement with the game and how its ran and stopped going.
Never looked back since. I could never stop caring for Wigan Athletic and especially those fans who I regard as “real supporters” who know what they’re talking about. It has it;s fair share of blinded idiots also who generally are noticable by their appearance of the last few seasons of top flight success.
EdinburghLatic wrote:
Bottom line with the premiership is that it is a commercial entity, they need to sell the product, whilst very rarely worrying about ethics or fair play. Wigan are a blot on the landscape that has been taken by Blackpool, Sjoke etc over recent years. But Like Hull when we go down we will be forgotten about.RetiredFan wrote:
What an excellent first paragraph, in a nutshell.I’m delighted to say Wigan still has many “pure” fans who can see the wood through the tree’s, just look at the rest! One of Edinburgh’s reasons above stopped me going after the first season in the Premiership and I’ve never, ever looked back.
What I have found are more complaints and “missing souls”, all stemming from my reasoning for giving up on football. The problem is people keep going in a sort of blind faith like their clubs care for them for going, which is quite the opposite.
The Premiership is a freak show where referee’s are involved. How many of us heard of a Chief Exec 10 years ago? When there’s so much money around big stadiums get built to maximise profits, football has become this and I liken it to American Football, just not a bigger scale. All the stadia look the same and have no shred of character about them, the DW is one of the worst “Modern” stadiums I have entered along with Stoke (albeit slightly older).
Football was for the working man to go at the weekend and “hope” for a victory, entertain themselves where possible in a content lifestyle. Nowadays people are baying for blood to get a result and quite happily see their own players dive to get that result.
This for me is out and out cheating, corruption whatever you may call it. Everyone’s involved in the bigger picture so I had my own private disagreement with the game and how its ran and stopped going.
Never looked back since. I could never stop caring for Wigan Athletic and especially those fans who I regard as “real supporters” who know what they’re talking about. It has it;s fair share of blinded idiots also who generally are noticable by their appearance of the last few seasons of top flight success.
So if we go down will you start going on again ?
EdinburghLatic wrote:
Bottom line with the premiership is that it is a commercial entity, they need to sell the product, whilst very rarely worrying about ethics or fair play. Wigan are a blot on the landscape that has been taken by Blackpool, Sjoke etc over recent years. But Like Hull when we go down we will be forgotten about.RetiredFan wrote:
What an excellent first paragraph, in a nutshell.I’m delighted to say Wigan still has many “pure” fans who can see the wood through the tree’s, just look at the rest! One of Edinburgh’s reasons above stopped me going after the first season in the Premiership and I’ve never, ever looked back.
What I have found are more complaints and “missing souls”, all stemming from my reasoning for giving up on football. The problem is people keep going in a sort of blind faith like their clubs care for them for going, which is quite the opposite.
The Premiership is a freak show where referee’s are involved. How many of us heard of a Chief Exec 10 years ago? When there’s so much money around big stadiums get built to maximise profits, football has become this and I liken it to American Football, just not a bigger scale. All the stadia look the same and have no shred of character about them, the DW is one of the worst “Modern” stadiums I have entered along with Stoke (albeit slightly older).
Football was for the working man to go at the weekend and “hope” for a victory, entertain themselves where possible in a content lifestyle. Nowadays people are baying for blood to get a result and quite happily see their own players dive to get that result.
This for me is out and out cheating, corruption whatever you may call it. Everyone’s involved in the bigger picture so I had my own private disagreement with the game and how its ran and stopped going.
Never looked back since. I could never stop caring for Wigan Athletic and especially those fans who I regard as “real supporters” who know what they’re talking about. It has it;s fair share of blinded idiots also who generally are noticable by their appearance of the last few seasons of top flight success.
So if we go down will you start going on a gain ?[/quote]
No.
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