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Go on then. Last 3 years. Give me some worse defeats than a 3-0 against Championship relegation fodder?
We may play like an average championship side but our best starting eleven should be more than a match for anyone in this league.
Fine, I’ll bite some more even though you’ve conveniently limited the “several years” time range to “a few years ” to avoid results such as the 9-1 vs Spurs.
Blackpool H: 4-0
Chelsea H: 6-0
Palace A: 2-1
Swindon A: 2-1
Wolves A: 3-1
SWANSEA H: 3-2 !!!
Zulte H: 2-1Don’t forget that all 3 bottom clubs won this weekend vs. tough opposition. This league is wide open – get used to it and enjoy it. :)
Go on then. Last 3 years. Give me some worse defeats than a 3-0 against Championship relegation fodder?
We may play like an average championship side but our best starting eleven should be more than a match for anyone in this league.
Fine, I’ll bite some more even though you’ve conveniently limited the “several years” time range to “a few years ” to avoid results such as the 9-1 vs Spurs.
Blackpool H: 4-0
Chelsea H: 6-0
Palace A: 2-1
Swindon A: 2-1
Wolves A: 3-1SWANSEA H: 3-2 !!!
Zulte H: 2-1Don’t forget that all 3 bottom clubs won this weekend vs. tough opposition. This league is wide open – get used to it and enjoy it. :)[/quote]
The defeat to derby at home should be on your list also….
Go on then. Last 3 years. Give me some worse defeats than a 3-0 against Championship relegation fodder?We may play like an average championship side but our best starting eleven should be more than a match for anyone in this league.
You do have a point; as for some of the ‘other defeats ””worse’ listed, well they’re laughable … we are after all talking about relativity.
Yes, our starting eleven should be a match for more or less all in this division … indeed, they have an off day ….both Utd. and Liverpool lost to the likes of newly-promoted Burnley and Blackpool in EPL in recent years …………
but surely, we shouldn’t be going for 3 without reply ?!Maynard – in from the off, I get (hard as that may be on Fortune), give the lad some game time against seemingly beatable, out-of-form opposition, in readiness for more difficult games ahead !!!
Unfortunately ….. (the rest as they say is history ..)
Maynard – in from the off, I get (hard as that may be on Fortune), give the lad some game time against seemingly beatable, out-of-form opposition, in readiness for more difficult games ahead !!!Unfortunately ….. (the rest as they say is history ..)
Let’s get two or three up with our first team, then bring on Maynard as a substitute.
Maynard – in from the off, I get (hard as that may be on Fortune), give the lad some game time against seemingly beatable, out-of-form opposition, in readiness for more difficult games ahead !!!
Unfortunately ….. (the rest as they say is history ..)
Let’s get two or three up with our first team, then bring on Maynard as a substitute.[/quote]
take your point (used to ay the same of Martinez when making 8-9 changes in the Cup competitions (e.g. Bradford, Bournemouth) – bring on the young ‘uns later.
But fact is we should still have had enough out there to do Rovers (Powell etc.). Secondly, a game AND goal under his belt would have done him the world of good ! Alas, not to be…
Maynard – in from the off, I get (hard as that may be on Fortune), give the lad some game time against seemingly beatable, out-of-form opposition, in readiness for more difficult games ahead !!!
Unfortunately ….. (the rest as they say is history ..)
Let’s get two or three up with our first team, then bring on Maynard as a substitute.[/quote]
take your point (used to ay the same of Martinez when making 8-9 changes in the Cup competitions (e.g. Bradford, Bournemouth) – bring on the young ‘uns later.
But fact is we should still have had enough out there to do Rovers (Powell etc.). Secondly, a game AND goal under his belt would have done him the world of good ! Alas, not to be…[/quote]
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8-9 changes …..fact is we should still have had enough out there to do Rovers
incidentally, thought Browning, Everton, had made his debut the prior week (Bournemouth) ?
aughable…we are after all talking about relativityErr what’s not relative about Blackpool, Swansea and Wolves – and even Chelsea given the timing of that game? As for the 2 cup defeats well folk on here weren’t thinking they were laughable at the time. And Zulte – we’ll if you step back and look at the bigger 80 year Latics picture then yes that was worse than losing to Donny.
I was also going to list Derby as Jimmy mentioned, tho as it was around the time they were hitting form I decided not to.
We have no right to be beating any other team in this division, esp. not “Ch’ship relegation fodder”. Not sure if you remember but we were Prem relegation fodder not that long ago – did we not have any right then to beat some of the big teams we did a couple of seasons ago??
Not professing to be the “Bertie big bollox” team that others teams/fans think they are has always set us aside from the Leeds, West Hams, etc of this world. Hope that isn’t changing??
Ill give you Blackpool at home. How you can compare Palace, swindon and Wolves (all teams who have played top flight football recently) is beyond me. Swansea were seen last season as one of the best teams in the country on their day, Chelsea with a team worth 300 million and premiership champions then Zulte who finished second in the Belgian league to Anderlecht. That performance on Saturday was pathetic. Did you actually go?
That performance on Saturday was pathetic. Did you actually go?Hold on, you’re moving the goalposts again. Are you talking about the result or the performance?
I never questioned the performance and I agreed with most of your post. And although I wasn’t there, I heard and read enough from trusted friends and online commentary/reports to know we played badly.
But that doesn’t mean it was the worst result in several years. And just because the calibre of the other teams/competitions I’ve cited are better/worse than what we’re debating, that doesn’t mean those results were less worse.
How can you say that losing 3-0 to Donny away was a worse RESULT than losing 3-2 to Swansea when we were 2-0 up and blew any last hopes of survival, or losing to Zulte when we were 1-0 up and blew our chances of progressing in Europe?Some performances are bad, leading to bad results.
Some games are critical. A loss can have dire consequences, even if the performance may have been quite good.
So youre basing your opinion on hearsay and journalists. So losing 3-0 to Doncaster is a better result than losing by the odd goal to a team that has recently beaten Valencia on their own pitch and a team who finished second in Belgium. I give up! Believe me as a bloke who was at all 3. This was a bloody awful performance/result and am sure others who attended the aforementioned games will testify.
So youre basing your opinion on hearsay and journalists. So losing 3-0 to Doncaster is a better result than losing by the odd goal to a team that has recently beaten Valencia on their own pitch and a team who finished second in Belgium. I give up! Believe me as a bloke who was at all 3. This was a bloody awful performance/result and am sure others who attended the aforementioned games will testify.I don’t think anyone is disputing that it is a poor result and, judging by what I heard on the radio, it was a poor performance too. To say that losing 3-0 to Doncaster Rovers is one of our worst results in several years is a) disrespectful to Doncaster because, as I think someone has already pointed out, we have no God-given right to be beating “teams like” Doncaster and b) it does smak of a little bit of an over-reaction.
And to be fair, it doesn’t sound like your normal reaction which is usually a bit more measured. In fact, it’s the sort of over-hyped comment I’d expect LeylandLatic4BrainCells to come out with rather than you.
No over reaction on my part. Simply stating the facts as I see them. Losing to a bottom 3 championship side 3-0 is undoubtedly one of the worst results in the last few years. I doubt you were there either. For those of us that watched 95 mins of that shite after paying 50 quid im sure you would agree we are welcome to our opinion.
No over reaction on my part. Simply stating the facts as I see them. Losing to a bottom 3 championship side 3-0 is undoubtedly one of the worst results in the last few years. I doubt you were there either. For those of us that watched 95 mins of that shite after paying 50 quid im sure you would agree we are welcome to our opinion.Nobody said you weren’t entitled to your opinion. But how can “undoutedly one of the worst results” be a fact? It’s your opinion, no more, no less. Don’t get all snippy if poeple don’t agree with you.
I can understand why you are disappointed – not like a Wiganer to equate it all back to spending money again, though is it? – but I’d suggest you are actually over-reacting. But, it’s only my opinion.
And no, I wasn’t there. Which part of “judging by what I heard on the radio” was a bit too difficult for you to grasp? Not that me being there or not has anything to do with the argument. Or are you only allowed to comment if you are a Super-fan and pay £50 to go and watch? That must have been some proper posh seat you were in for £50.
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