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Yes, that is part of the picture.
But perhaps Leicester players are tired too. Leicester have obviously had a settled team. And I think that it is easier to play in a winning team!
They have presumably suffered fewer injuries and fewer radical team changes. Perhaps their players are better than ours, fitter than ours and better managed than ours.
Macca on the bench and Maynard starting, team selection for me. When Macca came on and Fortune we looked abit more threatening.And I feckin hate it when “tired” is pointed towards a bad loss. They should thank their lucky stars they aint getting up at 5 doing a 12 hr shift , 6 days a week on the roads,
3 hr’s a day 1/2 million pound a year min , tired my harse !!! I’d have jogged home from donny for that .
Football comes down to fine margins as there isn’t a great deal of difference between the fitness of one player to another. So, if you have any sort of fatigue going into a game and your opposing player hasn’t, he’ll probably have the edge over you.
When I say fatigue, I don’t mean he’s yawing, can’t get out of bed, I mean he’s playing at 90% when the player he’s up against is at 100%.
So those who go an about ‘he should try working a twelve hour shift blah blah blah’ can only really compare it if their twelve hour shift involves them competing in a physical activity directly against someone else who hasn’t been working for twelve hours.
So yes, let’s make these overpaid pansies get up at five and train all day, every day, then turn them out against a team who hasn’t done this and see what the results are.
Yes, that is part of the picture.But perhaps Leicester players are tired too. Leicester have obviously had a settled team. And I think that it is easier to play in a winning team!
They have presumably suffered fewer injuries and fewer radical team changes. Perhaps their players are better than ours, fitter than ours and better managed than ours.
They’ve also had less travelling to do and after Rosler’s comments regarding the state of the squad left by Coyle, they are probably fitter too.
They’ve also had less travelling to doYour previous post I agree with & your comment in the second one about the squad’s fitness but it’s clutching at straws a bit to say that a 2 day trip to Slovenia over a month ago is having any bearing on their performances now. Or for that matter one to Russia 2 months ago. And as for one back in September which they were (probably) flown to & from in less time than a fixture to Bournemouth travelling on the coach :blink: :blink:
As for why Saturday’s performance was so poor – in all honesty it was probably a bit of all 3 plus possibly underestimating Doncaster & them playing well.
I did think it was refreshing after the poor performance in the first MK Dons game that Rosler specifically said it had nowt to do with the hectic fixture schedule so I was a bit disappointed to hear him blame it on exactly that just 2 weeks (& 3 games later).
That probably indicates to me that he knows he got a few things wrong but then again I’d never expect to hear any manager say in the aftermath of a game for example that he picked some of the wrong players in the wrong positions & in the wrong systemcant see it having anything to do with fitness game against doncaster,more of uwe experimenting finding out which players can play in certain positions if needed
he has been given a 18month contract to get us back into the prem
and as to decide who is and is not good enough for the job at hand,thats why players where out of position
but in certain positions ie center backs with three out injured he had no choice
but its sad to see a football player who cant cope with 3 hours a week on the pitch due to lack of fitness if thats the case
so expect uwe to carry on experimenting this season and one or two stars set to depart might be another deadline day shocker to upset the fans late on deadline dayThey’ve also had less travelling to do
Your previous post I agree with & your comment in the second one about the squad’s fitness but it’s clutching at straws a bit to say that a 2 day trip to Slovenia over a month ago is having any bearing on their performances now. Or for that matter one to Russia 2 months ago. And as for one back in September which they were (probably) flown to & from in less time than a fixture to Bournemouth travelling on the coach :blink: :blink:
As for why Saturday’s performance was so poor – in all honesty it was probably a bit of all 3 plus possibly underestimating Doncaster & them playing well.
I did think it was refreshing after the poor performance in the first MK Dons game that Rosler specifically said it had nowt to do with the hectic fixture schedule so I was a bit disappointed to hear him blame it on exactly that just 2 weeks (& 3 games later).
That probably indicates to me that he knows he got a few things wrong but then again I’d never expect to hear any manager say in the aftermath of a game for example that he picked some of the wrong players in the wrong positions & in the wrong system[/quote]But it isn’t just a matter of a couple of hours on a plane.
A two hour flight, from training ground to team hotel turns into a five hour hassle. Then there’s the arrival back into the UK late at night/ in the early hours, and the disruption it causes to training schedules and routines.
Add the trip to Maribor to a busy December and January – where there’s a game every four-and-a-half days, and of course it’ll take its toll.
It’s not a stand-alone excuse as to why they may be more tired than players from another team, but it’s certainly an important contributing factor, and you only need to look at the generally poor domestic seasons of smaller clubs who have had a stint in Europe.
Playing in Europe is like having an extra three midweek cup games in Bournemouth.
Rosler may have picked the team poorly, but he may have had to pick that team because some his players looked jaded in training during the week – who knows?
Whatever the reason, he doesn’t seem the type of man to say fatigue was an issue if there wasn’t an element of truth in that.
cant see it having anything to do with fitness game against doncaster,more of uwe experimenting finding out which players can play in certain positions if needed
he has been given a 18month contract to get us back into the prem
and as to decide who is and is not good enough for the job at hand,thats why players where out of position
but in certain positions ie center backs with three out injured he had no choice
but its sad to see a football player who cant cope with 3 hours a week on the pitch due to lack of fitness if thats the case
so expect uwe to carry on experimenting this season and one or two stars set to depart might be another deadline day shocker to upset the fans late on deadline dayIt’s all relative bicky. I’m sure they’re all 1000% fitter than you, but if they’re playing at 90% against someone who’s playing at 100%, they come out 2nd best. That’s why they get dropped.
But it isn’t just a matter of a couple of hours on a plane.A two hour flight, from training ground to team hotel turns into a five hour hassle. Then there’s the arrival back into the UK late at night/ in the early hours, and the disruption it causes to training schedules and routines.
Add the trip to Maribor to a busy December and January – where there’s a game every four-and-a-half days, and of course it’ll take its toll.
It’s not a stand-alone excuse as to why they may be more tired than players from another team, but it’s certainly an important contributing factor, and you only need to look at the generally poor domestic seasons of smaller clubs who have had a stint in Europe.
Playing in Europe is like having an extra three midweek cup games in Bournemouth.
Rosler may have picked the team poorly, but he may have had to pick that team because some his players looked jaded in training during the week – who knows?
Whatever the reason, he doesn’t seem the type of man to say fatigue was an issue if there wasn’t an element of truth in that.
I’m not saying that it doesn’t effect (or is it affect? I never know!!) the immediate aftermath of the Europan away game but I can’t agree that a trip to Maribor in December, a trip to Kazan in November & a trip to Belgium in September had any effect on a performance in Doncaster in mid to late January. And I’m talking just in terms of the travelling as you mentioned it as a separate factor to the number of games
There are numerous factors why a smaller club may have less succesful domestic seasons when playing in Europe but I don’t think travel time is one other than for a game immediately afterwardsTrue, we don’t know why he picked the team that he did but I don’t see what’s changed from the MK Don’s original cup tie (after they’d played 4 games in 10 days) to the Doncaster league game (after they’d played 3.3 games in 14 days) including a week with no midweek fixture where they’d all been saying how that would enable them to recharge their batteries
In the last 70 days we have played 19 matches which is near enough 1 game every three and a half days so there could be a good argument for the tinkering and general rotation of the squadGoing back to this in the same 70 days Doncaster have played only 15 times
worst game.
At Bath v Bristol…got beat 6 nil or 6-1. late 80/early 90s.
Pissing down. some guys too drunk to get in.
Was a blessing as they didn’t have to see the game.
Very long trip back!
In the last 70 days we have played 19 matches which is near enough 1 game every three and a half days so there could be a good argument for the tinkering and general rotation of the squad
Going back to this in the same 70 days Doncaster have played only 15 times[/quote]
So some of our players may have played 6 hours more football in 10 weeks. They must be exhausted the poor little millionaires.
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