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The rotation of players is killing us as well. In out in out shake it all about Shaun. These players can’t form partnerships on the pitch. Every week it’s change after change rotation after rotation.
I don’t know about the shackles they wanna throw away those back f*ckin pack monitors and iPads. As soon as a player’s reaches an X amount of metres, heart rate their off.
We have 2 players right now keeping us afloat, Aasgaard scoring crucial goals and Tickle keeping them out with vital saves. Both for me will be gone soon. I honestly think Aasgaard will be gone in the Jan window and Tickle in the summer.
This will give Maloney a chance to look at the clubs bank account so he can then go out and bring in a couple of 20 year old loanees who’ve never played league football before.
I understand Danson’s predicament trying to balance the books, this ongoing self sufficient challenge he has with the club but….and a huge but….I hope that when we do eventually sell Aasgaard and Tickle he reinvests some of the money back into the squad.
Surely he can see this is how football teams operate, at some point you sell your best players for decent money, pay off bills etc then use some of the money on the squad to replace those who’ve left?.
I remember Whelan doing a similar thing when Martinez came in, his first and formost job was to cull the huge wage bill of the squad Bruce had accumulated.
One thing Whelan did that Danson’s so far not done (Hughes Lang) is, once the squad was wiped out he made funds available for Martinez to bring in certain players/targets. Ok it wasn’t a warchest but money was there. Back then we had the same problem, players on unsustainable weekly wages.
The proof in the pudding nowdays is what happens to the money when Aasgaard and Tickle join Hughes by leaving the club?. Will this go into running the club ?, the stadium rent ?, subsidise the womens team ?.
I know one thing, if we don’t make part of the sale funds available for the manager and he’s asked to find a few 12 month loanees were in trouble.
For a club who’s always strove to achieve, punch above our wieght and fought back numerous times from adversary we now resemble a boxer at the end of the 11th refusing to go out for the last because of the beating he’s took. He just sees it as he’s nothing more than a journey man, making up the numbers and all ambition has gone.
One more thing,
We have history, Prem, FA Cup, Europe, Carling Cup. Those who were there remember it fondly but chaps, next year that will have been 12 years plus ago
We’ve a new generation of kids coming through. Currently there is nothing to make them wanna go and plenty of old guard have given up and if their parents ain’t taking them were does the next lot of fans come from ?
That sums it up in a nutshell, Cup Winners
Our DNA goes way, way back and the one thing you could say about our club is that we have always been competitive and ambitious. In fact it is fair to say that we are the biggest “little” club in English football history; and that is a title to be proud of; just as much as the Mancs and yer Liverpools who love to boast about their cup & league triumphs.
Selected minutes from Fans Advisory Board …
DS – you’ve spoken about long term planning, is sustainable message contradicted by the amount
of loans we have to replace?
LD – most clubs in League 1 have 6 loan players. We want to be a Club where top teams send their
best young talent to be developed. Balance between youth and experience. Had success with
loans last season and that has enabled the club to attract players this year. We want Wigan to be a
hot bed location for young players to develop.So from the above extract mean we will be a hot bed location for other top teams young players to develop.. and not our own .. ?? In which case we become a company that offers a service in return for £££ to coach and develop other teams players, and the end of being a football club ..
This is exactly my point, look at Stones, we’ve Hugill who’s either injured or out of form and Taylor who’s not lit the side up both loanees while Stones is out on loan.
Kai Payne, there’s another, get him on the bench more often don’t loan out and give him minutes, in at the deep end I say he looks a good prospect.
Were simply developing others teams youth with the belief their 20 times better than our own and 9 times out of 10 their not. And the big problem is with loanees, we don’t make any money from developing other sides youth.
Hughes Tickle and Aasgaard are prime examples as to what can happen when you give the young lads a chance. If you put minutes and game time under their belts the can either massively improve or go the other way. That’s how you become self sustainable not a side full of loanees.
I’ve seen two loanees who I think they are v.v.g James and Chambers after that I really haven’t see anything that turns my head and that’s from dozens and dozens of loaned players.
Let’s face it, big clubs do not send their best youth to L1 they tend to go to the Championship so those at Latics need to give their heads a wobble if they think we’re cherry picking the best. These clubs are sending them out to the shop window.
Let’s say Taylor scored 15 – 20 you’d have a host of clubs eye balling him and I know one thing,we wouldn’t put the coin down , too tight.The reason why were littered with loans issued their cheap and a quick fix. I would like to know from these clever people how they intend to make us self sustainable if we sign average rejected players and loanees ?
What about our own ?,
We’ve gone to the dogs, it’s all about us who just keep painting over it in the hope that no one will know.Self sustainable ? What a p*ss take
Did you also notice Lucas Danson swerved the question? He never mentioned sustainability in his reply!
These men couldn’t run a bath never mind a football club, no sense whatsoever in what they are doing.
Fuck the EFL
My view with it all is,:-
When the Bahraini Binmen pulled the plug we were heading for administration. If this had of happened we’d have been sold with far less debt so I’m in no doubt someone would have took a chance which means owning and renegotiating rugby’s rent and Danson would have been a tenant at the mercy of new owners.
I’m sure the sheer thought of Danson “not” owning the stadium and paying rent would have p*ssed him off no end.
So in Danson steps, he pays more than he would if we were in admin 10p-20p in the pound but he faced no competition and the Bahraini Binmen are just glad to get rid.
Fast forward to today and we are no longer owners of the stadium. Then ask yourself this,
Why have we had very little investment even after the sale of a player? why do we still have a duel code CEO ?.I personally reckon he’s got what he wanted,
The stadium
Danson’s stripped us to the bare bones with little investment even after the sale of players. Our wage bill has smashed to oblivion and we now prefer loanees.
Why?, I’ll have anyone a bet Danson sells us in the next 12-18 months. He’s not interested. He’ll sell us then we’ll subsidise the daily running of the stadium in rent. Remember he’ll still own the rugby and stadium so he could potentially make any new owners of Latics basically cover the yearly running cost while the rugby pay pennies, he can then charge the rugby anything he wants.If he was interested in keeping us we’d have a CEO and Maloney would have the Hughes money to reinvest. For me he’s achieved his goal, by us get the ground.
If he’s our owner in 18 months I’ll show my arse at the top of Wigan, he clearly does not give a flying fook about Latics
My view with it all is,:-
When the Bahraini Binmen pulled the plug we were heading for administration. If this had of happened we’d have been sold with far less debt so I’m in no doubt someone would have took a chance which means owning and renegotiating rugby’s rent and Danson would have been a tenant at the mercy of new owners.
I’m sure the sheer thought of Danson “not” owning the stadium and paying rent would have p*ssed him off no end.
So in Danson steps, he pays more than he would if we were in admin 10p-20p in the pound but he faced no competition and the Bahraini Binmen are just glad to get rid.
Fast forward to today and we are no longer owners of the stadium. Then ask yourself this,
Why have we had very little investment even after the sale of a player? why do we still have a duel code CEO ?.I personally reckon he’s got what he wanted,
The stadium
Danson’s stripped us to the bare bones with little investment even after the sale of players. Our wage bill has smashed to oblivion and we now prefer loanees.
Why?, I’ll have anyone a bet Danson sells us in the next 12-18 months. He’s not interested. He’ll sell us then we’ll subsidise the daily running of the stadium in rent. Remember he’ll still own the rugby and stadium so he could potentially make any new owners of Latics basically cover the yearly running cost while the rugby pay pennies, he can then charge the rugby anything he wants.If he was interested in keeping us we’d have a CEO and Maloney would have the Hughes money to reinvest. For me he’s achieved his goal, buy us then get the ground.
If he’s our owner in 18 months I’ll show my arse at the top of Wigan, he clearly does not give a flying fook about Latics
I’ve always said that Danson had to address the stupid unsustainable wages before we could move forward and in the summer that’s exactly what happened.
But the big tell tale signs for me that something ain’t right was the lack of funds for Maloney especially from the sale of Lang and Hughes.
I’m not saying give him all the money but he’s not been backed.It’s not rocket science that you need to reinvest part of any sale to keep the production line going and all’s I see is an owner biding his time, driving the running cost down so far we become far more attractive to any new owners with super low running cost.
Who’s the worse
Hong Kong Cookie Crew ?
Bahraini Binmen?
Desperate Danson ?We have to be the most unluckiest club in the country when it comes to owners.the last 3 all supposedly super rich but at least the first 2 had a plan even if it was a shit one.
Someone Tues at the game commented on Northampton having 2 forwards on the pitch and 3 on the bench . His mate stated “we just can’t afford to pay their wages”……F### me…Northampton??? Really ? I can’t imagine Hoskins,Eaves,Waghorn are being paid a kings ransom…..it’s more we don’t WANT to pay anywhere near the league 1 going rate hence the loanies. I agree about our owner. ..I personally can see us being offloaded on Ebay minus the stadium with not one player as an asset. 1 year in and the club feels terminally ill…..unless Danson surprises us all with financial support for Maloney then the stadium seats being released done in red is on the horizon.
The crooks of it all is, were a football club and we were bought by Danson as a football club, not a charity or a women’s football team were a league one football club both the charity and women’s came after.
Since the take over Danson has been fianantually putting our house in order with massive across the board cuttbacks. Were abit like a refurbishment on a run down property were you rip out its guts till your back to shell then rebuild. The big difference is,
Were down to shell but we’ve not been given any money to rebuild the football team.Along with the huge cuttbacks i’ve also seen the stadium taken away along with a big focus on his close to heart charity and big investment into the women’s newly formed side.
This is all good and well but while all this cuttbacks take place and we now focus charity and work in the community plus the women’s team we’ve a football team and fans that have been left to fester like an open wound.
This self sufficienty bollox has to be gradually built up over years not overnight, you can’t just cut the blood supply off then expect the heart to keep pumping it’s impossible. Sell invest sell, invest not sell…… ? sell……?
Maloney’s been dry bummed with a hairdryer followed by a good application of sawdust and talc.If Danson applied this chop the rot approach/self sufficient policy to his beloved rugby they’d be bankrupt in a year. It’s absolutely impossible for the rugby to be self sufficient, they rely on Danson like a 1 month old baby hanging off it’s mums t!t.
It’s ok for us to be told we need to be accountable for every penny and we must stand on our own 2 feet but how to fcukin hell can we ever do that if money from the sale of players just disappears and part of the sale money isn’t reinvested back into the squad? we can never stand alone without reinvesting part of any player sale funds.
It’s as though we’ve been hacked at with a blunt axe while the rugby happily meander along without a pot to pish in doing their Oliver Twist impression bowl in hand to Sugar Daddy Danson.
To me it’s clear, he’s got what he wanted, the ground. he wanted it so bad he bought us to get at it beating any other potential buyers to the post before got chance to make bids in administration.
This has now safeguarded the rugby’s future and Danson from been charged embarrassing rent. Now he doesn’t have to answer to anyone. Can you imagine a multi billionaire been told what he can and can’t do with the ground?, someone like Danson would be left red faced and fuming.
He’s currently now trying to paint a turd with us, he’s smashed our weekly bills to mirror the budget of a non league club and has no doubt drafted up a lucrative rent lease for any potential new Latics buyers. I’d like to see what the football gets charged when sold to what the rugby pay?. Infact I’d like see it now tbh.
For me all’s I see is an owner hell bent culling to the point were were attractive in the market, cheap to run (on paper) so he’s basically financially culled and valeted us with monstrous cuttbacks so we now look like a good thing in the market place and we land some more Hong Kong Crew or Bahraini Binmen.
This tells me one thing and it’s as clear as day, Danson doesn’t want to invest his money, he wants to sell then let someone else do that he sees no future with us he will sell that I’m sure of.
And this for me is were the roller coaster never ends because the next owners will soon realise after they’ve bought us there’s cracks everywhere that have been papered over and we have nothing left to sell
Danson’s spring cleaned and kept it all
Why is it so many supporters still can’t smell the cow shit ??…Do they really think that once the car crash of a club is financially stabilisd that Mr Danson is then going to set about backing Maloney and going for promotion …..not once but twice…Bollocks!!.. Got his ground….period. But will have no issues pumping dead coinage into the slutch rats….with absolutely no potential of a return. Have to admit like many I was happy to believe we had found Dave Whelan mk2…..but gradually over the last 12 months it’s obvious……there’s only going to be one great Wigan Athletic statue outside the ground!!!!
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