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Its because Griff they have no ideas to answer (just like Jewell and Bruce) the dilemma that as a club we are punching far above our weight…
However Roberto Martinez has clearly sat down and put in place the sort of long term plans that can allow us to compete with teams that make more revenue in pie sales than we do in gate receipts.
Currently we have had two of our wingers from the development squad go out and make a very good impression in the Championship…
It wasnt too long ago one of our hottest prospects on the lips of Wigan fans was none other than Magno Viera who although is doing very well at Fleetwood Town I hear …. is a good representation of how far we have come when you compare him to the likes of Dicko and Cruyff’s grandson ( please refer to youtube video for indication of his ability )
Spain and Barcelona are a mile away in standard from England and any other English club and probably will be for the forseeable future.
How did they acheive it?
Through long term planning from grass root level.
Exactly what Martinez is trying to do.
Of course Wiganers are generally thought of to be 20 years behind the rest of the world so this creates a bit of a pickle for the likes of Hindley who just cant understand why we cant just lob the pigskin into the box and hope for the best….
Fair enough we’ve took a few punches along the way but we are by no means out for the count!
And to call Martinez a failure when he has kept the club for last 2 seasons without a striker who cannot hit the fucking back of the net like all strikers should do is insane and surely only strengthens the fact that tactically we are very strong.
As said previously in another thread if Martinez had the money that Bruce was spending on an average season we could easily afford Defoe or a simlilar striker of his quality…
Perhaps Whelan should get his hands in his pockets eh the tight ol’ sod ?
If I was him and read some of the shite on here I’d think bollox to ya ill leave ya where I found ya you ungreatful bar stuords.
My suspicion is 99% of the so called “darksiders” would do a dissapearing act if we started plummeting through the leagues so they can pick a new team to bitch and moan about….
rant over.
I’ve watched this team for 35 years so your high and mighty opinion that I’m not a proper supporter doesn’t really stand up. And I’m sorry but if you honestly believe that Bob is laying the foundations for a footballing dynasty :woohoo:
And you call me a retard.[/quote]
Dont flatter yourself I couldnt care less what you do.
35 years? well done!!!
So Have you always been such a miserable git? :kiss:
Been a while since I saw a ‘discussion’ end up in I have supported wigan for x years….
Next we will be seeing the look how far we have come comment…
And I’m sorry but if you honestly believe that Bob is laying the foundations for a footballing dynasty :woohoo:
If you mean ‘is he winning games with regularity?’, then the answer is no.
If you mean ‘is he trying to get the club producing its own young player and thus helping it become self sufficient?’ then the answer is yes.
No doubt there will be a queue of people ready to disagree with that last point.[/quote]
Are the reserves not for that? Wigan Athletic Development Squad or whatever its called ? Its just that 7 of the 11 the other night were lets say of a more mature age and from other clubs ! None of the 6 young lads that came sprinting on at half time peppering the nets with all array of shots (like ya did when you were kids) got a sniff ! Jones came on in 2nd half but he is an old head now really ! Perhaps normally it is predominantly a youth team but not the other night !
I am not debunking your post by the way Standish ! Just saying !Has Salford had a reach around from Robbie cos he certainly avoids the facts and lives in a misty eyed ,soft focus dream land.Try not to insult our intelligence by resorting to petty juvenile insults,and I need not justify myself to you .I’ve done my 35 year Wigan apprenticeship and was there during the bad /good old days,skinning myself for away trips and when skint hitch hiking. We know the restraints he works under but the stats are unquestionable .He has shown a Benitez like stubbornness ,blown what dosh he had and bored me to death persisting with a style of play that we have’nt got the players to carry out.We have been embarrassed with record Prem scorelines ,dicked by every lower league team we play,cant score and you still polish his nice brown shows and bow your head in his company.Give all this information to a neutral analyst and his conclusion would be nice try but off you pop.Then again we are little Wigan so we should be happy just to be here.He has been a disaster but that doesn’t mean i want him to fail but he has managed that himself.
Has Salford had a reach around from Robbie cos he certainly avoids the facts and lives in a misty eyed ,soft focus dream land.Try not to insult our intelligence by resorting to petty juvenile insults,and I need not justify myself to you .I’ve done my 35 year Wigan apprenticeship and was there during the bad /good old days,skinning myself for away trips and when skint hitch hiking. We know the restraints he works under but the stats are unquestionable .He has shown a Benitez like stubbornness ,blown what dosh he had and bored me to death persisting with a style of play that we have’nt got the players to carry out.We have been embarrassed with record Prem scorelines ,dicked by every lower league team we play,cant score and you still polish his nice brown shows and bow your head in his company.Give all this information to a neutral analyst and his conclusion would be nice try but off you pop.Then again we are little Wigan so we should be happy just to be here.He has been a disaster but that doesn’t mean i want him to fail but he has managed that himself.And against all odds above has kept us in the premier league on two possibly three years on the go
The man deserves a pat on the back wouldn’t you agree your sounding like a Newcastle supporter
Nothing like having nil ambition …What do you expect the ambitions of the club should be?
And the question isn’t manager or playing staff specific so please don’t go on a tirade against Martinez, his assistants and players.Its like when you were a kid and you climbed your first really high tree. When you got right to the top you popped your head very nervously through the uppermost foliage and looked around deciding instantly that this wasn’t for you and you slowly started to descend thinking to yourself ” never again but I did do it “
Its like when you were a kid and you climbed your first really high tree. When you got right to the top you popped your head very nervously through the uppermost foliage and looked around deciding instantly that this wasn’t for you and you slowly started to descend thinking to yourself ” never again but I did do it “This window cleaning round that you have Fil. Do you only do bungalows. :dry:
Its like when you were a kid and you climbed your first really high tree. When you got right to the top you popped your head very nervously through the uppermost foliage and looked around deciding instantly that this wasn’t for you and you slowly started to descend thinking to yourself ” never again but I did do it “
This window cleaning round that you have Fil. Do you only do bungalows. :dry:[/quote]
I wish !! :)
Its because Griff they have no ideas to answer (just like Jewell and Bruce) the dilemma that as a club we are punching far above our weight…
However Roberto Martinez has clearly sat down and put in place the sort of long term plans that can allow us to compete with teams that make more revenue in pie sales than we do in gate receipts.
Currently we have had two of our wingers from the development squad go out and make a very good impression in the Championship…
It wasnt too long ago one of our hottest prospects on the lips of Wigan fans was none other than Magno Viera who although is doing very well at Fleetwood Town I hear …. is a good representation of how far we have come when you compare him to the likes of Dicko and Cruyff’s grandson ( please refer to youtube video for indication of his ability )
Spain and Barcelona are a mile away in standard from England and any other English club and probably will be for the forseeable future.
How did they acheive it?
Through long term planning from grass root level.
Exactly what Martinez is trying to do.
Of course Wiganers are generally thought of to be 20 years behind the rest of the world so this creates a bit of a pickle for the likes of Hindley who just cant understand why we cant just lob the pigskin into the box and hope for the best….
Fair enough we’ve took a few punches along the way but we are by no means out for the count!
And to call Martinez a failure when he has kept the club for last 2 seasons without a striker who cannot hit the fucking back of the net like all strikers should do is insane and surely only strengthens the fact that tactically we are very strong.
As said previously in another thread if Martinez had the money that Bruce was spending on an average season we could easily afford Defoe or a simlilar striker of his quality…
Perhaps Whelan should get his hands in his pockets eh the tight ol’ sod ?
If I was him and read some of the shite on here I’d think bollox to ya ill leave ya where I found ya you ungreatful bar stuords.
My suspicion is 99% of the so called “darksiders” would do a dissapearing act if we started plummeting through the leagues so they can pick a new team to bitch and moan about….
rant over.
I’ve watched this team for 35 years so your high and mighty opinion that I’m not a proper supporter doesn’t really stand up. And I’m sorry but if you honestly believe that Bob is laying the foundations for a footballing dynasty :woohoo:
And you call me a retard.[/quote]
Dont flatter yourself I couldnt care less what you do.
35 years? well done!!!
So Have you always been such a miserable git? :kiss:[/quote]
I’ve never been more frustrated with a manager in all my time of watching football, because Salford we IMO have been shite for 3 seasons. The manager is trying to make us play like Barcelona while signing players from Scotland. His style of football is slow and boring and we will never have the quality of player who can play up front on his own. So how can you be happy with how things are because I just don’t see it.
Oh Hinders for feck sake man we have had two good seasons out of eight in the top flight put a sock in it
I will answer this when benidorm finishes
I’ve never been more frustrated with a manager in all my time of watching football, because Salford we IMO have been shite for 3 seasons. The manager is trying to make us play like Barcelona while signing players from Scotland. His style of football is slow and boring and we will never have the quality of player who can play up front on his own. So how can you be happy with how things are because I just don’t see it.1166 posts. Every one the same. Change the fucking record!!
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