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    Cheating fooker. How has that Kermit penalty been given. Luckily Umtiti and a rush of blood to the head has evened it up.

    #169666
    crammy yickcrammy yick
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      VAR = FARce

      Dont like it one bit so far

      #169667
      dnrdnr
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        They seem to be getting the decisions right so far with the car and the goal line tech. Surely it’s better for the right decision?

        #169674
        They seem to be getting the decisions right so far with the car and the goal line tech. Surely it’s better for the right decision?

        Phil Neville came out with the best analysis and was spot on. Even after VAR there was doubt in the decision some saying penalty some saying not so if there is no clear cut verdict then a penalty should not have been awarded. Would like to hear Tyldesley,s verdict on it . I’m with crammy on this for me its not working properly.

        #169690
        dnrdnr
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          Perfect intervention in the Sweden game, same as in the Peru game, penalty given when it was missed.
          Ref should have spotted it but the wrong was corrected.
          I think it is working well so far.

          #169693

          I’m quite pleased how quickly the process is running.
          The experiences of the PL were embarrassing as everyone dithered, but these seem to be making decisions quickly.

          #169696

          They seem to be getting the decisions right so far with the car and the goal line tech. Surely it’s better for the right decision?

          Phil Neville came out with the best analysis and was spot on. Even after VAR there was doubt in the decision some saying penalty some saying not so if there is no clear cut verdict then a penalty should not have been awarded. Would like to hear Tyldesley,s verdict on it . I’m with crammy on this for me its not working properly.[/quote]

          I don’t like it & all the reasons in the past that I’ve said why I don’t like it have all been borne out so far in both the FA Cup last season & the brief bits I’ve seen of the World Cup so far.
          That France one was a penalty though & I’m not sure how the ref missed the one in the Sweden game earlier

          I will say though that I’ll reserve judgement on how it’s used at the World Cup until I’ve seen it being used all the way through, as FIFA are using it slightly differently to how the FA did last season

          #169701
          donnys pageDonnys Page
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            Fooked it up again tonight.

            #169705
            horchorc
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              Fooked it up again tonight.

              How was a penalty not given in the first half when Harry Kane was wrestled to the ground, and to make matters worse it happened again in the 2nd half.
              Match Referees are scrutinized and rated by an official, I hope these VAR officials are also looked at coz those decisions were ridiculous.

              #169706
              donnys pageDonnys Page
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                Total farce.

                #169711

                They seem to be getting the decisions right so far with the car and the goal line tech. Surely it’s better for the right decision?

                Phil Neville came out with the best analysis and was spot on. Even after VAR there was doubt in the decision some saying penalty some saying not so if there is no clear cut verdict then a penalty should not have been awarded. Would like to hear Tyldesley,s verdict on it . I’m with crammy on this for me its not working properly.[/quote]

                I don’t like it & all the reasons in the past that I’ve said why I don’t like it have all been borne out so far in both the FA Cup last season & the brief bits I’ve seen of the World Cup so far.
                That France one was a penalty though & I’m not sure how the ref missed the one in the Sweden game earlier

                I will say though that I’ll reserve judgement on how it’s used at the World Cup until I’ve seen it being used all the way through, as FIFA are using it slightly differently to how the FA did last season[/quote]

                Is Neville right though tilders, is the general rule of thumb that if there is doubt it shouldn’t be awarded. And who decides when it is used. Like some have said if Tunisia get a penalty for that how on earth is the challenge on Kane waved away. I’m not sure if its a help or hindrance to referees.

                #169713
                dnrdnr
                Player

                  And there I was feeling positive about VAR!
                  I dont understand why it wasn’t looked at by the VAR and brought to the refs attention like the other decisions, bonkers

                  #169716

                  They seem to be getting the decisions right so far with the car and the goal line tech. Surely it’s better for the right decision?

                  Phil Neville came out with the best analysis and was spot on. Even after VAR there was doubt in the decision some saying penalty some saying not so if there is no clear cut verdict then a penalty should not have been awarded. Would like to hear Tyldesley,s verdict on it . I’m with crammy on this for me its not working properly.[/quote]

                  I don’t like it & all the reasons in the past that I’ve said why I don’t like it have all been borne out so far in both the FA Cup last season & the brief bits I’ve seen of the World Cup so far.
                  That France one was a penalty though & I’m not sure how the ref missed the one in the Sweden game earlier

                  I will say though that I’ll reserve judgement on how it’s used at the World Cup until I’ve seen it being used all the way through, as FIFA are using it slightly differently to how the FA did last season[/quote]

                  Is Neville right though tilders, is the general rule of thumb that if there is doubt it shouldn’t be awarded. And who decides when it is used. Like some have said if Tunisia get a penalty for that how on earth is the challenge on Kane waved away. I’m not sure if its a help or hindrance to referees.[/quote]

                  I’ve never used it myself as they didn’t have it in the Evo-Stik league!! but from what I can gather it is only supposed to be used to correct clear & obvious errors or things that have been missed.
                  That was a penalty for Tunisia last night no matter how soft or accidental it looked. How England didn’t get 2 for the rugby tackles on Kane I have no idea. If the ref said he didn’t see them then, as far as I’m aware, that is what VAR is for. If he did see them & didn’t think they were penalties then, to be frank, he shouldn’t be officiating at a World Cup
                  I did read something last night on Twitter that said it isn’t to be used if the ref sees the incident & 100% thinks it isn’t a foul – it could well be that whoever the VAR is reviewed it & spoke to the ref via his earpiece about it. If the ref said he saw it & it wasn’t a foul then the VAR can’t over rule the ref. It could also be that the ref asked the VAR & the VAR told him there was nothing.
                  Either way someone was wrong. if they both viewed it & didn’t think it was that is baffling

                  #169719

                  Cheers Tyldesley I think baffling is a perfect way of describing it

                  #169768

                  As the one most qualified to answer our questions TL what did you think of the decision to award the Aussies a penalty against. Denmark?. My take is the referee would have seen the ball strike an arm so rightly wanted assistance to see if it was deliberate. The decision from VAR after seeing the incident was outrageous and hard to believe. I would hope tilders that if you had the same view that VAR has you would never give a penalty for that. My concern is that it is making a mockery of the game and whilst the ref may make a few mistakes and get decisions wrong during a game he only has a split second and one opportunity to call it right. There is simply no excuse for VAR to get any decisions wrong. We may as well go back to leaving it to the ref at least his are honest mistakes.

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