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  • #102818
    jimmycjimmyc
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      Our home record for conceding goals is over 2 a game on average ! Who said home is an advantage !

      That is correct filmos, and we have already conceded the same amount of goals at home so far this season as we did for the whole of the last one. At this rate Bob is going to break his own record for goals against.. Although that said his scoring record at home is consistent and the previous two seasons have only been improved on in our debut season in the prem.

      Not sure where this three at the back saying comes from. I’d swear i watch a 5-4-1 formation most weeks.

      #102824

      We do tend to overcook it a little and attempt to walk the ball into the net ! Last season on that dream run we seemed to dispense with the tippy tappy sideways and backwards stuff and got the ball through to the business end of things swiftly and efficiently. Unfortunately the former tactics seem to have crept back into our game !

      Did we bollocks!! All we might have done was play with a little higher tempo! The style was exactly the same! Jesus, talk about making things up to suit your argument!![/quote]

      Watch the games back and the sideways backwards shite was definitely dispensed with ! As you say the tempo was quicker but it was also more direct ! I am afraid Griff that you are wrong this time ![/quote]

      What 90 minutes of every game? Don’t talk ridiculous, man!

      Gomez played almost all of those games and, according to most of you lot, he can’t knock a ball forward at all, so how do you work that out?[/quote]

      I am saying we dropped the piss about tactics and I have never questioned Gomez’s ability ! With all due respect sir you are wrong ! B)[/quote]

      I’m wrong because you said so? I don’t think so, Phil. Well just have to agree to disagree.

      #102825
      filmossfilmoss
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        We do tend to overcook it a little and attempt to walk the ball into the net ! Last season on that dream run we seemed to dispense with the tippy tappy sideways and backwards stuff and got the ball through to the business end of things swiftly and efficiently. Unfortunately the former tactics seem to have crept back into our game !

        Did we bollocks!! All we might have done was play with a little higher tempo! The style was exactly the same! Jesus, talk about making things up to suit your argument!![/quote]

        Watch the games back and the sideways backwards shite was definitely dispensed with ! As you say the tempo was quicker but it was also more direct ! I am afraid Griff that you are wrong this time ![/quote]

        What 90 minutes of every game? Don’t talk ridiculous, man!

        Gomez played almost all of those games and, according to most of you lot, he can’t knock a ball forward at all, so how do you work that out?[/quote]

        I am saying we dropped the piss about tactics and I have never questioned Gomez’s ability ! With all due respect sir you are wrong ! B)[/quote]

        I’m wrong because you said so? I don’t think so, Phil. Well just have to agree to disagree.[/quote]

        You will feel the force of the Darkside on this one ! ;)

        #102828

        We do tend to overcook it a little and attempt to walk the ball into the net ! Last season on that dream run we seemed to dispense with the tippy tappy sideways and backwards stuff and got the ball through to the business end of things swiftly and efficiently. Unfortunately the former tactics seem to have crept back into our game !

        Did we bollocks!! All we might have done was play with a little higher tempo! The style was exactly the same! Jesus, talk about making things up to suit your argument!![/quote]

        Watch the games back and the sideways backwards shite was definitely dispensed with ! As you say the tempo was quicker but it was also more direct ! I am afraid Griff that you are wrong this time ![/quote]

        What 90 minutes of every game? Don’t talk ridiculous, man!

        Gomez played almost all of those games and, according to most of you lot, he can’t knock a ball forward at all, so how do you work that out?[/quote]

        I am saying we dropped the piss about tactics and I have never questioned Gomez’s ability ! With all due respect sir you are wrong ! B)[/quote]

        I’m wrong because you said so? I don’t think so, Phil. Well just have to agree to disagree.[/quote]

        You will feel the force of the Darkside on this one ! ;)[/quote]

        Oh well, Christ knows how I’ll sleep tonight. It will help knowing that I’m right.

        #102834
        filmossfilmoss
        Player

          We do tend to overcook it a little and attempt to walk the ball into the net ! Last season on that dream run we seemed to dispense with the tippy tappy sideways and backwards stuff and got the ball through to the business end of things swiftly and efficiently. Unfortunately the former tactics seem to have crept back into our game !

          Did we bollocks!! All we might have done was play with a little higher tempo! The style was exactly the same! Jesus, talk about making things up to suit your argument!![/quote]

          Watch the games back and the sideways backwards shite was definitely dispensed with ! As you say the tempo was quicker but it was also more direct ! I am afraid Griff that you are wrong this time ![/quote]

          What 90 minutes of every game? Don’t talk ridiculous, man!

          Gomez played almost all of those games and, according to most of you lot, he can’t knock a ball forward at all, so how do you work that out?[/quote]

          I am saying we dropped the piss about tactics and I have never questioned Gomez’s ability ! With all due respect sir you are wrong ! B)[/quote]

          I’m wrong because you said so? I don’t think so, Phil. Well just have to agree to disagree.[/quote]

          You will feel the force of the Darkside on this one ! ;)[/quote]

          Oh well, Christ knows how I’ll sleep tonight. It will help knowing that I’m right.[/quote]

          But you’re not ! Don’t have nightmares !

          #102845
          The EggThe Egg
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            Not sure where this three at the back saying comes from. I’d swear i watch a 5-4-1 formation most weeks.

            We play with wing backs. When we are defending we play a 5-4-1. When we’re attacking we play a 3-4-3.

            Defending

            Boyce Ramis Caldwell Figueroa Beausejour (well that’s where he’s meant to be)

            Kone McArthur McCarthy Maloney

            Di Santo

            Attacking

            Ramis Caldwell Figueroa

            Boyce McArthur McCarthy Beausejour (well that’s where he’s meant to be now)

            Kone Di Santo Maloney

            #102855

            We do tend to overcook it a little and attempt to walk the ball into the net ! Last season on that dream run we seemed to dispense with the tippy tappy sideways and backwards stuff and got the ball through to the business end of things swiftly and efficiently. Unfortunately the former tactics seem to have crept back into our game !

            Did we bollocks!! All we might have done was play with a little higher tempo! The style was exactly the same! Jesus, talk about making things up to suit your argument!![/quote]

            Watch the games back and the sideways backwards shite was definitely dispensed with ! As you say the tempo was quicker but it was also more direct ! I am afraid Griff that you are wrong this time ![/quote]

            What 90 minutes of every game? Don’t talk ridiculous, man!

            Gomez played almost all of those games and, according to most of you lot, he can’t knock a ball forward at all, so how do you work that out?[/quote]
            On the contrary, our late revival was kick started last season when Gomez went off at Norwich and Maloney came on.
            In the games that followed Gomez hardly played at all with the only notable exception being Arsenal away.

            #102858

            We do tend to overcook it a little and attempt to walk the ball into the net ! Last season on that dream run we seemed to dispense with the tippy tappy sideways and backwards stuff and got the ball through to the business end of things swiftly and efficiently. Unfortunately the former tactics seem to have crept back into our game !

            Did we bollocks!! All we might have done was play with a little higher tempo! The style was exactly the same! Jesus, talk about making things up to suit your argument!![/quote]

            Watch the games back and the sideways backwards shite was definitely dispensed with ! As you say the tempo was quicker but it was also more direct ! I am afraid Griff that you are wrong this time ![/quote]

            What 90 minutes of every game? Don’t talk ridiculous, man!

            Gomez played almost all of those games and, according to most of you lot, he can’t knock a ball forward at all, so how do you work that out?[/quote]
            On the contrary, our late revival was kick started last season when Gomez went off at Norwich and Maloney came on.
            In the games that followed Gomez hardly played at all with the only notable exception being Arsenal away.[/quote]

            See, I give Phil and open goal and he even misses that ;)

            My point wast that the overall style of play (ie possession based) did not change at all, we just played with a higher temnpo and performed better than we have been doing this season.

            #102859

            Gomez scored the winning goal in that arsenal match, & we all know what happens when gomez scores. For those needing reminders – we never lose. :cheer:

            #102860

            Griff, in response to your comment. Perhaps we’d better start playing with a higher tempo again & soon.

            #102861
            filmossfilmoss
            Player

              We do tend to overcook it a little and attempt to walk the ball into the net ! Last season on that dream run we seemed to dispense with the tippy tappy sideways and backwards stuff and got the ball through to the business end of things swiftly and efficiently. Unfortunately the former tactics seem to have crept back into our game !

              Did we bollocks!! All we might have done was play with a little higher tempo! The style was exactly the same! Jesus, talk about making things up to suit your argument!![/quote]

              Watch the games back and the sideways backwards shite was definitely dispensed with ! As you say the tempo was quicker but it was also more direct ! I am afraid Griff that you are wrong this time ![/quote]

              What 90 minutes of every game? Don’t talk ridiculous, man!

              Gomez played almost all of those games and, according to most of you lot, he can’t knock a ball forward at all, so how do you work that out?[/quote]
              On the contrary, our late revival was kick started last season when Gomez went off at Norwich and Maloney came on.
              In the games that followed Gomez hardly played at all with the only notable exception being Arsenal away.[/quote]

              See, I give Phil and open goal and he even misses that ;)

              My point wast that the overall style of play (ie possession based) did not change at all, we just played with a higher temnpo and performed better than we have been doing this season.[/quote]

              Open goal ? Read my reply to your Gomez comment, it appears that I am suggesting that you are wrong ! You however Mr G haven’t got a leg to stand on and have been corrected and you don’t like it do you ! Anyone can turn around and say they wrote something wrong on purpose as a test ! Hold your hand up and just admit it you stubborn bastard ! :)

              #102865
              Open goal ? Read my reply to your Gomez comment, it appears that I am suggesting that you are wrong ! You however Mr G haven’t got a leg to stand on and have been corrected and you don’t like it do you ! Anyone can turn around and say they wrote something wrong on purpose as a test ! Hold your hand up and just admit it you stubborn bastard ! :)

              Last word on the subject from me…

              We DID NOT abandon the possession game that we have tried to play for 3 and a half seasons. At the risk of repeating myself, we simply played better during that period and at a quicker tempo, generally.

              You go and ask Martinez if he abandoned his short passing game during that period and see what answer you get.

              And Runcorn, I agree, you are absolutely right. I have said for three and a half years that ter weay we play is, in my opinion, a good way to play but, for it to be effective, it needs to be done at a much higher tempo than we normally do. Say, like the 9 games at the end of last season, for example, thereby proving my point.

              If Phil, or anyome else thinks we went ‘direct’ late last season they are seriously deluded. We just palyed our existing style well.

              Perhaps (and only perhaps) the loss of Moses has aseen us lose a bit of creativity in the final third this season but the way we get the ball to the final third has not changed one little bit.

              #102867
              filmossfilmoss
              Player

                Open goal ? Read my reply to your Gomez comment, it appears that I am suggesting that you are wrong ! You however Mr G haven’t got a leg to stand on and have been corrected and you don’t like it do you ! Anyone can turn around and say they wrote something wrong on purpose as a test ! Hold your hand up and just admit it you stubborn bastard ! :)

                Last word on the subject from me…

                We DID NOT abandon the possession game that we have tried to play for 3 and a half seasons. At the risk of repeating myself, we simply played better during that period and at a quicker tempo, generally.

                You go and ask Martinez if he abandoned his short passing game during that period and see what answer you get.

                And Runcorn, I agree, you are absolutely right. I have said for three and a half years that ter weay we play is, in my opinion, a good way to play but, for it to be effective, it needs to be done at a much higher tempo than we normally do. Say, like the 9 games at the end of last season, for example, thereby proving my point.

                If Phil, or anyome else thinks we went ‘direct’ late last season they are seriously deluded. We just palyed our existing style well.

                Perhaps (and only perhaps) the loss of Moses has aseen us lose a bit of creativity in the final third this season but the way we get the ball to the final third has not changed one little bit.[/quote]

                By more direct I meant moving the ball forward at a quicker tempo and not pissing about with the sideways and backwards stuff ! This is my whole point and you seem to have been confused by it ! To recap- Prior to that run we pissed about with tippy tappy going nowhere shit and then all of a sudden it was like “Wow” the penny has dropped ! They have now reverted back to tippy tappy style. Call it a slower tempo if you like but I call it pissing about for the sake of possession and if RM thinks that by having plenty of that sort of possession gives you a better chance of scoring then he is wrong ! ( Yes managers can be wrong ! ) All the people sat around us in the East Stand start getting agitated when the crab tactics kick in big time! We need to defend with a slightly higher line and start taking the game to the opposition and be more positive if we are to get out of this mess. Our current tactics have teams closing us down quickly and pushing us further back because of the very slow tempo ( We shall call it that if you like ! ) B)

                PS For the benefit of folk who haven’t read my original argument on this subject here it is again…
                “We do tend to overcook it a little and attempt to walk the ball into the net ! Last season on that dream run we seemed to dispense with the tippy tappy sideways and backwards stuff and got the ball through to the business end of things swiftly and efficiently. Unfortunately the former tactics seem to have crept back into our game !”

                #102876
                Don’t insinuate that I don’t go to games….not missed a home game in years, pal. Missed about 7 homes since I started following Latics in 1986.

                I’m not talking formations!!!! I never was.

                I’m talking about this ‘thou shall pass it to death’ shite.

                Get the fuckin ball in the other teams net and stop them getting it in ours. It really is THAT fuckin straightforward.

                This football is SHITE. That’s MY opinion. I am ENTITRLED to it.

                I think the time has come to give this site a miss……..

                The ‘select few’ have an opinion, nobody else gets one on here.

                I wasnt insinuating you dont go to games I was insinuating you were talking utter tosh so put your willy back in your pants nobody cares how long you have been going.

                If you are going to play the old “I have a right to an opinion but nobody has the right to disagree” chesnut then yeah it probably is time for you to give this site and other forums a miss.

                You can always come back to finally have your day of gloat IF we get relegated at the end of the season.

                Which we wont because Sir Martinez is lovely and his teams plays perfect, wonderful and exciting football :P

                Of course you will be nowhere to be seen when we do stay up will you lad.

                #102895
                Anonymous

                  Don’t insinuate that I don’t go to games….not missed a home game in years, pal. Missed about 7 homes since I started following Latics in 1986.

                  I’m not talking formations!!!! I never was.

                  I’m talking about this ‘thou shall pass it to death’ shite.

                  Get the fuckin ball in the other teams net and stop them getting it in ours. It really is THAT fuckin straightforward.

                  This football is SHITE. That’s MY opinion. I am ENTITRLED to it.

                  I think the time has come to give this site a miss……..

                  The ‘select few’ have an opinion, nobody else gets one on here.

                  I wasnt insinuating you dont go to games I was insinuating you were talking utter tosh so put your willy back in your pants nobody cares how long you have been going.

                  If you are going to play the old “I have a right to an opinion but nobody has the right to disagree” chesnut then yeah it probably is time for you to give this site and other forums a miss.

                  You can always come back to finally have your day of gloat IF we get relegated at the end of the season.

                  Which we wont because Sir Martinez is lovely and his teams plays perfect, wonderful and exciting football :P

                  Of course you will be nowhere to be seen when we do stay up will you lad.[/quote]

                  Who are you calling ‘lad’?

                  As I have stated many times before, in many ways, I WANT us to go down.

                  If we do stay up….and I really don’t think we will, I am only paying for a season ticket from February onwards, next season. Why should I pay for the shite that’s served up August-January?

                  Oh, and can someone please indulge me, what is Martinez’s win percentage in his time at Latics? I would be interested to know.

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