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  • #25138

    alter that question slightly

    did you sign him because he had an existing pre – contract and was that contract so water tight we couldnt get out of it,because if you have any knowledge of football at all you would not have signed him ?

    no doubt jayt you wont ask any questions from those who dare to question mr.martinez’s ability,

    or if you do ask him what did he see in graham barrow that convinced him he was upto being a premiership coach when he has been sacked at every lower league club managers post he has ever had,or was he someone he took pity on ?

    or has mr whelan told him how much of the parachute payment money will be made available to him ?

    now there are many questions that wont get asked because – the hand picked patsies that attend wont dare question this man who is running the club directly to the championship with his inability and stubborness.

    jayt you are part of the editorial /admin are you not, of a publication thats foundation was by group of people who asked searching pertinent questions about the mismanagement of bates and hamilton and freddie pye and the likes,that the general media didnt,isnt that the whole point of a fanzine,there are many fans on here and in the stands every week(and growing by the day) who want some serious things asked ,not why he has brown shoes or a beige fecking scarf,

    you represent ALL of us on here in this meeting and at least 30% dont agree with martinez and his tactics – so does that mean 30% of your questions to him will question his methods,plans and ability?

    you say, and it is repeated by many on here, that we should be pulling together and getting behind wigan athletic as fans and yes i agree,
    what i want to know more than anything is roberto,his coaching staff and the players getting behind wigan athletic,because quite frankly myself and a growing number game after game are finding it hard to believe.

    i wont hold my breath.

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    You don’t really help your cause do you? Compare your sarcastic rant above to the reasonably put questions from Yick and Standish.

    Why not go the whole hog and ask JayT to ask Roberto why he is such a clueless Spanish pr*ck and could he possibly give some thought to f****** off back home sometime soon?

    I expected better of you, to be honest.[/quote]

    Lets compare my “sarcastic rant” to the “reasonably put questions” by the chosen disciples of the self proclaimed ‘defenders of the prophet Martinez’ on here, mine rightly or wrongly put by me are the ones most people are asking every week, and those from the supporters we already know what the answers will be.

    the point of my “rant” is to highlight the fact that real questions about the real problems at Wigan athletic under Roberto Martinez will not be asked, and can anyone honestly say that the things I have said, no matter how brutal I expressed them, are not the real questions that we ALL hear in the stands,concourse,pre/post match drinking dens and on message boards every week, I repeat

    i)Why is graham barrow at Wigan athletic ?
    ii)Is there a reason we have conceded so many goals this season ?
    iii)Do you honestly believe that management and ALL the players are pulling together ?
    iv)Why does he still continue to use a system week in week out that 95% of the supporters don’t understand, most of English footballs managers despise, our players are totally out of touch with and is clearly not working ?

    The last point griff :-

    “Why not go the whole hog and ask JayT to ask Roberto why he is such a clueless Spanish pr*ck and could he possibly give some thought to f****** off back home sometime soon”?

    That is a cheap shot of the highest order, I told you before I would NEVER use any terminology that referred to Martinez’s nationality again, because I detest any form of racism and it was pointed out to me by using ‘Spanish’ as an adjective it amounts to that, to be honest I didn’t “expect better of you“, because all through any debate about Martinez, every time someone strays from what “super fans” perceive to be the correct stance the insults come thick and fast.

    #25139

    Could you ask him why the policy of playing the wingers on the wrong wing for their natural foot, and doesn’t this make us too narrow, predictable and easy to defend against

    #25140

    LMB, fairly quickly cos I have to leave soon.

    Taking the last point first. First of all, my “proposed” question was a jibe at all the Dark Side, those who normally engage in that tone of post. Normally, you are not quite that base in your comments, I agree. Secondly, if you are accusing me of insulting peple thick and fast, then I will accept that I can throw the odd sarcastic and be-littling barb around. And I make no apology, it is usually in response to some simlarly toned post. Treat like with like. Funny how I seem to disagree with TyldesleyLatic (for one) on many issues but neither of us feels the need to engage (often) in sarcastic slagging.

    As for my main point do you really think that JayT can go into a room with a Premier League football manager and ask in the tone they are couched…

    why is graham barrow at Wigan athletic ?
    Is there a reason we have conceded so many goals this season ?
    Do you honestly believe that management and ALL the players are pulling together ?
    why does he still continue to use a system week in week out that 90% of the supporters don’t understand, most of English footballs managers despise, our players are totally out of touch with it and is clearly not working ?

    … and expect the guy to give you a polite answer? JayT is there to ask your questions and have them answered. He is not there to antagonise a respected (by many) figure in football and make possibly make an @rse of himself in the process.

    You are perfectly entitled to have those questions asked. I would just suggest you find a way to ask them in a more polite and less antagonistic manner. You all come across as so aggressive; and I’m not buying it’s because you are more angry than us because you love the club more than we do.

    #25144
    jimmy_cornflakeCRAIG
    Player

      LMB – the reasons that some of your questions will not get asked is that they don’t adress your so called “real problems”

      i)Why is graham barrow at Wigan athletic ?

      Why does this matter, he picks the reserve side and has very little to do with first team action?? Is this really a problem for us at the minute?

      ii)Is there a reason we have conceded so many goals this season ?

      You expecting an answer to this? How would you answer this question?

      iii)Do you honestly believe that management and ALL the players are pulling together ?

      See above…he isn’t going to say no is he?

      iv)Why does he still continue to use a system week in week out that 95% of the supporters don’t understand, most of English footballs managers despise, our players are totally out of touch with and is clearly not working ?

      OK, I think you have a good question here but it needs to be less of an attacking statement. I would like to know why he playes the formation that he does and why he thinks it hasn’t been as effective as he thought it would be. I personally think it is a better tatic that booting it up to the front man but I also think we should play 442 at home, what would be the reason for not playing 442 at home?

      my 2p worth anyhow :)

      #25152

      Loudmouth

      At the risk of making it look like the ‘self proclaimed defenders of the prophet Martinez’ are coming over all mob-handed, here’s my input.

      I don’t think your ‘because if you have any knowledge of football at all you would not have signed him’ addition is valid, as he was signed by Bruce, long before Martinez arrived, so your comment would suggest that neither Bruce nor Martinez have any football knowledge. (Or maybe John Benson is behind it all.)

      He hasn’t set the world alight, but if Bruce AND Martinez saw something in him, then perhaps there are better things to come. If Martinez had no option but to sign him, then maybe not.

      With Graham Barrow, it’s an old cliché, but coaches and assistant managers don’t necessarily make good managers. There are endless examples of this.

      Without trying to sound patronising, your other questions are valid enough and could be used to get a decent insight if you rephrase them and slip the phrase ‘In your opinion….’ in there. If you ask an aggressive question, you generally get a defensive answer, and the discussion stops there immediately.

      #25156
      shorthousemuirIan Miller
      Player

        1. What’s your favourite food/drink?

        2. What would you have done if you hadn’t had a career in football?

        3. What’s your most embarrassing football moment?

        Well, he needs a bit of a respite at some point otherwise the poor bugger won’t bother turning up.

        #25201
        PrescottChris
        Player

          1. What is his view on Jimmy Mc’s decision to play for Ireland over Scotland and would he have considered playing for England (if he was good enough, which he undoubtedly was)?

          2. Just between you and me, how old is Hendry Thomas really?

          3. Vladimir Stojkovic. Explain.

          4. What is the current situation with Chris Kirkland and the England number one jersey?

          5. Did we get Moses for a cut-price given Palace’s financial struggles and how much a bargain does he think this represents?

          #25202
          The EggThe Egg
          Chairman

            Which of the players can eat the most Weetabix in one sitting?

            #25210

            1. given that our midfield players seem to be very slow in getting forward to support the lone striker, what instructions are each of our 5 midfield players given in terms of going forward ?

            2. so that we may be able to witness what better things may possibly lay ahead for us, is there a premiership or european team whose style of play we are trying to emulate ?

            #25211
            jimmy_cornflakeCRAIG
            Player
              1. given that our midfield players seem to be very slow in getting forward to support the lone striker, what instructions are each of our 5 midfield players given in terms of going forward ?

              2. so that we may be able to witness what better things may possibly lay ahead for us, is there a premiership or european team whose style of play we are trying to emulate ?

              Two very good questions!

              I would even extend question 1 to “Diame, Sharner and Thomas look to be very similar players in that they are defensive midfielders and ball winners – do you think that this is the main cause of limited service to the lone striker up front? What are the instructions that you give to Rodders, Charles and Jimmy to support the lone striker?”

              #25221
              galacTICSanjay Shah
              Player

                As a fence sitter I have to say that whilst loudmouth’s style of questioning aligns with his username, the nature of his questions are valid.

                I’m very keen to understand why Roberto thought it wise as an unproven top flight manager to be supported by coaching staff who have less management experience and success than himself.

                I can understand him needing players (e.g Gomez, Scotland) who support him the dressing room, but surely a wise old prem head amongst his coaching staff wouldn’t have gone amiss?

                I’d also like to understand why he’s afraid to change his style of play just to suit his principles. It’s clear that not all of our players are suited to a passing game – in the interests of survival shouldn’t he play to their strengths rather than stick to principes that aren’t working?

                Thirdly, can he explain his comments that losing by 1 or 4 goals doesn’t matter. It’s clear that GD will play a part at the end of the season…did his comments affect the players into thinking it didn’t matter if they shipped 3-4 more after going 1 or 2 nil down? Did he not look back at some of the previous seasons of our and others survival through GD and goals scored?

                #25227

                galacTIC,
                these are not really questions, they are a telling off
                – much akin to the wife asking why you had to have an extra pint ?
                and then felt the need to call at the chippy on the way home ? hadn’t you already spent enough money already ?

                #25259

                Yes, I agree. It is my understanding that Roberto has agreed to a question and answer session, not a public lynching

                #25260

                Yes, I agree. It is my understanding that Roberto has agreed to a question and answer session, not a public lynching

                #25261
                JaytJayt
                Chairman

                  I was with him for over an hour, just got started on writing it up, I’ll put it on the news page when I’m done…..

                  What a top, straight talking bloke he is…..

                  Thanks for all your questions, I could not get anywhere near answering them all so he is going to do another next month, I’ll ask for new questions nearer the time.

                  I did get an answer to the scarf question though, so you can rest assured that one has been put to bed :D

                  FA Cup Winners 2013, sounds good that

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