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    Hindley blueHindley blue
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      Standish all the points you raised are correct but are also the reasons we are loosing support and quickly becoming a laughing stock in the Premier League. We have a clueless manager and a team that on Saturday and for most of last season was a joke.Hardly surprising our attendances are dropping.

      And just for the record I and I’m sure alot of other people would willingly pay more for a season ticket and see a decent team than be the cheapest in the league and watch this shoite.

      #43003
      pembertonianPembertonian
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        Don’t shoot the messenger.
        Got told over the weekend that Whelan is trying to buy back into Wigan Rugby.
        I don’t know in what position but it was from a very good source.
        Does that mean that he is pulling out of Latics?
        Has he had enough of (or can’t afford to) bankroll them?
        Has he found a buyer for Latics?
        More questions than answers I’m afraid.
        We’ll have to wait and see.

        Heard he’s asked the Wigan chairman how much he’d want to sell the club but that’s as far as it went.

        #43004
        pembertonianPembertonian
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          Bankrolled your men for the last 10yrs,and well you know it seeing how you boast on RL websites
          as to how little rent your club pay’s.You Numpty :oops:

          In English, you gozzy eyed mouth breather.

          #43189

          Standish all the points you raised are correct but are also the reasons we are loosing support and quickly becoming a laughing stock in the Premier League. We have a clueless manager and a team that on Saturday and for most of last season was a joke.Hardly surprising our attendances are dropping.

          And just for the record I and I’m sure alot of other people would willingly pay more for a season ticket and see a decent team than be the cheapest in the league and watch this shoite.


          Exactly how much more would you and this ‘lot of other people’ you are going on about be prepared to stump up for your season ticket? What sort of standard of player do you want at the club and how much are you willing to up your season ticket price to cover it?

          To help you decide, our current highest paid player is on around £35k per week, I believe. Craig Bellamy – a 31 year old coming to the end of his career – has just joined Cardiff and is apparently on £85k per week. You seriously think that upping the season ticket price a bit for you and you ‘lot of other people’ – and anyway, I don’t think that many of them would join you, to be honest – would cover that £50k per week hike in wages? And that’s just for one player, with nothing like any guarantee of success, of course.

          I hesitate to use the word Portsmouth – again – but I think it relevant.

          #43192

          What he has spent on transfers is largely irrelevant compared to the wage bill which is £42m nearly as much as the entire turnover. With agents fees, transfer fees, and overheads the club’s operating costs are around £60m per year. We’d have been insolvent years ago were it not for Whelans funding.

          Dont like the man personally for the way he does business but it terms of WAFC, without Whelan we would never have got to the Premier league and nor would we have stayed here.
          Feel free to chip in with 40 or 50 million of your own ( which youll probably never get back ) if you care so deeply.
          Otherwise its time to accept that the party might be over. Some of us will hang around to help clear up, the rest will just go off in a sulk.
          Theres a lot of sulkers on this website at the minute. :roll:

          #43215
          martinhmartinh
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            One of the advantages of going back down the pyramid is that at least we’ll go back to being a slightly less public laughing stock.

            But I can’t help feeling it could have all been a bit different for Whelan and the Latics. Much as I hate spud-head for constantly unsettling our players (can’t he stick with shopping at Harrods?), he did get us within sniffing distance of European football, made our defence watertight, and attracted a better class of player than Scotland, Gomez, Caldwell, Thomas and Diame. I know that he and his backroom staff came at a price, but there was an air of professionalism and ambition about the club; which I’m just not getting from Bob, Jones and Barrow.

            Yes, they’re Latics men. But to a large extent, they’re nearly men. I loved them all as players, Rambarrow especially, but I wouldn’t have fancied pitting them week-in, week-out against some of the best in the world. Bruce shafted us twice but proved to be a much better manager during both spells.

            While I haven’t given up all hope of Bob turning things around, Dave Whelan needs to hire a defensive coach right away (Matt Jackson?), and realise that if you pay peanuts you get monkeys.

            But remembering that Ruby Wax business documentary about how he ran JJB Sports, I’m not hopeful.

            #43216
            One of the advantages of going back down the pyramid is that at least we’ll go back to being a slightly less public laughing stock.

            But I can’t help feeling it could have all been a bit different for Whelan and the Latics. Much as I hate spud-head for constantly unsettling our players (can’t he stick with shopping at Harrods?), he did get us within sniffing distance of European football, made our defence watertight, and attracted a better class of player than Scotland, Gomez, Caldwell, Thomas and Diame. I know that he and his backroom staff came at a price, but there was an air of professionalism and ambition about the club; which I’m just not getting from Bob, Jones and Barrow.

            Yes, they’re Latics men. But to a large extent, they’re nearly men. I loved them all as players, Rambarrow especially, but I wouldn’t have fancied pitting them week-in, week-out against some of the best in the world. Bruce shafted us twice but proved to be a much better manager during both spells.

            While I haven’t given up all hope of Bob turning things around, Dave Whelan needs to hire a defensive coach right away (Matt Jackson?), and realise that if you pay peanuts you get monkeys.

            But remembering that Ruby Wax business documentary about how he ran JJB Sports, I’m not hopeful.

            Great post Martin (welcome back, by the way) but until Sheik Yer Wad comes along, I fear we are stuck with the penny-pinching pauper that is Mr Whelan and all that that brings, quality-wise

            #43218
            martinhmartinh
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              I’m not sure I’d fancy a daft moneybags foreign owner, either. It’s a false economy. There’s only about six teams in any given year going to win anything meaingful at all, so if every club in the Premier League eventually needed a Sheikh Yer-wad behind them to compete, there’d still be 16 owners not getting a return on their investments, and looking elsewhere after a year or two.

              A new buyer has to be a good fit, like the Indian fella at Blackburn. Unfortunately for us, there’s not much “old money’ left in Wigan (was Uncle Joe a real person, or merely a cartoon on the tin? ). Indeed, before Dave, all our chairmen seemed to have made their money in the service sector (scrap iron, fruit machines, stationery, holiday companies).

              Whelan’s been the only game in town for years now, and he knows it. Given that he was never a Latics supporter (JJB sponsored the rugby for years when we didn’t have a pot to p1ss in; I can’t remember them so much as advertising in the programme; Standish Sports Shops were more supportive), I could see him jumping ship to the egg lot again were there any money to be made from it. Come to think of it, there’s nothing to stop him doing the full switcheroo and making us their tenants if he did.

              Of course, such doomsday scenarios will be deferred for a while should we shock the whole of football and beat Chelsea on Saturday. Such a result – and we did it thee times last season – would be enough to remind us that, though they’ve had the odd decent crowd this season, the Greatest Game’s even more on its Rs than the Latics.

              #43227
              electicblueelecticblue
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                as griff says

                welcome back martin h
                hope you stay IMO you usually talked a lot of sense. a rare thing on here.

                and no i am not a stalker

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