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If we forget the WHO for a moment and consider the desired attributes of any new manager, these are my top 4 in order of priority irrespective of the name of the guy.
Realism: The single most important thing for me is that the new manager understands from day one, and is happy to work within, strict financial controls which will ensure that Wigan Athletic is run as a viable business concern. I don’t care who he is as long as he doesn’t whinge after 6 or 12 months that more funds aren’t available.
Entertainment: Watching football is my hobby, it’s what I do on my days off work and therefore I want to enjoy it. I’d rather see us win 10 games 3-2, draw 10 games 2-2 and lose 10 games 2-3 than win 15 dull games 1-0 and draw 15 dull games 0-0.
Playing Style: Personal preference but I like to watch teams get the ball on the ground and pass it about and I like to see teams which are attack minded as opposed to being defensive and cautious.
Success: This is a relative measure and very arbitrary, if I’m totally honest I’m not really bothered if we get relegated again as long as all the above have been fulfilled, If we can do all the above, then avoiding relegation would be another successful season for me.
If we forget the WHO for a moment and consider the desired attributes of any new manager, these are my top 4 in order of priority irrespective of the name of the guy.Realism: The single most important thing for me is that the new manager understands from day one, and is happy to work within, strict financial controls which will ensure that Wigan Athletic is run as a viable business concern. I don’t care who he is as long as he doesn’t whinge after 6 or 12 months that more funds aren’t available.
Entertainment: Watching football is my hobby, it’s what I do on my days off work and therefore I want to enjoy it. I’d rather see us win 10 games 3-2, draw 10 games 2-2 and lose 10 games 2-3 than win 15 dull games 1-0 and draw 15 dull games 0-0.
Playing Style: Personal preference but I like to watch teams get the ball on the ground and pass it about and I like to see teams which are attack minded as opposed to being defensive and cautious.
Success: This is a relative measure and very arbitrary, if I’m totally honest I’m not really bothered if we get relegated again as long as all the above have been fulfilled, If we can do all the above, then avoiding relegation would be another successful season for me.
I agree with most of that apart from your last paragraph. Dave Whelan and Roberto Martinez have worked really hard to build a sustainable family football club that grows year on year (support wise). It does my heart good to see all our young fans dressed in their Wigan Athletic kits when just a few years ago they would all have been wearing Man Utd’s et al. It would be a pity if we started to slide down the leagues after all that magnificent work.
I would also include PRIDE in your list. Roberto Martinez was one of the few managers we have had that was proud to be our manager. I got the impression that even Paul Jewel was embarrassed to be our manager at times because we were not big enough for him. It would almost certainly exclude the likes of Steve (Harrods) Bruce from the job who gave the impression he was doing us a favour being here.
If we forget the WHO for a moment and consider the desired attributes of any new manager, these are my top 4 in order of priority irrespective of the name of the guy.
Realism: The single most important thing for me is that the new manager understands from day one, and is happy to work within, strict financial controls which will ensure that Wigan Athletic is run as a viable business concern. I don’t care who he is as long as he doesn’t whinge after 6 or 12 months that more funds aren’t available.
Entertainment: Watching football is my hobby, it’s what I do on my days off work and therefore I want to enjoy it. I’d rather see us win 10 games 3-2, draw 10 games 2-2 and lose 10 games 2-3 than win 15 dull games 1-0 and draw 15 dull games 0-0.
Playing Style: Personal preference but I like to watch teams get the ball on the ground and pass it about and I like to see teams which are attack minded as opposed to being defensive and cautious.
Success: This is a relative measure and very arbitrary, if I’m totally honest I’m not really bothered if we get relegated again as long as all the above have been fulfilled, If we can do all the above, then avoiding relegation would be another successful season for me.
I agree with most of that apart from your last paragraph. Dave Whelan and Roberto Martinez have worked really hard to build a sustainable family football club that grows year on year (support wise). It does my heart good to see all our young fans dressed in their Wigan Athletic kits when just a few years ago they would all have been wearing Man Utd’s et al. It would be a pity if we started to slide down the leagues after all that magnificent work.
I would also include PRIDE in your list. Roberto Martinez was one of the few managers we have had that was proud to be our manager. I got the impression that even Paul Jewel was embarrassed to be our manager at times because we were not big enough for him. It would almost certainly exclude the likes of Steve (Harrods) Bruce from the job who gave the impression he was doing us a favour being here.[/quote]
He showed great pride Owd Git he got us relegated then fooked off, talk is cheap I’m afraid.
Can’t deny what you say is true Hindley but surely you can give him a little credit for something even if it’s only the FA Cup.
I take your point Owd_Git about the effects of sliding down the league after positive growth in recent years. My lad is one of those who wears his kit with pride, but to be honest he still will when we do inevitably return to league one. I was listing my own personal hopes for the new manager. I’m finding as I get older that I’m a lot less bothered about what everyone else gets out of supporting Wigan and am more concerned with my own enjoyment and turning up every week with my lad and my mates to watch an entertaining if somewhat unsuccessful team is just fine with me (although I obviously would take success as well, it’s just not that important to me anymore).
If people don’t want to support us in the future just because we are in the bottom 2 divisions that’s their choice (and their loss) but I won’t lose sleep over it.
On your other point I’m not bothered at all about pride from the manager, come in and do the job to the best of your ability within the limitations you will inevitably face, that’s all I ask.I have to say that Arthur_Itis has hit the nail on the head for me ….. I feel exactly the same. The problem with the modern game is that we have all been “Sky-Hyped” … into believing that the Premiership is the be all and end all of football. The fact that most teams are there just to provide funds and opposition for the Big 5 or 6 seems to have passed most people by. The fact that most struggle year in year out just to survive also seems to pass people by.
All I want from my team is entertaining football, maybe a home grown hero coming through the ranks and above all to play with pride for the Tree and Crown …. I want my boys to share in that feeling as they grow up …. whether that is when they are paying £7 for a hotdog at the Emirates or if they are paying £1.50 for a Bovril at Rochdale in League 2 …. it matters not.
The reality of it is that we have reached our footballing peak, we will never win the FA Cup again and we probably will never get back into the top 10 in the Premiership, so lets just enjoy what we have and be proud of it.
we will never win the FA Cup again and we probably will never get back into the top 10 in the Premiership, so lets just enjoy what we have and be proud of it.Nout like been positive
The new man must have BROWN shoes it is a must ;)
I’m always very positive when it comes to WAFC, but also I realise what we have achieved so far has been amazing and way beyond anything dreamed possible. Not a 100% lightsider and not a 100% darksider ….. is there a “greyside” ???
Top 10 in the premiership is WAY ABOVE our standard and what we as a club can aim for ….. the top 10 in the premiership get stronger and richer every year, year on year (one of the reasons for us playing super football, yet still getting relegated last year) …. given my experience of WAFC over the years, I would say that the Championship is our level and anything above should be cherished. Just my opinion like.
I’m a grey side if that’s a valid term, but lifelong to say we’ve reached our peak is nonsense.
10 years ago we thought we’d peaked when we got promoted to the Ch’ship. 8 years we thought that when we got promoted to the Prem. Going 2nd, getting to Cardiff, going top, getting to the FA Cup semi, getting to the final, getting into Europe, winning the cup. Who knows where we might go next?
I actually think going down is the step back we need to really launch forward, provided we can get back up within 2 seasons.
Alternatively we could just sod the Ch’ship next season, concentrate on the Europa cup, win it and bag ourselves a Champions league spot ;)
I’m always very positive when it comes to WAFC, but also I realise what we have achieved so far has been amazing and way beyond anything dreamed possible. Not a 100% lightsider and not a 100% darksider ….. is there a “greyside” ???Top 10 in the premiership is WAY ABOVE our standard and what we as a club can aim for ….. the top 10 in the premiership get stronger and richer every year, year on year (one of the reasons for us playing super football, yet still getting relegated last year) …. given my experience of WAFC over the years, I would say that the Championship is our level and anything above should be cherished. Just my opinion like.
Nah, Why can we not finish in the top ten in the premiership. Dave and Bob have been saying top 6 for years even when they had no intention of trying to achieve it. All about money and lying again to try and get bums on seats. That is all Dave Whelan does.
I would have been happy with relegation in 2006 just because i had experienced the Premiership but Dave Whelan said there would be a warchest, top 6 blah blah, But he just wanted 25,000 fans every week for the relegation battles so he could pocket all the revenue.
I’m always very positive when it comes to WAFC, but also I realise what we have achieved so far has been amazing and way beyond anything dreamed possible. Not a 100% lightsider and not a 100% darksider ….. is there a “greyside” ???Top 10 in the premiership is WAY ABOVE our standard and what we as a club can aim for ….. the top 10 in the premiership get stronger and richer every year, year on year (one of the reasons for us playing super football, yet still getting relegated last year) …. given my experience of WAFC over the years, I would say that the Championship is our level and anything above should be cherished. Just my opinion like.
So your saying Swansea, West Brom n Norwich are light years ahead of us ?. Every game starts off 0-0 , if you ship goals for fun and don’t score more than the opposition you go down , simples.
So what qualities and attributes are you looking for in the next manager in order for Latics to achieve your ambitions ?
Anyone happy with someone who’ll come in and spend big on players, offering long term lucrative contracts in an effort to bounce straight back ?
Do you want a manager whose focus is on “not losing the game”, maybe sneak a lot of 1-0 wins after tight defensive performances.
Do you want a manager who’ll get the ball in the box as quickly as possible or play for free kicks in the opposition half so we can lump another ball into a crowded box, playing the percentage game.
All these are viable options, none right or wrong, just different, but what do you want ?
I’m always very positive when it comes to WAFC, but also I realise what we have achieved so far has been amazing and way beyond anything dreamed possible. Not a 100% lightsider and not a 100% darksider ….. is there a “greyside” ???
Top 10 in the premiership is WAY ABOVE our standard and what we as a club can aim for ….. the top 10 in the premiership get stronger and richer every year, year on year (one of the reasons for us playing super football, yet still getting relegated last year) …. given my experience of WAFC over the years, I would say that the Championship is our level and anything above should be cherished. Just my opinion like.
Nah, Why can we not finish in the top ten in the premiership. Dave and Bob have been saying top 6 for years even when they had no intention of trying to achieve it. All about money and lying again to try and get bums on seats. That is all Dave Whelan does.
I would have been happy with relegation in 2006 just because i had experienced the Premiership but Dave Whelan said there would be a warchest, top 6 blah blah, But he just wanted 25,000 fans every week for the relegation battles so he could pocket all the revenue.[/quote]
At the risk of prompting another tirade against me, after nine years surely you honestly still don’t believe Whelan actually makes money from owning the club do you?The club’s accounts are published on the internet and it’s plain to see exactly where all the money goes.
I’m always very positive when it comes to WAFC, but also I realise what we have achieved so far has been amazing and way beyond anything dreamed possible. Not a 100% lightsider and not a 100% darksider ….. is there a “greyside” ???
Top 10 in the premiership is WAY ABOVE our standard and what we as a club can aim for ….. the top 10 in the premiership get stronger and richer every year, year on year (one of the reasons for us playing super football, yet still getting relegated last year) …. given my experience of WAFC over the years, I would say that the Championship is our level and anything above should be cherished. Just my opinion like.
Nah, Why can we not finish in the top ten in the premiership. Dave and Bob have been saying top 6 for years even when they had no intention of trying to achieve it. All about money and lying again to try and get bums on seats. That is all Dave Whelan does.
I would have been happy with relegation in 2006 just because i had experienced the Premiership but Dave Whelan said there would be a warchest, top 6 blah blah, But he just wanted 25,000 fans every week for the relegation battles so he could pocket all the revenue.[/quote]
At the risk of prompting another tirade against me, after nine years surely you honestly still don’t believe Whelan actually makes money from owning the club do you?The club’s accounts are published on the internet and it’s plain to see exactly where all the money goes.[/quote]
Standish, it’s a good job that head of yours is so mahoosive, the amount of times you insist on banging it against a brick wall.
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