who is worst ever latics manager since joining the

no offence yosser, but in some respects i’m glad we lost now :cheer:

It does make you wonder what Chairman Dave will let go before he does sack him…

In many ways there are similarities between Martinez and Swain in that they both have to manage clubs with very poor crowds and very little available money for the level they are playing at. With a restricted wage bill and small transfer pot,Kenny was restricted to unproven cast offs from Crewe and old past it pals such as Mick Kennedy & Brendan Ormsby. Martinez has to rely on the lowest gates in the division a small wage bill, sell before you can buy & rely on untried foreigners & old pals such as Gomez & Scotland.

Of course many of us have since done our City & Guilds in football finances.As others have said, we get poor crowds,Whelan doesn’t want to invest any more & nor does anyone else. Its not rocket science to see both then & now that poor crowds/income & lack of investments = weaker squad & poor results at any level of football.

Both Swain & Martinez are / where relatively inexperienced at the level they operate at but also work ( ed ) under the kind of financial restrictions that are / were likely to prevent any sort of sustained challenge up the table

The main difference is there were 1500 Latics fans then many of whom voiced their disapproval at the time but you could argue had earned their right to as they had paid their money through the turnstiles. If we’d got dicked 3-0 at Colchester or Scunthorpe you wouldn’t have an army of bedwetters..er bedroom dwellers and pub goers on here dissecting the tactics minutes after or even during the game who have watched it on a live feed.

I suppose if it came down to a vote Martinez would romp it over Swain seeing as 90% of the 15000 who watch us now were nowhere to be seen when Kenny Swain was manager and therefore don’t have a clue how bad we were :dry:

I’d go with Deehan because he had decent financial resources compared to the other two and chose to play negative, defensive dross on so many occasions when he had the players to be more attack minded

Bobby has money to spend (albeit peanuts compared to others in the division) but Kenny Swain quite literally had none to spend.
IMO what counts against Swain is not the god awful football we had to watch (a 2-2 draw away at Leek in the cup springs to mind after having led 2-0 with about 5 minutes to go) coz he took over a squad that had somet like 8 players on the first day of training (I remember a photo in the Observer with the whole squad in it) & couldn’t spend a bean but its the fact that Graham Barrow got the same squad playing much better almost instantly & that shows that his managerial skills probably weren’t up to scratch

I also believe that a different manager (& I’m talking about ones who are available at present) could get the current squad playing much better than Bobby seems to be able to – although that theory will have to be hypothetical until Bobby does go. And I don’t foresee that happening any time soon

I was stewarding in the tunnel at Springfield, and in one match one of my colleagues said, fairly quietly, “Oh come on, Rogers”. At the time Deehan was under some, shall we say, pressure.

Deehan turned to us, and started a foul-mouthed rant how we needed to get behind the team, we were there for the club (technically incorrect, as stewards we were supposed to treat everyone equally) and so on and so forth.

When he had finished my colleague said “we’ll be here longer than you”.

He was right. :)

IMO we have not got the worst squad in the league so the problem must be the manager. Anyone who came in would do a better job than this clown, may be play 2 strikers in a 4-4-2 just try something new cause they couldn’t do worse.