Take a look at this article from the tossers at the post again – I read on here some while ago that the journalists doing tics reports now were more pro latics than some in the past – well if thats the case can someone who has contact please highlight this disgrace please.
This is a response i have fowarded to the b@stards
Your opening paragraph states in this article “A TEENAGED thug who killed a “good Samaritan” dad after a Wigan Athletic match”, which is always the paragraph that journalists use to grab the reader, and the one always remembered, it looks to everyone who bothered to look that it was a football related incident after a game at the DW stadium, when in fact the link with Wigan Athletic is extremely tenuous to say the least.
It took me less than 5 minutes on the internet to find a report in a Manchester newspaper with the full details of the brutal attack on Mr Garvey and I wonder why you choose to leave key elements of the case out of your report.
Can I please ask the Wigan Today Newspaper Group –
Why do you seem to always make links to any violence that you report on to Wigan Athletic ?
May I also ask why have you linked the name of Wigan Athletic with this particular crime?
The incident happened in Leigh, a different town to Wigan, the day after a football match had taken place in Wigan, the victim was also a Manchester United Fan, he just happened to go to watch a football match at the DW stadium between WAFC and MUFC the day before this thug took his life.
He quite possibly could have been shopping in Tesco or Asda the day before as well, but just as with Wigan Athletic it has no relevance to this disgraceful act of violence what so ever and you should be ashamed for bringing it into the same domain.
I feel very strongly about this gutter sniping at our club that has gone on for years and urge everybody to make it known to these people we are not going to put up with it any longer.
Couldn’t agree more, LMB. Absolute disgrace, that. As you say, the lad could have easily been in Tesco that day and it would have had as much relevance as mentioning Wigan Athletic.
I’ll use my contacts at the club to promote this, but quite how the girl who screams “HALF TIME DRAW!!!” at then south end of the west stand can help, I don’t really know
From the evidence before my eyes last season, someone else has already got on her.
Seriously, I suspect the club would already be on to this following LMB’s original post, even if they weren’t already on it. They are not as media menk as some might think they are.
Good shout LMB, these journalists get away with anything at times in order to try and make their stories more interesting.
In this case, its not the kind of story that needs sensationalising, just the bare facts would do. :naughty:
What if the poor blokes family and friends had turned vigilante against Latics fans thinking that they were to blame?? :x
Just to add to my first post – as i said i feel pretty strongly about how the post keep doing stuff like this so i reported the article to the press complaints council and i have just recieved this reply.
Dear Mr Loudmouthblue
Thank you for your email.
Your complaint will now be passed to the Commission with a view to it making a ruling under the Code. We aim to be in touch with you with a decision within the next 50 days (35 working days).
Complaints Officer Elizabeth Cobbe will now be dealing with this matter. Her email address is elizabeth.cobbe@pcc.org.uk and you should add her to your email safe list for further correspondence. Should you have any queries or require any further advice, please do not hesitate to contact her on 020 7831 0022.
A copy of the Code of Practice which all newspapers and magazines who subscribe adhere to, can be accessed using this web link: http://www.pcc.org.uk/cop/practice.html
I would like to set out a number of points about our procedures, for your information.
Speed: The Commission has a commitment to deal with all complaints as quickly as possible. It expects both complainants and newspapers – and their representatives, legal or otherwise – to cooperate with that commitment. Any unreasonable delay on either side may be taken into account by the Commission.
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Just to add to my first post – as i said i feel pretty strongly about how the post keep doing stuff like this so i reported the article to the press complaints council and i have just recieved this reply.
Dear Mr Loudmouthblue
Thank you for your email.
Your complaint will now be passed to the Commission with a view to it making a ruling under the Code. We aim to be in touch with you with a decision within the next 50 days (35 working days).
Complaints Officer Elizabeth Cobbe will now be dealing with this matter. Her email address is elizabeth.cobbe@pcc.org.uk and you should add her to your email safe list for further correspondence. Should you have any queries or require any further advice, please do not hesitate to contact her on 020 7831 0022.
A copy of the Code of Practice which all newspapers and magazines who subscribe adhere to, can be accessed using this web link: http://www.pcc.org.uk/cop/practice.html
I would like to set out a number of points about our procedures, for your information.
Speed: The Commission has a commitment to deal with all complaints as quickly as possible. It expects both complainants and newspapers – and their representatives, legal or otherwise – to cooperate with that commitment. Any unreasonable delay on either side may be taken into account by the Commission.
Transparency: As part of a full and fair investigation we must ensure that each party to a complaint is able to see and comment upon what the other has to say. The Commission cannot take into account information to which both sides have not had an opportunity to comment.
Confidentiality: The system of self regulation overseen by the PCC requires good faith on both sides. In order for the PCC to be able to investigate complaints effectively, it is essential that neither party to a complaint, complainant or newspaper/magazine, publishes information which has been provided as part of the investigation – most notably correspondence – without the consent of the other party. Publication, without consent, may affect the PCC’s ability to continue to deal with a complaint or may be considered by the PCC when it reaches a decision as to whether the Code has been breached. Material provided by both complainants and publications during a PCC investigation must only be used for the purpose of the complaint being considered by the PCC.
Commission rulings: It is possible that the Commission may find that your complaint does not amount to a breach of the Code, or that any remedial action taken or offered by the publication is sufficient under its terms. If this is the case we will explain to you why the Commission took this decision.
Correspondence with the editor: We will usually send a copy of each letter of complaint to the editor even if the complaint does not raise a breach of the Code. Similarly, any substantive decision made by the Commission under the terms of the Code will be sent to the editor.
Outside the Commission’s remit: The Commission is not able to deal with all complaints. Some of the circumstances in which we may not be able to pursue a complaint are set out on our website.
Legal proceedings: The Commission cannot deal with any complaint which is the subject of legal or other associated proceedings. You should let us know immediately if you decide to take legal action in regard to the matter under complaint.
Data Protection: By pursuing the complaint, you consent to the processing of any personal data which may be provided to the Commission for the purposes of dealing with your complaint. You also consent to the publication of the Commission’s decision in relation to the complaint, but may withdraw consent in writing.
Independent Reviewer: If, at the end of the process, you are dissatisfied with the manner in which your complaint has been handled, you should write within one month to the Independent Reviewer who will investigate the matter and report any findings and recommendations to the Commission. Further details are included in the enclosed How to Complain booklet, or via the following link: http://www.pcc.org.uk/about/whoswho/ind … eview.html
Further information about the complaints process can be accessed using this web link: http://www.pcc.org.uk/complaints/process.html